Communists - That time when 100 million people died wasn't REAL communism, comrade

[AnOminous]

Most importantly, the people who want the revolution to happen aren't even workers.

There is no revolution without workers.

Without workers, the word for it is "tantrum."

 

[FromaCorvairSix]

The Worker's Revolution that they want to happen in the United States would be good as they would be the first ones gunned down by rednecks who would be leading the Revolution (who do you think are the oppressed ones in the USA class-wise?).

I went to college with trust fund commies. As a result, I own an AR-15, a Mini 14 and a few compact handguns. Rednecks would never be part of a Marxist revolution because they still believe in the concept of property and self sufficiency.

 

[K-7]

I heard about that from a friend, so here it is:

Fully automated luxury communism is a thing, more like a lefty meme some take seriously.

It's also quite funny to see them use the same kind of retro imagery the alt-right and other far-right groups use.

 

[what]

What does Anarcho-Communism even mean? I'm genuinely curious. I've always thought anarchy fights against the power and order, whereas communism strongly supports strict control by using fear and discouraging individuality.

Does that mean that being an Anarcho-Communist is one's desire to live in an oppressive society just to have a cause to fight for? Is this why they truly love communism so much? Because they don't think they're actually oppressed enough in the current state of the government and they're so mentally immature that they have a desire to rebel but no real reason to?

I don't understand any of this.

 

[Mysterious Capitalist]

Fully automated luxury communism is a thing

I thought that was a drug induced term that Elizabeth Waite made up in their(?) suicide note. Did it actually exist before then?

 

[K-7]

I thought that was a drug induced term that Elizabeth Waite made up in their(?) suicide note. Did it actually exist before then?

The KYM page about it dates back from May/June. The term was coined by a certain Aaron Bastani in Nov. 2014, there's also a Guardian article about the subject dating from March 2015.

Here's a T-shirt on sale (oh the fucking irony, no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism unless it can show your affiliations in the political landscape) on Amazon:

 

[Joel Tarkus]

Personally, I don't care, because someone always is going to be exploited, even in communist "utopia" (and I'm using this word very lightly).

Well said, and that word should definitely be taken with grain of salt. Utopia is just completely impossible, allow me to make that clear. Someone is always under some sort of oppression. Even in this whole feminist ideology that supposedly aims to reduce the amount of oppression in the world, does so by oppressing straight white males. It is just human nature, we just need someone to demonize or look down upon.

 

[unclestryker]

How much you want to bet that this was posted on a Iphone.

Best description of socialism I ever seen.

 

[Surtur]

What does Anarcho-Communism even mean? I'm genuinely curious. I've always thought anarchy fights against the power and order, whereas communism strongly supports strict control by using fear and discouraging individuality.

Does that mean that being an Anarcho-Communist is one's desire to live in an oppressive society just to have a cause to fight for? Is this why they truly love communism so much? Because they don't think they're actually oppressed enough in the current state of the government and they're so mentally immature that they have a desire to rebel but no real reason to?

I don't understand any of this.

Communism is split into multiple ideologies, most of the people on this forum seem to think its one big thing when anyone on the left knows about the drama that goes down between Marxist-Leninist's and AnComs, and those aren't the only two groups.

 

[escapegoat]

...that fully automated thing is a joke meme. I know it's hard to believe, but the left memes, too.

 

[ICametoLurk]

...that fully automated thing is a joke meme.

There are people who take it seriously and put their faith in that one day it will become reality.

 

[Tennis Monkey]

What does Anarcho-Communism even mean? I'm genuinely curious. I've always thought anarchy fights against the power and order, whereas communism strongly supports strict control by using fear and discouraging individuality.

You're right, and that is the obvious criticism of anarcho-communism. It's having your cake and eating it. You abolish the state but smuggle it back in and call it a workers' council or something. It is kind of the reigning orthodoxy of anarchism nowadays, though.

Alexander Berkman, who was a famous Russian/American anarchist in the early 20th century, described it this way:-

The meaning of communist anarchism is this: the abolition of government, of coercive authority and all its agencies and joint ownership - which means free and equal participation in the general work and welfare.

The problem is that what you have to do to secure the last point kind of undermines the first two.

 

[MG 192]

In the nearly 100 years since its first inception in Soviet Union, communism has not once succeeded. Every nation has either collapsed (Soviet Union being the biggest), dropped the system in favor of a more capitalistic economy (East Germany when it reunited with West Germany, China), or are failing miserably (North Korea, Cuba). The few remaining "communist" nations either had to open up to have a functional economy or otherwise have its residences live in hell.

Communism was a failed experiment. I suspect that within our lifetime, there will be no more Communists nations. North Korea is due to fall at any point.

Oh and lol faggots supporting Communism. Only LGBT support for Islam matches it in exceptionalism.

 

[ICametoLurk]

 

[Trilby]

Wish we were doing this!

 

[Johnny Bravo]

I think humans as a species are just incompatible with large scale communism.

 

[Trilby]

I think humans as a species are just incompatible with large scale communism.

We are not bees!

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Meh

I think Communism or more specifically "to each according to need, from each according to ability" is mankind's future.

Like faaaaaaaaaaaaar future; as in Star Trek space opera future where scarcity just isn't a issue anymore. After everyone has as much as they want of anything hopefully we can get past the materialistic competition that drives us and move onto a more co-operative society based on personals drives and community goals.

So yah...like in 10,000 years at the rate our species is maturing.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Meh

I think Communism or more specifically "to each according to need, from each according to ability" is mankind's future.

Like faaaaaaaaaaaaar future; as in Star Trek space opera future where scarcity just isn't a issue anymore. After everyone has as much as they want of anything hopefully we can get past the materialistic competition that drives us and move onto a more co-operative society based on personals drives and community goals.

So yah...like in 10,000 years at the rate our species is maturing.

Star Trek managed to eliminate poverty with two inventions.

One was the invention of cheap, or even free, readily available energy.

The second was the matter replicator. People could just replicate everything they needed.

Once that is in place, it's more likely that could be reality.

 

[Techpriest]

Star Trek managed to eliminate poverty with two inventions.

One was the invention of cheap, or even free, readily available energy.

The second was the matter replicator. People could just replicate everything they needed.

Once that is in place, it's more likely that could be reality.

Basically we need advanced space communism for communism to work. Posadism wins again!

Also a basic chart. Flawed, but a good starter on the names of various sub-sections of communist thought and thinkers. Plus it features our good friend ADF.