Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

A good portion of them are proto-homos, I'm certain they are gay but they haven't accepted it yet or if they are straight I do not understand what's going on with my fellow femoids.
I'm aquainted with a foid that has said something that was peculiar. She said something along the lines that most guys that take care of themselves today look like fags or hustlers and most men that don't take care of themselves look like slobs and molesters.

Is this a widely shared opinion?
 
I guess all is not lost. At least if I don't find a man on the app I'll have earned so many good laughs. Try it yourself!
Gurl, I've had the same thing happen! ...just fewer women fresh out of jail and more women wanting to be spoiled. A few years ago I saved a bunch of the most egregious profiles to send to friends. If we don't laugh we cry!
 
I'm aquainted with a foid that has said something that was peculiar. She said something along the lines that most guys that take care of themselves today look like fags or hustlers and most men that don't take care of themselves look like slobs and molesters.

Is this a widely shared opinion?
There's a middle ground between grooming obsessively and looking like a slob. Don't pluck your eyebrows with a ruler, but do shave your beard/keep it nice (if you choose to grow it). Don't style your hair with a blow dryer and hair products every morning, but do wash it and get a haircut on a regular basis. Don't always wear the latest styles, but do wear clothes that fit you and look new-ish without too many wrinkles.

I think a lot of young guys nowadays are taking style and grooming advice from influencer faggots online without realizing they're faggots. So they end up looking gay or mentally ill without intending to.
 
I'm aquainted with a foid that has said something that was peculiar. She said something along the lines that most guys that take care of themselves today look like fags or hustlers and most men that don't take care of themselves look like slobs and molesters.

Is this a widely shared opinion?
I have literally never heard anyone say this before. Your friend is very retarded unique.
 
I think a lot of young guys nowadays are taking style and grooming advice from influencer faggots online without realizing they're faggots. So they end up looking gay or mentally ill without intending to.
That's kind of a thing with a lot of guys. Those that care about appearance care about it a too much to the point they are willing to take advice from anyone. Those who don't would dress themselves even with curtains if it was socially acceptable.
 
Three quarters of the men I've come across are the same: they all look the same, they give all the same surface-level, NPC answers, the same kinds of pictures and "passions" (i.e. eating, drinking, travelling, going to the beach/gym/skiing). A good portion of them are proto-homos, I'm certain they are gay but they haven't accepted it yet or if they are straight I do not understand what's going on with my fellow femoids.
It's a combination of 1) most people being NPCs with little going on up there. 2) men optimizing their dating profile. Women complain about men with their fishing photos or being excited about their tibetian woven basket collection. So they look up what are good hobbies for dating apps and pick those.
 
I have literally never heard anyone say this before. Your friend is very retarded unique.
Your friend is falling for the same trap almost everyone does in the social media era; extremes of either case are displayed and discussed prominently, moderates aren't.

That's kind of a thing with a lot of guys. Those that care about appearance care about it a too much to the point they are willing to take advice from anyone. Those who don't would dress themselves even with curtains if it was socially acceptable.
Women like men who they can feel secure in but at the same time aren't disgusted by. A man who is so committed to his high maintenance appearance will never give a woman that sense of security; he will always be more concerned with his own looks than his woman's well-being and that is extremely unattractive.

Skakira Flabbergasted's advice is spot on. Be clean and dress appropriate but don't be overly concerned about your appearance. Don't be a faggot. The men of wö are won over by character not fashion.
 
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To be clear, I appreciate a man who takes care of himself and takes care of his appearance, however there must be a happy medium. I don't want a man who spends more time and money at the beautician's than I do, I don't like men who pull Clavicular-esque poses in every picture, I don't want to be with a man who stares at himself in every reflective surface or who trims his beard and eyebrows with a sharpie and a ruler.

Needless to say, the opposite is also true: a man who doesn't know that deodorants exist, who rolls out of bed in yesterday's clothes and doesn't grasp the concepts of a shower and brushing is teeth is anathema.

The bar is so low guys, it's unbelievable. I thought the average woman doesn't want a Patrick Bateman nor a CWC tranny, yet it seems I'm being proven wrong.
We'll see, in the meantime I'm having fun people-watching.
 
Sorry to continuously sperg about dating apps but I have a small but significant update: my god we are so fucked.

Three quarters of the men I've come across are the same: they all look the same, they give all the same surface-level, NPC answers, the same kinds of pictures and "passions" (i.e. eating, drinking, travelling, going to the beach/gym/skiing). A good portion of them are proto-homos, I'm certain they are gay but they haven't accepted it yet or if they are straight I do not understand what's going on with my fellow femoids.

I also came across a couple of guys who said they've just come out of jail (gave me a good chuckle tbh) and some men who I wouldn't be surprised to find out they suffocated their grandmas to steal their pensions.

And, of course, a good few men who had a watermelon emoji, who sperged about Israel and Palestine or against the right, or who claim to be anti-capitalist and yet use one of the biggest capitalist, multinational platforms to find a cunt to fuck.

BUT I have two positive notes. I found a small, very small, number of decent profiles and a new hobby: laughing at the ludicrous accounts I come across. Seriously, I had to physically stop myself from commenting every stupid thing they say, unfortunately it ain't a cyberbullying, New Zealand horticultural forum. 10 out of 10, will do again.

