DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[BoingBoingBoi]

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I don't think he realizes that paying bills and taxes is something every adult does.

just wait till he has serious health issues to pay for as well.

Prime example of why DSP doesn't need a dedicated group opposing him for people to troll him.
The next coming weeks will be proof positive that his own mouth and actions indeed produce more detractors than that former cadre ever did.

i hope you're right about that, and that SoK was a giant tism magnet whose influence on long-time observers of phil's dysfunction was actually quite minor. it remains to be seen though. i would like to think that not many who have kept up with phil on this thread, for example, longer than they've kept up with SoK would give a shit about SoK's meltdown. put differently, i don't think that SoK produced any phil detractors. they just produced SoK fans. this is just wishful thinking.

as far as direct positive things the SoK meltdown has generated, i'll make a few predictions:

1. tihydp might get better since people won't be just splicing together long stretches of dumb shit just for a shot at getting on a let's endure stream.
2. a massive, tangible source of trolling and harassment for phil has been disastrously erased, so he will not have anyone really to blame for his failures anymore. the common theme in all the videos from the ex-members is regret and shame, so it's unlikely that anyone would even want to play the role of trolling phil at that level anymore.
3. he'll hopefully get some sympathy shekels from this whole fiasco and survive a bit longer because of it. i hate the idea that phil will fail because of sok. that's giving them too much credit.

 

[RIP_SANITY]

just wait till he has serious health issues to pay for as well.



i hope you're right about that, and that SoK was a giant tism magnet whose influence on long-time observers of phil's dysfunction was actually quite minor. it remains to be seen though. i would like to think that not many who have kept up with phil on this thread, for example, longer than they've kept up with SoK would give a shit about SoK's meltdown. put differently, i don't think that SoK produced any phil detractors. they just produced SoK fans. this is just wishful thinking.

as far as direct positive things the SoK meltdown has generated, i'll make a few predictions:

1. tihydp might get better since people won't be just splicing together long stretches of dumb shit just for a shot at getting on a let's endure stream.
2. a massive, tangible source of trolling and harassment for phil has been disastrously erased, so he will not have anyone really to blame for his failures anymore. the common theme in all the videos from the ex-members is regret and shame, so it's unlikely that anyone would even want to play the role of trolling phil at that level anymore.
3. he'll hopefully get some sympathy shekels from this whole fiasco and survive a bit longer because of it. i hate the idea that phil will fail because of sok. that's giving them too much credit.

TBF, TIHYDPs being worse isn't just necessarily because of SOK, it's the editing style of each TIHYDP maker. Some prefer memes and a lot of editing (Doom 3) and others prefer less so (GTA SA)

Another thing I want to add is that there are 3 reasons why his modern playthroughs don't yield for amazing TIHYDPs as they used to:
1) his commentary being a lot more boring than it used to, lot more silences and far less cringeworthy jokes.
2) stream chat babysitting him, although it does have it's limits (refer to any fighting game or any skill based game) it still prevents moments like BUGGED JUMPING MECHANIC from occurring or just being stuck at the easiest of puzzles like in Portal 1. Even if he didn't use stream chat, he'd just use strategy guides (Banjo Kazooie for example)
3) games nowadays just being a lot easier in general, notice that DSP struggles when a game is just somewhat challenging like Scarface, or recently Sonic Adventure 2's ending. I would argue this last reason being the key one as to why his playthroughs aren't as unintentionally hilarious as they used to (barring exceptions here and there, obviously)

 

[BrunoMattei]

TBF, TIHYDPs being worse isn't just necessarily because of SOK, it's the editing style of each TIHYDP maker. Some prefer memes and a lot of editing (Doom 3) and others prefer less so (GTA SA)

Having made a few myself, shameless plug:

I would agree. The worst thing a DON'T Play video can be is boring and a lot of Phil's recent stuff is just that. Boring as fuck.

 

[Dewey Manlove]

Prime example of why DSP doesn't need a dedicated group opposing him for people to troll him.
The next coming weeks will be proof positive that his own mouth and actions indeed produce more detractors than that former cadre ever did.

At about 10:30 the dislike percent of the newest batch of 20 Ultra Street Fighter 2 videos was 84% (90 like/482 dislike). It may not hurt him directly, but it is a tangible sign that there are detractors out there. I expect the thumbs up/down to be hidden next.


