Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Another day, another journalist conspiring to commit violence against someone with an opinion he doesn't like. Or rather, autists jacking each other off over political violence fan fiction, because while they love the idea of violence happening to their enemies, I seriously doubt they'd ever carry it out themselves.

In Daryll Ayo news, he's tweeting out long-ass threads about how he's being harassed and paraphrases messages Ethan van Sciver allegedly sent him, but I've yet to see a screenshot that would take him 10 seconds to produce and would actually make any of this even slightly believable. Maybe he likes playing with a handicap.
 
Ethan van Scriver is such a weird guy, it's odd to see him be the level headed and reasonable one these days.

Shit's proving hard to locate now, because the Jinxworld forums are dead and gone, but he got into a huge slap fight with Gail Simone back in, like, 2011 about how Joe McCarthy got a raw deal, and needs to be looked at in the proper context, and never accused anybody who didn't do something wrong.

Which just isn't true, even if you hate commies like I do.

Guy really likes Joe McCarthy, and will defend him to the world's end. He's got a collection of the man's autographs and everything.

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I'll have all of you know that Stan Lee only took credit for allegedly sexually harassing those women and it was actually Jack Kirby who did it.

You're an absolute fucking savage. :story:
Kirby was no doubt talented, but at the wrong time. If he were alive today, he'd have the #1 Patreon with six figures monthly and get crowdfunded on any crazy-ass cosmic thing he wanted to dabble in. Unfortunately he got into a business he was pretty bad at negotiating in, and ping-ponging back and forth between Marvel and DC did him zero favors in an environment where you pick a side and accumulate jewish copyrights and quasi-religious fan support.
Stan played it safe. He's a good writer, and marketed himself well under the Marvel unbrella and stuck with the brand all the way, even when it was looking really shaky in the 80's and 90's and the brand got bought out. I still remember Stan's weird intros on those Iron Man or Avengers cartoons, praising viewers for being "True Believers" and thanking them for watching, encouraging a return visit next Saturday morning. I had no clue who Kirby was and didn't really appreciate his genius until well into my 30's.

It's a situation that'd be very easy for Disney to fix, even just not to waste money. Digital sales are a thing so they might get more into webcomic style marketing. Most of the cost revolves around printing in color (that's why they cost so much and have so few pages compared to greyscale mangas with 5 times the amount of pages); digital keeps off that burden, and if some comics get popular enough they might get printed. Digital comics is a very small business but it's alive and well. Why kill it when you can get a few bucks, and even more material for your movies

Marvel already does this with a phone/tablet/desktop app that shares your comic library between devices. When you buy a new comic, there's a tear-away tab in the middle of the book on an add-page for the app that has a code underneath, the code is good for 1 calendar year to redeem the physical comic to also appear in your digital collection forever. Also you could just buy only digital, maybe some special like Notch just clicks BUY on every issue just to fill their collection out easily, who knows.

Marvel also does a subscription service to access their old stuff, basically the 2000's backwards; anything that would be in the black-and-white collections or Kirby-era stuff.

Marvel experimented with interactive, semi-animated digital comics, but they were a flop. I was thoroughly unimpressed with them. Also one was by Dan Slott, so I'm sure that didn't help either.
 
Diversity and comics is such a weird fellow to the point where I just call this a shit show, I watched him pre-twitter and it felt like he was a very functional human being with a life that isnt too bothered to just sit all day and stock peoples twitter so he can quote a snarky comment and lead them into a shitstorm, sjwism in comics is a problem but I cant condone such a-logging. Twitter really does ruin people.

Also who told you that a comic book costs more than a volume,
a DC comic costs 2.99 and a Marvel costs 3.99
a standard one piece volume costs 9.99$ and is about only 180 pages, dont get me wrong there is disparity but Mangas dont come out in a single issue format so comparing them comic issues to volumes is kinda retarded, a single issue digital chapter costs 0.99 to buy on viz. this would mean the length of the standard comic (30-40 pages really) is 2 average weekly manga chapters the disparity is only 1 dollar when we compare digital to print.

I want to take the side of the anti-sjws but they are really cringey and bad in their own way, this is a loss-loss situation for me and I only really support Ethan who draws for DC and stood up against SJWism in comics. I dont care about john wick meets inception man D&C.
 
TL;DR

Rainbow haired butt pirates don't like "Green Lantern" artist Ethan Van Sciver because he is a Mormon and Republican (but manages to leave his politics out of comics - funny how hard that is!). So even though there is zero proof of him harassing anyone or being a Nazi, these panty sniffers are libelling him all over Twitter. Since this isn't having the desired effect of getting DC Comics to fire EVS, they're escalating it by fashioning a hit piece in "The Atlantic". The writer did the bare minimum of contacting EVS for his side of the story, then "coincidentally" ends up blocking Ethan before he can tell his version of events.
 
