Disaster Mass shooting at florida high school - Beware the autism

http://www.wesh.com/article/multiple-injuries-reported-in-shooting-at-florida-high-school/17887738

Multiple people have been injured in an active shooter situation at a high school in south Florida, police confirmed.

The Broward Sheriff's Office is responding to the shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.

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The Coral Springs Police Department is asking students and teachers to remain barricaded inside until police reach you.

According to WSVN, at least three people were seen surrounded by first responders and one person was seen being wheeled into an ambulance. There are reports of up to 20 injuries.
 
I think more likely, cutting down on loopholes and limiting the type of weaponry is something everyone can get behind. Make it illegal to sell guns second hand, unless through a licenced dealer who can do background checks, and maybe let's not have military grade weaponry out there.

I get there'll be criminals who won't abide by this, but the whole idea of "criminals won't follow the law, so lets not have laws" doesn't apply to anything else in our society, so why do we think it should here?

A hundred years ago kids would take rifles to school because after school they'd head out hunting to bring home something to prepare for dinner afterwards. What happened between then and now?
 
Exactly. People who are hell bent on killing as many people as possible don't need a gun. It's just an avenue for them to carry out their plan. The absence of which will cause them to find another equally effective method.(Driving a truck of peace into a crowd comes to mind)

The "REEEE-tards" who cry for taking away everyone's guns can't see beyond the virtue signal of "how many more kids need to die"

A similar parallel happened with child molesters in the 90's. "How many more kids have to get victimized before we do something" was behind the creation of the registry. And the registry hasn't done shit to reduce the number of kids getting diddled, while opening up the concept that it's "ok" to force citizens to participate in monitoring programs for the safety of the community.

Sure, no one gave a shit at the time 'cause who the fuck cares about some chomo's. But look what happened. Pissing in public was enough to get you put on it in the most extreme cases and all it does is cost a shit ton of money, resources and time to keep up that only really provides some laughs on the internet and a slightly more convenient way to deny someone a job or housing.

that and you can create SMGs pretty easily out of common hardware store materials
 
And federally, it's not illegal to purchase bump stocks, which the Las Vegas shooter used to turn his weapon automatic. Some states have enacted laws, but when you can just go next door and get it, it doesn't really matter.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bumpstock-ban-20180212-story.html
Bump stocks don’t make guns automatic, they just make it easier to pull the trigger faster. You can do the exact same thing by just rapidly pulling the trigger. That’s why they weren’t entirely illegal. Plus as stated before the US already limits what guns you can buy, what attachments you can buy, who can buy guns, and where you can take guns (all public schools are “gun free” zones). Also comparing Australia to the US is dumb because Australia doesn’t have a border with a country that is full of cartels and gun smugglers.
 
Bump stocks don’t make guns automatic, they just make it easier to pull the trigger faster. You can do the exact same thing by just rapidly pulling the trigger. That’s why they weren’t entirely illegal. Plus as stated before the US already limits what guns you can buy, what attachments you can buy, who can buy guns, and where you can take guns (all public schools are “gun free” zones). Also comparing Australia to the US is dumb because Australia doesn’t have a border with a country that is full of cartels and gun smugglers.

Well, that big shiny new wall should take care of them, right?

But if you don't want to compare it to Australia, how about to Canada? Or Most of Europe? Canada has the US to the south, and they seem to have a handle on guns pretty good.

But lets do nothing. Criminals will be criminals, why bother ever having laws?
 
A hundred years ago kids would take rifles to school because after school they'd head out hunting to bring home something to prepare for dinner afterwards. What happened between then and now?

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I don't subscribe to the "what's worked in every other country just won't work here". Somehow almost every other civilized country has figured this out, let's see what they did and try to implement that here.

It won't work cause we have centuries of legally acquired fire arms that are in public circulation and a constitutional right to own said firearms and they don't.

Also can we at least get a diseased tag already?
 
It won't work cause we have centuries of legally acquired fire arms that are in public circulation and a constitutional right to own said firearms and they don't.

So we throw our hands up and accept that annually mass murdered kids is acceptable in a first world society?

The Constitution is a living document. It can be amended. But we don't have to do a single thing to the second amendment to be able to just put in place some reasonable restrictions. In Japan you need to take an extensive course before you are issued a gun. Is that not something we can consider? I mean, the second amendment does call for a well regulated militia. Not "any yokel and his uncle can buy any gun from any one."
 