ETA: The last video he uploads in a batch always has the most dislikes (133 in this case), so there are more than a handful of people downvoting. I'm assuming that only the true OCD autistic-detractors feel compelled to give a thumbs down to every video.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

TBF, TIHYDPs being worse isn't just necessarily because of SOK, it's the editing style of each TIHYDP maker. Some prefer memes and a lot of editing (Doom 3) and others prefer less so (GTA SA)

Another thing I want to add is that there are 3 reasons why his modern playthroughs don't yield for amazing TIHYDPs as they used to:
1) his commentary being a lot more boring than it used to, lot more silences and far less cringeworthy jokes.
2) stream chat babysitting him, although it does have it's limits (refer to any fighting game or any skill based game) it still prevents moments like BUGGED JUMPING MECHANIC from occurring or just being stuck at the easiest of puzzles like in Portal 1. Even if he didn't use stream chat, he'd just use strategy guides (Banjo Kazooie for example)
3) games nowadays just being a lot easier in general, notice that DSP struggles when a game is just somewhat challenging like Scarface, or recently Sonic Adventure 2's ending. I would argue this last reason being the key one as to why his playthroughs aren't as unintentionally hilarious as they used to (barring exceptions here and there, obviously)

i'd add 2 more things to the list. the first is just that there are so many times where the jokes and cringe seems so forced and he's not into it. there's got to be a sizeable portion of his mind even in the heat of a game that's having an existential crisis, worrying miserably about his health and life choices, his loneliness, debt, etc. lots of it comes off more as an act than it used to especially since leanna has been gone.

another thing is the positivity. who would have thought the king of hate now wants to suddenly become the king of positivity and fun? i doubt even phil's true fans want to watch him enjoy and breeze through a game rather than rage endlessly.

the sad truth is that he's aging, mellowing out, coming to grips with reality, and perhaps even getting a bit wiser, though it means he will need to hold onto what should have only been a part time or at least short term hobby of his for as long as he can. he is no longer dsp. he is an old man trying to be dsp.

Having made a few myself, shameless plug:

I would agree. The worst thing a DON'T Play video can be is boring and a lot of Phil's recent stuff is just that. Boring as fuck.

i should have said things differently. what i meant was that one kind of tihydp made for let's endure would probably disappear. but again nobody would care about that unless they cared about SoK to begin with, so moot point. there i go giving SoK more credit than they're due!

another thing that will make future tihydp less interesting is if phil nerfs the comments on his videos.

 

[Xerxes IX]

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At about 10:30 the dislike percent of the newest batch of 20 Ultra Street Fighter 2 videos was 84% (90 like/482 dislike). It may not hurt him directly, but it is a tangible sign that there are detractors out there. I expect the thumbs up/down to be hidden next.

And after that another IF MY VIEWS ARE FINE WHY IS THE MONEY DOWN? video because he still doesn't know that Youtube revenue is based on engagement.

 

[PL 879]

just wait till he has serious health issues to pay for as well.
i hope you're right about that, and that SoK was a giant tism magnet whose influence on long-time observers of phil's dysfunction was actually quite minor. it remains to be seen though. i would like to think that not many who have kept up with phil on this thread, for example, longer than they've kept up with SoK would give a shit about SoK's meltdown. put differently, i don't think that SoK produced any phil detractors. they just produced SoK fans. this is just wishful thinking.
as far as direct positive things the SoK meltdown has generated, i'll make a few predictions:

1. tihydp might get better since people won't be just splicing together long stretches of dumb shit just for a shot at getting on a let's endure stream.
2. a massive, tangible source of trolling and harassment for phil has been disastrously erased, so he will not have anyone really to blame for his failures anymore. the common theme in all the videos from the ex-members is regret and shame, so it's unlikely that anyone would even want to play the role of trolling phil at that level anymore.
3. he'll hopefully get some sympathy shekels from this whole fiasco and survive a bit longer because of it. i hate the idea that phil will fail because of sok. that's giving them too much credit.

Things are going to get quite interesting in the DSP sphere the next few months. There are going to be new detractors rising up as prominent voices where before they would have been punched down and told to get back in their place. Those from before will need to prove themselves as being humorous or insightful based on their own merits rather than who they are associated with.
This is a changing of the guard, and it will take Phil by surprise because I am confident the trolling will just be based on laughing at and getting a rise out of him instead actively attempting to purge him off the Internet.
Good times being on the way is my prediction.

 

[JackDavis]

put differently, i don't think that SoK produced any phil detractors. they just produced SoK fans. this is just wishful thinking.

I can only speak for myself, but the OG DSPCultLeader definitely had a huge influence on me becoming a detractor. I remember seeing his videos spammed in the comment section of DSP's videos and ended up watching all of them. I used to be neutral on Phil, he wasn't the nicest person in the world but it didn't bother me. Then I watched DSPCultLeader's stuff and it really got me to thinking about Phil in a different way, and seeing how terrible and annoying he really was.