I guess all is not lost. At least if I don't find a man on the app I'll have earned so many good laughs. Try it yourself!
All the more reason for Josh to roll out KiwiDating
 
It's a combination of 1) most people being NPCs with little going on up there. 2) men optimizing their dating profile. Women complain about men with their fishing photos or being excited about their tibetian woven basket collection. So they look up what are good hobbies for dating apps and pick those.
If you like fishing and basket weaving but are "optimizing" to cast a wide net of people who find those things ridiculous, then you're optimizing for failure? Just be yourself simple as.
 
If you like fishing and basket weaving but are "optimizing" to cast a wide net of people who find those things ridiculous, then you're optimizing for failure? Just be yourself simple as.
I don't disagree. But maybe the basketweaving doesnt make for a good opener, but does work well once you sit down and talk. A lot of men feel hopeless and desperate. They tried being honest and upfront, but didn't get any matches. They look online what other people suggest. "Travel? Well, I've been to tibet to weave baskets before. I'll just say I like travel".
I saw a graph of someone who mapped out height of men on a dating app. It was a normal distribution, except there was a huge spike at 6 feet. Men found out women would filter on 6+ feet. So they adjusted. How they're going to fake 4 inches? no idea.
 
Apps are crap. I think back to pretty much everyone Ive been out with and only one or two were guys so good looking you’d have picked a photo of them out. But when you get to know someone you see more of them and that leads to attraction. And vice versa - I doubt I’d be someone a guy picks on looks, it I think I’m probably bearable in conversation. It’s no wonder everyone’s lonely. Nobody is getting to know potential partners in a situation that’s low pressure.
You’d do better with KiwiDating because at least you’ve been in a thread together sperging about rhe Roman Empire or something amd can gauge if someone’s got two brain cells to rub together
 
Sorry to continuously sperg about dating apps but I have a small but significant update: my god we are so fucked.

...

BUT I have two positive notes. I found a small, very small, number of decent profiles and a new hobby: laughing at the ludicrous accounts I come across. Seriously, I had to physically stop myself from commenting every stupid thing they say, unfortunately it ain't a cyberbullying, New Zealand horticultural forum. 10 out of 10, will do again.

I guess all is not lost. At least if I don't find a man on the app I'll have earned so many good laughs. Try it yourself!
What app did you end up picking?

Laughing at profiles definitely is a great way to pass time at least!

And @Otterly the closest you get to Kiwi dating is the OTP bingo thread.
 
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What app did you end up picking?
Hinge as it seems like the most "normal" one, I heard from friends that it's easier to find more people who want long-term relationships instead of one night stands.

I'm also banned from Tinder cause ages ago I was looking for a friend's boyfriend as we thought he was cheating on her. I used AI pics, I swiped left too many times, the app thought I was a bot and I couldn't verify I was human lol
 
Apps are crap
Nobody's first choice, or second, or third, is a dating app. If people have a choice, they prefer to meet someone at a leisure gathering, or hobby club, or school, or club, or pub, or even someone they woke up next to with no memory of last night, just anything other than a dating app. When you try dating apps, you're desperate enough to endure the misery of dating apps everyone tells you about. And you don't care about lying if that at least gets you a date.

Tinder worked at a point when it was new and a lot of regular joes and janes jumped in. But those paired off, so you're stuck with the dregs and the few normal people hoping they can swipe their way to the other normal person still there.
 
Apps are crap
I don't think it's possible to find someone I have a genuine connection with on an app, not because there's no good women on it, but the format just doesn't allow you to get to know each other. I also don't have any other options though, so I just have to hope I'm wrong and hit the lottery.
 
Hinge as it seems like the most "normal" one, I heard from friends that it's easier to find more people who want long-term relationships instead of one night stands.
I like Hinge because it has better prompts, lets you comment on a prompt or photo, is harder to accidentally swipe, lets you go back one profile if you didn't mean to, and will let you look at previously declined profiles if you run out. However, it kinda feels like you have to choose between showcasing your personality, your interests, or a fraction of both, and you have to pay to filter by anything other than age, distance, and gender. Locations are searched based on where you say you live, so you can travel and not be spammed by locals (or be distraught that a potential match lives so far away.)

Bumble is fine because it's easy to use (Tinder, but yellow), allows you to showcase your interests via bubbles under your first pic and personality via prompts, and can occasionally filter one or two traits for free. But, it is easy to swipe without realizing it, I'm pretty they have a couple bot accounts like you now and then to entice you to spend money to see who liked you, and once you say no to a profile you can never ever forever never see it again. Locations are searched based on where you are (you cannot use Bumble without turning on your phone's location tracking), so you can expand your search by searching profiles at work, friends'/family's places, etc.

Everything other than eHarmony is either crap or too niche to get a proper match.

Ironically, though, I've never gotten a relationship through Hinge (came close once, but it crashed and burned,) got two relationships out of Bumble, and one out of eHarmony.
I've tried speeddating a couple times as well. You only have a few minutes to interact, but at least you can glean a little bit about them compared to a couple pictures and text boxes. I've heard it can sometimes be a sausagefest, which is terrible for me but great for you!
You’d do better with KiwiDating because at least you’ve been in a thread together sperging about rhe Roman Empire or something amd can gauge if someone’s got two brain cells to rub together
This is why I've tried finding locations or groups to join where we have at least one common interest already. Effectively, the ice is already broken, taking away the hardest part of interacting with strangers. My only hang up is I keep meeting other dudes or women who are either already taken and/or have a 15+ year age difference than me. :lit:
 
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