Kinda hard when he is the center figure of comicsgate, and again I used to like the guy I think his twitter is ruining him tho.
You said you liked EVS, so focus on him. Focus on other industry pros you like, or don't like. Talk about other youtubers, or comics journalists. There are so many other people involved in this, besides D&C.
 
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Diversity and comics is such a weird fellow to the point where I just call this a shit show, I watched him pre-twitter and it felt like he was a very functional human being with a life that isnt too bothered to just sit all day and stock peoples twitter so he can quote a snarky comment and lead them into a shitstorm, sjwism in comics is a problem but I cant condone such a-logging. Twitter really does ruin people.

Also who told you that a comic book costs more than a volume,
a DC comic costs 2.99 and a Marvel costs 3.99
a standard one piece volume costs 9.99$ and is about only 180 pages, dont get me wrong there is disparity but Mangas dont come out in a single issue format so comparing them comic issues to volumes is kinda exceptional, a single issue digital chapter costs 0.99 to buy on viz. this would mean the length of the standard comic (30-40 pages really) is 2 average weekly manga chapters the disparity is only 1 dollar when we compare digital to print.

I want to take the side of the anti-sjws but they are really cringey and bad in their own way, this is a loss-loss situation for me and I only really support Ethan who draws for DC and stood up against SJWism in comics. I dont care about john wick meets inception man D&C.

This is normal. Even under the best of circumstances in one of these enforced culture war environments, the constant pressures from the outrage politics crowd do take their toll after a while, and everyone adjusts differently. Some of them get more hardline, otherwise try to find ways to avoid broaching the subject. Others go full retard like William Usher and become what they hate. Give 'em time, and maybe a few positive nudges to try to encourage them back on course, and the ones that aren't complete fucking morons will eventually even out.

Learn from the Autism Holy War: Just because you favor one side over the other doesn't mean you don't acknowledge that the side you're supporting has speds in it. All things being equal, all such cases of factionalization will have speds in it on both sides. This is normal too. The big thing to remember is the greatest advantage that the Anti-Identity Politics crowd has - which is the ability to openly recognize and be aware of your own side being stupid and willing to give a few of them their lumps.

In fact, that's a major advantage that any Anti-SJW side has: That it at least has people willing to call its spergs on their bad behavior if they step over the line. The Pro-SJW does not have this, and you should make a point of abusing this at every opportunity. Don't let the Autism get to you too much, and don't let yourself get too distracted by the nonsense; there's plenty to go around.
 
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Kinda hard when he is the center figure of comicsgate, and again I used to like the guy I think his twitter is ruining him tho.

The biggest strategic asset diversity and comics/comicgate has is big shots in marvel keep bitching about him/them and embarissing themselves while he remains totally calm and churns out vids. The minute that dries up he becomes a fairly affable conservative youtuber and nothing more. It's like picking a scab really.

Funny I saying exactly the same thing about Gamergate to an sjw I know a few years back.
 
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The biggest strategic asset diversity and comics/comicgate has is big shots in marvel keep bitching about him/them and embarissing themselves while he remains totally calm and churns out vids.

What has he even said that is so offensive other than that certain Marvel titles were absolute shit? They were objectively shit, as nobody bought them, they sat on shelves collecting dust, and even Marvel had to give up on them and cancel them for being shit. I get that they're mad they're out of jobs now, but they should have tried sucking less instead of screeching all day on social media.

The titles are canceled because they sucked, not because of anything anyone said on social media, which was just a natural result of trying to force shitty, low quality media on people who didn't want to buy it.
 
The biggest strategic asset diversity and comics/comicgate has is big shots in marvel keep bitching about him/them and embarissing themselves while he remains totally calm and churns out vids. The minute that dries up he becomes a fairly affable conservative youtuber and nothing more. It's like picking a scab really.

Funny I saying exactly the same thing about Gamergate to an sjw I know a few years back.


this isn't like GG because it isn't fucking cancer yet. The problem I have with D&C isn't that people are targeting him and he is responding to that shit, that's fine. But the man is kinda spending all of his day quoting guys on twitter just to get a reaction from them. For example some random ass SJWs like Kwanza who did to be fair try to pick a fight with D&C 1st so its somewhat justified, but retards like Darryl who really do just get trolled by D&C (using snide remarks and the such by quote twit spam), is concerning behavior for me. Also whilst trolling is fine its a slippery slope to engage with on twitter and I just don't want to see D&Cs or anyone's private time devoted to that shit(seems kinda petty).

My nigga nerkish should be the face of comics gate.

Edit:Tried to salvage this as best as I could without rewriting everything.
 
