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montepio said:
Why isn't Null a wiiiiiiiiieeeeeeen?

Just because he owns KF?

Not judging, just asking (for you sensible snow fucking kike flakes).
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Because a we3n is one who puts effort into fucking with Chris for minimal return.

Null is neither we3ning him nor white-knighting him. He's helping to reduce the signal-to-noise ratio of Chris's incoming email and weed out the shitbars trying to take advantage of Chris's combination of new fame and old autism.

You should lurk moar since you are unclear on basic definitions.
 
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Subconcious Offense said:
Has he ever given names to his meltdown antics before? He named his balling up a "Hedgehog Defense Mode," which makes it sound like he deliberately did it as some form of passive protest.
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You do realize he could name it after the fact? as funny as it was.

And passive protest is kind of an improvement for Chris btw.

Also, I don't really get what you're out to prove, could you please tell us your important statement on the oh-so-very momentous occasion of a person helping a disabled person?

Snuckening said:
People take anything the least bit critical, or even questioning, of Null's actions, as "I hope Chris dies in a fire and Null is literally Hitler". Unbridled praise and outright hatred aren't the only two options, and not every comment is deadly serious. And disagreeing with Null is not the same as wishing harm upon Chris.

Every time anyone interacts with Chris nowadays they will, 100% certain, get called "wccn", especially if they post here about it. But this one time suddenly it's a great shock and a terrible injustice?
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Here's the thing, people here cannot get past the CWCki's classifications of people who interact with Chris, but when you think about it, people are fucking complex creatures, and their motivations for interacting with Chris should be seen as such.

Also, a lot of people in the wider forum consider this forum to be utter cancer, so don't use the behavior you see here as an indication of how the rest of the site behaves. I personally recommend that you read other threads so you can finally get that yardstick. Hit me up for recommendations.
 
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neural said:
Also, I don't really get what you're out to prove, could you please tell us your important statement on the oh-so-very momentous occasion of a person helping a disabled person?
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Not every post has an agenda. Try not forcing yourself to see something out of nothing.
 
neural said:
Also, a lot of people in the wider forum consider this forum to be utter cancer, so don't use the behavior you see here as an indication of how the rest of the site behaves. I personally recommend that you read other threads so you can finally get that yardstick. Hit me up for recommendations.
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Why do people consider this forum to be particularly cancerous? I don't really browse the rest. Checked out a Boogie thread and it seemed like more of the same in tone.
 
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Wrathcaster said:
Why do people consider this forum to be particularly cancerous? I don't really browse the rest. Checked out a Boogie thread and it seemed like more of the same in tone.
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I believe it's the general attitude and atmosphere in here.

You can see it in the way people are getting extremely possessive of Chris and extraordinarily invested in his fate, going on rants and attempting to dox anybody who enters within 10 meters of him instead of being smart about it and letting things play out a little, maybe even trying to get info out of it.

Also, you see these people treating things like the GameStop macing or the Snyder feud like it happened a few hours ago, and still speaking about it with extreme frothing-in-the-mouth outrage. You got people who are absolutely convinced that anyone who talks to Chris is either a troll, a whiteknight or a ween, and cannot think outside those perimeters at all. It's like the Cult of CWCki, if you catch my drift.

All that and probably more is what makes forum regulars not go in here anymore. That, and the general boringness of Chris as a cow nowadays, believe me, there are far, far funnier cows than Chris on this site, see the recommendations thread on lolcow general (or do the smart thing and head straight to the Tommy Tooter or Becca Haernandez threads).

I am unfamiliar with the Boogie thread, so I can't comment on that.

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Not every post has an agenda. Try not forcing yourself to see something out of nothing.
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Very hard not to do that when people cannot detach themselves from the tropes of Christory to see what's actually going on, an autist actually tried to scam Chris for money, almost entirely fucking him up. If shit like this is allowed to fly, even through passive inaction, then you will see autists trying to scam Chris, it's just a trend.

I get the feeling that a lot of people here are very married to a specific sequence of events that they want Chris to go through, some people want to see him get dragged to an asylum or a group home, some really want to see the homeless saga happen for whatever reason..etc. And it's all getting wrapped up underneath this facade of wanting Chris to "learn" and "face consequences".

The way I see it, many CWC forum regulars essentially want to A-Log him without getting branded as an A-Log.

If this mischaracterizes you, then I apologize to you, but if it does characterize you, then you should seriously add other cows to your watchlist and stop attaching so much importance to Chris's fate.