Except this only seems to happen with regularity here. Australia doesn't have an outrageous bomb problem.

I think you underestimate how lazy and impulsive people are. It's super easy to grab an accessible gun and start shooting in a moment of anger, but to actually take the time to craft bombs takes a special kind of dedication. If we only had to deal with the crazies who take time to craft a bomb, we'd save at least all the people dead because someone got mad and had a gun.
They would blow themselves up trying to make them sometimes, too.
 
I completely agree, but it's just that some people are very disrespectful/transparent when it comes to pushing their agenda. Like, it's blatantly obvious that a lot of blue checkmarks on Twitter just love using any opportunity to play Soapbox Sadie and preach to everyone about how good their ideas are.

Suggestions and ideas in the wake of a tragedy are helpful, but it's all in the execution.

Remember when they made Pulse about generic homophobia in America and downplayed the Islamic element of it? Just sayin...

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Apparently the news sourced the ADL, and the ADL sourced a shitpost akin to the Trump pissing on Russian hookers Fan fic saying he was part of some WN group. But now it turns out its all a sham, but they know they just have to get the idea an imagery out there.

There will be token space given to it and token edits made, but they know what will be the page title and the thing people will read first. There will be a tiny note of it in fine print at the bottom of the article, at most. When they are doing the fucking equivalent of claiming the shooter was Sam Hyde once again.

Also I like how even with all this NSA surveillance and every big tech company just throwing data at the feds. They still didn't know who he was despite his real name being his youtube account. They had him cataloged and on file, and even doing the most basic follow up shit they normally do would have set off a shit show. As most people that do these kinda attacks do it for their 15 minutes of fame, hence why they often brag about it on social media before hand. Not even talking about UK tier arrest him for mean speak, but a simple fucking check.

But I guess using a fake pissing memo to get FISA warrants is what the FBI does.
 
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But if you don't want to compare it to Australia, how about to Canada? Or Most of Europe? Canada has the US to the south, and they seem to have a handle on guns pretty good
The UK has the highest crime rate in the Europe and Switzerland has the highest gun ownership in Europe yet the lowest gun related crime rate. And Europe has a truck of peace every other week.

The Constitution is a living document. It can be amended. But we don't have to do a single thing to the second amendment to be able to just put in place some reasonable restrictions. In Japan you need to take an extensive course before you are issued a gun. Is that not something we can consider? I mean, the second amendment does call for a well regulated militia. Not "any yokel and his uncle can buy any gun from any one."
Again, the US already has restrictions purchasing what guns, who can purchase guns (felons can’t, people under 18 can’t), what attachments you can buy and use, and where you can take them. The US isn’t some free gun give away (like Chechnya was), buying a gun is a pain in the ass.
 
The UK has the highest crime rate in the Europe and Switzerland has the highest gun ownership in Europe yet the lowest gun related crime rate. And Europe has a truck of peace every other week.


Again, the US already has restrictions purchasing what guns, who can purchase guns (felons can’t, people under 18 can’t), what attachments you can buy and use, and where you can take them. The US isn’t some free gun give away (like Chechnya was), buying a gun is a pain in the ass.

And yet that's not enough to keep this from happening almost every week.
 
So we throw our hands up and accept that annually mass murdered kids is acceptable in a first world society?

The Constitution is a living document. It can be amended. But we don't have to do a single thing to the second amendment to be able to just put in place some reasonable restrictions. In Japan you need to take an extensive course before you are issued a gun. Is that not something we can consider? I mean, the second amendment does call for a well regulated militia. Not "any yokel and his uncle can buy any gun from any one."
You can't track all those guns that are legally,let alone illegally, in the wild. It's fucking impossible.

So we throw our hands up and accept that annually mass murdered kids is acceptable in a first world society?
Never claimed such a thing. I would love gun safety courses or something like that as a requirement, but that only helps with things like accidental discharges. It's also an important part for many Americans, including myself, to be able to defend myself from those that want to do me harm and not have to rely on the police being quick enough to help me so use "any yokel and his uncle" who are well to do citizens should be able to buy guns whether it's from a store or their neighbor.
 
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