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NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus
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You know what if GAF and Era want to end toxic behavior in online games they should really advocate for the return of private servers and having all data hosted on the user's end.
If you remove the centralized servers you remove the need to be shoved into a room with everyone from under the sun. Everyone has the ability to make their own server/lobby and everyone has the ability to let in who they want to play with. If Overwatch was like OG Unreal Tournament you would have every game take place on it's own server or lobby. Bad game? Kick the player and they go somewhere else or the kicked player makes their own lobby. The inclusion of e-sports, social media, Always Online, and other bullshit ruined this whole concept and that's where this so called "toxicity" came from.
By returning power to the users and having a whole game being able to run of a single computer through LAN and other means is the only actual real way to solve this problem. It's not forcing companies to impose harsh draconian punishments and people losing access to their games, it's no launching fucking #metoo clone social media campaigns. It's giving people access to the game data they paid for and allowing them to be free to play the game how they wish.
Take a look at Divinity Original Sin 2, party based CRPG which allows multiple players to drop in and out of the campaign at will. Everything can be online or be run locally. Stuff like MMos would benefit from that as well. let players make their own servers and lobbies and have them play the game how they choose.
Want to fucking ERP in Goldshire without trolls busting in? Make a private server since you have all the data for everything on your PC. Want to just Run Molten Core with a group of friends for a few hours on a weekend? Spawn in everyone automatically leveled to 60 on your own server and just get to it.
Want to explore the world without a bunch of fucking normies getting in your way? Make your own server and turn on GM mode and do whatever the hell you want since nothing can kill you and yet you can kill everything in a single hit. Run through all the content at breakneck speed do all the shit without requiring the help of lesser more incompetent mortals.
Or fuck it make a draenei sex harem and then kill them all an hour later by spawning aggressive monsters through console commands. The world is you oyster, you own your game and all it contains.
If you remove the centralized servers you remove the need to be shoved into a room with everyone from under the sun. Everyone has the ability to make their own server/lobby and everyone has the ability to let in who they want to play with. If Overwatch was like OG Unreal Tournament you would have every game take place on it's own server or lobby. Bad game? Kick the player and they go somewhere else or the kicked player makes their own lobby. The inclusion of e-sports, social media, Always Online, and other bullshit ruined this whole concept and that's where this so called "toxicity" came from.
By returning power to the users and having a whole game being able to run of a single computer through LAN and other means is the only actual real way to solve this problem. It's not forcing companies to impose harsh draconian punishments and people losing access to their games, it's no launching fucking #metoo clone social media campaigns. It's giving people access to the game data they paid for and allowing them to be free to play the game how they wish.
Take a look at Divinity Original Sin 2, party based CRPG which allows multiple players to drop in and out of the campaign at will. Everything can be online or be run locally. Stuff like MMos would benefit from that as well. let players make their own servers and lobbies and have them play the game how they choose.
Want to fucking ERP in Goldshire without trolls busting in? Make a private server since you have all the data for everything on your PC. Want to just Run Molten Core with a group of friends for a few hours on a weekend? Spawn in everyone automatically leveled to 60 on your own server and just get to it.
Want to explore the world without a bunch of fucking normies getting in your way? Make your own server and turn on GM mode and do whatever the hell you want since nothing can kill you and yet you can kill everything in a single hit. Run through all the content at breakneck speed do all the shit without requiring the help of lesser more incompetent mortals.
Or fuck it make a draenei sex harem and then kill them all an hour later by spawning aggressive monsters through console commands. The world is you oyster, you own your game and all it contains.
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NetherRealm bent over backwards to appease these fucksticks, and they still find "problematic" shit to bitch about.
When will developers learn that nothing is ever good enough for ResetERA and stop bowing to their whims?
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Maybe they could put some energy into the real world sexual assaults and shit working conditions of the company rather than devoting all their time to fighting titty costumes.
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Small publishers nowadays are often staffed with an awful lot of raging troons and their attention-starved orbiters (thanks to vidya being a nerd pastime and nerds being more and more absorbed into the troon shittery) who treat ResetERA like the gospel. They will often steer the game production into NPC nonsense because their indoctrination won't allow them to just (gasp) make games for fun. Of course, expect them to dump the blame for their commercial failures on the ignorant cis white gamers.
Now with mid-sized and AAA publishers, it's different. The reality is, you don't get a job into one of those by being a hack, unless you're some trust-funded clown like John Flynt. And for some mysterious reason, the population of troons and the like among actually talented people is shockingly low. Where does the soy infestation come from then ? From the marketing department. For the past decade the West Coast has been flooding marketing departments in the industry with champagne socialists, because marketing is one of the few careers their worthless degrees let them pursue.