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this isnt like GG because it isnt fucking cancer yet, the problem I have isnt that people are targetting him that shit is fine, the mans kinda spends his day quoting guys on twitter just to get a reaction (some random ass sjws like kwanza who was tbf a massive cancer and talked shit behind his back so its somewhat or darryl whos just an exceptional individual d&c likes to troll and make snarky remarks on) is kinda concerning for me, trolling is fine but its a slippery slope on twitter and I just dont want to see someones entire life devoted to that shit.

My nigga nerkish should be the face of comics gate
I'm not usually the grammar police, but holy shit nigga, you need to break up this run-on.
 
What has he even said that is so offensive other than that certain Marvel titles were absolute shit? They were objectively shit, as nobody bought them, they sat on shelves collecting dust, and even Marvel had to give up on them and cancel them for being shit. I get that they're mad they're out of jobs now, but they should have tried sucking less instead of screeching all day on social media.
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Some People have a habit of ignoring complex difficult issues for an easy 'fix', SJW's are partially a product of that-why consider economics, geopololitical stability and the continious poverty when you can bitch about marvels hero lineup being tailored to white middle class nerds? The instinct is actually pretty common through history, you don't know where to start with an apparantly insurmountable problem so find a total non-issue and 'fix' that as the kingdom crumbles. It's why all those theological/sectarian/moral panics look retarded with hindsight
 
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The biggest strategic asset diversity and comics/comicgate has is big shots in marvel keep bitching about him/them and embarissing themselves while he remains totally calm and churns out vids. The minute that dries up he becomes a fairly affable conservative youtuber and nothing more. It's like picking a scab really.

Funny I saying exactly the same thing about Gamergate to an sjw I know a few years back.

There's an interesting quirk about that: They literally never learn.

Why is this interesting? Because many of the same asshats that are now sperging about evil comics nerds ruining everything and destroying diversity and inclusion in comics are the exact same people who sperged endlessly about Gamergate in the exact same fucking fashion:

As ever, read these bottom to top.
Snarky comments in Red to keep me from drinking myself to death during this whole shebang:

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Without exception, Dan Slott is the most visible of the GG/CG crossover spergs. He literally has been shrieking about GG since it began, and used the exact same fucking tactics then that he uses now. As I pointed out, he's also a long-time associate of Brianna Wu, because of course he is. Even when he got caught trying to use this for political angling, he usually responded by blocking critics. Really, not a whole lot has changed with the guy.

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Alex de Campi also sperged out about it, and while less of a non-stop spergathalon than Dan Slott, nonetheless posted a link to this fucking thing by Harris O'Malley. I'm not gonna say much about it; if you've read one self-important Anti-GG "Gamergate is nothing but harassment and is ruining everything hard-working progressives have strived to build" article that came out after the Autism Holy War ended, you've read them all.

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Veterans of Gail Simone's spergouts might be familiar with Darrylayo, a blogger who Simone constantly pimps the articles of. He too has had some fantastic meltdowns to rival Dan Slott's own. His career path appears to be trying to transform himself into a black version of Matt Myers that also screams about race politics. Fittingly, he's signal booted Quinn's shit repeatedly and backed up Sarah Nyberg when she took on GG's companion #NotYourShield hashtag. That last one actually deserves special recognition, because he genuinely thinks minority and female supporters of Gamergate did not exist. Don't worry though, he has ample crazy outside of GG; he thinks ANTIFA's violence was completely justified. And a militant BLM supporter.

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Aubrey Sitterson, the SJW who managed to get himself fired for fucking up a GI Joe comic to the point where it sold under 4000 issues with its #1, is probably my favorite. He signal boosted Anti-GG talking points when it began, only to never discuss Gamergate again until he was fired, at which point the hashtag (which had been dead for three years) was now responsible for his firing.... Somehow.

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David Walker can probably be considered the first one of the usual suspects in Comicsgate trying to chain it to GG. With the help of Virtuous Pedophile-defending Salon.com, of course.

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Even comparative SJW Comics Pros like Stephanie Cooke got a few shots in.

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Magdalene Visaggio believes Gamergate did 11/9. She's also a follower of Brianna Wu, and supporter of and contributor towards Trans Lifeline.

These are just a few examples of literally fucking hundreds if you go looking for them.
The point I'm making with gathering all this crap, however, is this:

Almost all of these dipshits were completely aware of GG happening when it started, if they weren't flat-out supporting Anti-GG when it was going down (as Dan Slott, and Magdalene Visaggio did) and were there when it ended. Think about that for a second.

All these motherfuckers who are now claiming that the nerds are ruining everything in a desperate attempt to shame them into inaction were right fucking there when their buddies did this same fucking thing to no avail. I know we make a lot of jokes about these people being Autistic, and I'm sure there's some wisdom in that, but this crap tends to always make the old definition of insanity come readily to mind.

It's like none of these people learned pattern recognition in elementary school.
 
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