This brings up the natural question of how I see things.. The way I see it, we're on the autism train, and it takes us where it takes us, but some autist started a fire in the train and now we either fight the fire or see the train come to a stop. I firmly believe that happy Chris makes for better content, and we're seeing this already with Hedgehog-defensoce stance and other things too.
 
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muh_moobs said:
So the CWC protect squad is back?
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Protection in this case extends as far as shielding Chris from the types of assholes who will do stupid and even illegal things to fuck with him, with the added bonus this forum does not have to suffer their idiocy.

If he does foolish things, entirely of his own volition, Null has elected to let Chris suffer the consequences insofar as those consequences do not involve his injury, death, or harm to general well-being (with the caveat that even Null cannot do shit after the fact nor can he prevail on Chris to cease any such actions he's determined to do of his own free will)

Unlike a white knight, this does not excuse Chris' flaws, does not extend past doing for him what a responsible caretaker of a disabled child would generally do, and the motives are as ethical as you could possibly hope for in such an arrangement, as Null has been transparent in his efforts and given proof this is done with the consent of Chris.
 
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wellthathappened said:
I'm really amazed at how many people genuinely feel animosity towards anyone helping Chris. What in the world inspires such feelings? Chris is almost completely harmless.
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The board is divided between those who think the trolling must go on until the bitter end and those who are tired of seeing unfunny attempts to beat the bleached bones of a dead lolcow over and over. It's an emotional maturity thing. Many people here still see a lot of themselves in Chris and wish him nothing but misery. In contrast, a lot of us are aware of how stupidly unfunny and dangerous is to enable Chris into his fantasy world and don't want to see a dead tard over moronic reasons.

Wëens goona wëen. "You are either a troll or a white knight" transaltes into "you either defend or attack". All those conclusions are very simple minded, very Chris-like.
 
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I'm only a casual observer of Chris, but this is what I'm seeing:

People: "Oh no! Chris is in need of serious help! Someone must do something!"
Null: "I'm going to do something."
People: "Lol white knight"

It's like a freaking bucket of crabs in here. Everyone agrees that Chris needs a wrangler, but as soon as someone steps up to wrangle, even in the mildest forms, they grab him and start trying to pull his legs off.
 
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Pepito said:
Wëens goona wëen. "You are either a troll or a white knight" transaltes into "you either defend or attack". All those conclusions are very simple minded, very Chris-like.
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Chris is a fairly gross manchild who will never have sex again unless he pays for it. He will never be a contributing member of society, he will never breed, he will never accept responsibility for his actions and he will always be an idiot who ruins any chances of profiting from his infamy without ever understanding why.

But I don't hate the goofball, he's just who he is. I don't want him to be homeless or go to jail. I guess that's white knighting these days.
 
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wellthathappened said:
Chris is a fairly gross manchild who will never have sex again unless he pays for it. He will never be a contributing member of society, he will never accept responsibility for his actions and he will always be an idiot who ruins any chances of profiting from his infamy without ever understanding why.

But I don't hate the goofball, he's just who he is. I don't want him to be homeless or go to jail. I guess that's white knighting these days.
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As far as my understanding goes, White-Knighting is when you defend someone's stupid motives or actions based on your attunement to said person's personality, traits or way of thinking. I want to believe that no one in it's right mind will ever defend public groping and/or non-consensual kissing. At least I'm sure Null doesn't.

As @GethN7 said:
If he does foolish things, entirely of his own volition, Null has elected to let Chris suffer the consequences insofar as those consequences do not involve his injury, death, or harm to general well-being (...)
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And why does he do that? Ask Null. Maybe it is because all wëens will get associated with Kiwi Farms, even when they originated somewhere else and they need to be put in line, maybe because he feels responsible for Chris's situation, maybe because Chris is his favorite cow and Null sees a very bleak future for OPL if things continue to go unchecked or maybe because Chris was getting scammed out of the little money he gets by some motherfucker and he had enough.

Who knows? and ultimately, Who cares? It's Null's free time, not ours. He's not the autistic leader of the retarded Illuminati and needs to explain his actions to the flock or whatever. He just runs this place and wanted to give the chubby autist a helping hand. If you want to flame the guy for it, go ahead. It's the modus vivendi of the farms after all.

But, at least in my eyes, doing a little selfless good doesn't make you a White Knight, It makes you human.
 
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Thanks for the heads-up, guys. You have such an intricate jargon that I get confused, I'm not a full blood autistic to grasp it 100%, but I apreciate you explaining that to me.

I also don´t get the 'Don't pozload my negholep > Touches the poop' 'Don´t give Chris money > Gives Chris money' and so on, there must be something really screwed up to have Null step in.

Cheers
 
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