 

[Freshtodeath]

Here's what I got from the video. He's blaming the titles of the videos for demonetization rather than his commentary.

I think the most telling thing for him is a lot of his old videos are getting flagged. If for some reason his old videos are a large source of revenue he might be in trouble.

 

[Dewey Manlove]

And after that another IF MY VIEWS ARE FINE WHY IS THE MONEY DOWN? video because he still doesn't know that Youtube revenue is based on engagement.

He says that the addition of "engagement" to the search algorithm in 2012-2013 was the worst thing to ever happen to his business. His reaction to the change was to say "they (YouTube/Google) are fucking stupid and they don't understand basic math" and to make no changes to what he has always done.

Breathtakingly stupid and endlessly entertaining as always.

 

[Quan_Chi]

And after that another IF MY VIEWS ARE FINE WHY IS THE MONEY DOWN? video because he still doesn't know that Youtube revenue is based on engagement.

Also you forgot, during the machinima fallout, he was always stating this is a fact: "YouTube and everybody is telling me I am doing everything fine but yet viewership is down and my money is down. So I don't know what is going on??"

Who is this 'everybody' and who was this supposed person from YouTube telling Phil 'you're perfect, don't change'?

 

[ProdigalDuke]

Phil needs to get back on the gin ASAP. As someone else pointed out, the TIHYDPs are suffering due to his boring as fuck commentary. It's the only way I can really digest Phil's content. The fighting games and multiplayer stuff sometimes brings out some of that classic manbaby bitch attitude, but it's wedged between all the begging and self pity. When he was on the booze he really let loose all the rage and the cringe. Now he's gotta act DSProfessional because he's a "mature, intelligent, logical adult". Feels like we're diving for the little corn nuggets in a giant ocean of shit.

 

[neger psykolog]

He says that the addition of "engagement" to the search algorithm in 2012-2013 was the worst thing to ever happen to his business. His reaction to the change was to say "they (YouTube/Google) are fucking idiots who don't understand basic math" and to make no changes to what he has always done.

Breathtakingly stupid and endlessly entertaining as always.

It's also great because he never seems to try and make his own interaction. Interaction is really just another way of saying engagement, but it's vitally important to increasing viewer interest.

He doesn't read his twitch chat whatsoever
He doesn't engage with his subscribers
He doesn't do any real competitions (and no, that doesn't mean he has to send out gold bars in the mail to people, he could just have an award for someone who beats him at some game, or they get a free shoutout, or their name on the stream for a week)
He doesn't invite people to challenge him in games.
He doesn't play any multiplayer games publicly (except streetfighter which doesn't count)
He doesn't play multiplayer with voice (except Destiny 2 recently with his coop buddies, but that's a poor example)

He generally plays single player games. By himself.

Most people seem to join for his prestream, hoping to catch some :autism:, and then when he actually plays games people tune out.

I'm not ever sure how boring someone has to be to have a boring time on the internet. It's an open box of adventure and excitement (as much as can be provided in the comfort of your own home), but Phil doesn't seem to understand the real nature of it.

He's pretty much a good go-to example of explaining what being too comfortable in your comfort zone is. You can even time his streams down to a tee. I haven't yet witnessed him just turn on his stream out of schedule and say "hey I'm gonna play this random game for fun!".

When you fail to interact with your audience, then you can only really expect minimal engagement.

Phil, Phil never changes.

 

[Freshtodeath]

Phil needs to get back on the gin ASAP. As someone else pointed out, the TIHYDPs are suffering due to his boring as fuck commentary. It's the only way I can really digest Phil's content. The fighting games and multiplayer stuff sometimes brings out some of that classic manbaby bitch attitude, but it's wedged between all the begging and self pity. When he was on the booze he really let loose all the rage and the cringe. Now he's gotta act DSProfessional because he's a "mature, intelligent, logical adult". Feels like we're diving for the little corn nuggets in a giant ocean of shit.

this! its not like he isn't still a manbaby asshole, he still is he just hides it in his commentary. The new PC phil is boring.

You know what would really get him views? fly out John Rambo for some co op. Make up with John, promise him some revenue and do some Co op streams. The views and attention on that stream would be astronomical. Phil is too petty though he will never do that.

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

I should have said things differently. what i meant was that one kind of tihydp made for let's endure would probably disappear. but again nobody would care about that unless they cared about SoK to begin with, so moot point. there i go giving SoK more credit than they're due!

another thing that will make future tihydp less interesting is if phil nerfs the comments on his videos.

Lets endure were pretty bad IMO,they had the video sound lower than their microphone so you cloud hear them talk loud and clear,but you cloud barely hear what Phil was saying. I only watched 2 or 3 videos and only for a few minutes because the video was about them and not Phil.

They have their microphones set up so you cloud hear them and not the TIHYDP,and also sometimes they started talking while Phil was saying something instead of pausing the video.

What im trying to say is that the SOK faggots wanted things to revolve around themselves,I preffer the mister metokur streams,short and concise commentary ,also he paused the video or muted it when he had to say something that was too long. Mister Metokur made his streams about Phil,the SOK made it about themselves because they are a bunch of nobodies trying to gain some popularity off Phil.

 

[Um Oh Ah Yeah]

another thing is the positivity. who would have thought the king of hate now wants to suddenly become the king of positivity and fun? i doubt even phil's true fans want to watch him enjoy and breeze through a game rather than rage endlessly.

"I'm just going to move forward positively" he says, slack-jawed, his face a mask of sadness and shame.

 

[JackDavis]

He says that the addition of "engagement" to the search algorithm in 2012-2013 was the worst thing to ever happen to his business.

Engagements keep fucking over Phil.

 

[Quan_Chi]

Here's what I got from the video. He's blaming the titles of the videos for demonetization rather than his commentary.

I think the most telling thing for him is a lot of his old videos are getting flagged. If for some reason his old videos are a large source of revenue he might be in trouble.

His old videos are his source of revenue. His new videos draw dick In views compared to his old shit; his Destiny 2 day 1 video got a measly 1000 views and the rest were even more pathetic. That's why he is always looking for reasons to quit games and why he blames the games themselves for his predicament. Not his attitude and viewpoint of his audience... Nah that's not it.

 

[Xenomorph]

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I don't think he realizes that paying bills and taxes is something every adult does.

Yeah we all have to do it. It sucks that we do but that's the way the world is. You can huff and puff about it but it wont change that the only two certain things in this world are death and taxes.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

Lets endure were pretty bad IMO,they had the video sound lower than their microphone so you cloud hear them talk loud and clear,but you cloud barely hear what Phil was saying. I only watched 2 or 3 videos and only for a few minutes because the video was about them and not Phil.

They have their microphones set up so you cloud hear them and not the TIHYDP,and also sometimes they started talking while Phil was saying something instead of pausing the video.

What im trying to say is that the SOK faggots wanted things to revolver around themselves,I preffer the mister metokur streams,short and concise commentary ,also he paused the video or muted it when he had to say something that was too long. Mister Metokur made his streams about Phil,the SOK made it about themselves because they are a bunch of nobodies trying to gain some popularity off Phil.

that's a good comparison i hesitated to make to keep the topic on phil but yeah i watch jim's old streams on occasion because i like watching jim shit on phil. i never felt that way about SoK. don't really care about what any of them have to say---whether they pause to say it or not. i'd rather watch phil stream, a tihydp, or a king of hate vlahg any day---get it straight from the horse's asshole no filter, no interruptions.

It's also great because he never seems to try and make his own interaction. Interaction is really just another way of saying engagement, but it's vitally important to increasing viewer interest.

He doesn't read his twitch chat whatsoever
He doesn't engage with his subscribers
He doesn't do any real competitions (and no, that doesn't mean he has to send out gold bars in the mail to people, he could just have an award for someone who beats him at some game, or they get a free shoutout, or their name on the stream for a week)
He doesn't invite people to challenge him in games.
He doesn't play any multiplayer games publicly (except streetfighter which doesn't count)
He doesn't play multiplayer with voice (except Destiny 2 recently with his coop buddies, but that's a poor example)

He generally plays single player games. By himself.

Most people seem to join for his prestream, hoping to catch some :autism:, and then when he actually plays games people tune out.

I'm not ever sure how boring someone has to be to have a boring time on the internet. It's an open box of adventure and excitement (as much as can be provided in the comfort of your own home), but Phil doesn't seem to understand the real nature of it.

He's pretty much a good go-to example of explaining what being too comfortable in your comfort zone is. You can even time his streams down to a tee. I haven't yet witnessed him just turn on his stream out of schedule and say "hey I'm gonna play this random game for fun!".

When you fail to interact with your audience, then you can only really expect minimal engagement.

Phil, Phil never changes.

he needs to turn back the clock and have his life not be in shambles distracting himself from emotionally investing in and fully raging at games like he used to when his testosterone levels were higher. trying but failing to be professional w/ his streams has been great so far but the problem is now he's doing exactly that and it's getting a bit stale as he becomes an old man giving youtube analysis videos instead of smashing controllers.