And these people also religiously stick to the bullshit ResetERA happily propagates. The higher-ups in the industry don't know what's going to sell and what's not, that's why they have a marketing department and what they pay those shitbags for. The shitbags say "make more helicopter-sexual genderfluid lesbian superheroes, that's what gamers want", and the higher-ups believe them.
And that's why developpers everywhere, big and small, still suck ResetERA's ladycock. I think change will happen when shareholders get mad at their tanking dividends and initiate a massive soycuck purge. Kinda like what happened when Buzzfeed and the other glorified bloggers had their mass layoffs because it turns out not enough people care about identity politics for it to be a viable market.
Herbert West Reanimator
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Preach, brother. I've been explaining this to people myself for a while now. Matchmaking systems are the bane of multiplayer decorum. If you want to end "toxicity", return to the era in which there was no single, monolithic "community" but rather a plethora of subcommunities for all possible tastes, places where people actually got to know one another and respected one another as friends and equals.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/is...a-game-with-playable-female-character.114042/
Here's the thing, Rockstar could probably write awesome female characters, but when you see the demands and crying like you do on Resetera you almost hope they don't do it.
When things don't happen organically intersectionality arrives, then it becomes... Why aren't they gay? Why aren't they trans? Why aren't they furries? Why aren't they Muslim? Why aren't they disabled? Why aren't they fat? Why aren't they non-binary? Why aren't they Mexican? Why aren't they niggers from outer space?
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Everything that is in GTA would be instantly problematic and needing to be censored if it was a female lead. You just know that is exactly what they want. The female GTA... so they can then call Rockstar sexist, misogynist and Nazis all because they treated female characters in their games like male. I thought THAT was equality?
Nah, a game like GTA would then need to become progressive diversity simulator and all bad words, violence, sexy imagery and jokes removed.
How long has it been since we've said PDP is a mass shooter? Too long
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pd...zes-as-he-is-down-by-1-2-million-subs.114086/
Sometimes I think these people are really unwell and need help, should we be laughing at them like going to a zoo and looking at animals in a cage? Then I see posters like L Thammy and it reminds me lolcows thrive on the attention that comes from lying, misrepresenting and being exceptional people.
So I get back to the duty of fighting the good fight in the meme war.
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Here's the thing, Rockstar could probably write awesome female characters, but when you see the demands and crying like you do on Resetera you almost hope they don't do it.
When things don't happen organically intersectionality arrives, then it becomes... Why aren't they gay? Why aren't they trans? Why aren't they furries? Why aren't they Muslim? Why aren't they disabled? Why aren't they fat? Why aren't they non-binary? Why aren't they Mexican? Why aren't they niggers from outer space?
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Everything that is in GTA would be instantly problematic and needing to be censored if it was a female lead. You just know that is exactly what they want. The female GTA... so they can then call Rockstar sexist, misogynist and Nazis all because they treated female characters in their games like male. I thought THAT was equality?
Nah, a game like GTA would then need to become progressive diversity simulator and all bad words, violence, sexy imagery and jokes removed.
These idiots wouldn't be happy with a woman as the main character, it will have to be a true and honest woman, the best kind of woman, one with a girl-dick, before they were happy. But it would also have to be a POC womxn, obvs.
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Before debating whether there should be a female GTA protagonist, we should just ask ourselves something: what the feck would even be the point of that anyway???
First of all, i can't really wrap my mind around the concept of fighting for equal rights of entirely fictional beings in entertainment media that are simply designed to appeal to specific demographics as if there were actual, real life workplace/employment discrimination issues going on.
Secondly, if it's a matter of representation, like, "we really need to portray positive images of women being BADASS!!!!1!", who should be the target of that kind of dumb "education" anyway? The grown up men that are like the 99% of the audience that actually consume the game? Why the hell should they even care about that? It's not a product that aims to educate young children and to offer them some kind of role model, isn't it?
And lastly, believing that just shoving ugly, ugly manfaced butch lesbians everywhere actually incentives more women to play hyper violent and gory shooting games it's so incredibly stupid, simplistic and completely out of touch from reality that it looks like an idea that a little child could come up with.
See, one of the major problem that i have with identity politics and modern "progressivism" is not that it's just an ideology that i might not agree with, but that it's just so irrational and nonsensical in every way possible.
First of all, i can't really wrap my mind around the concept of fighting for equal rights of entirely fictional beings in entertainment media that are simply designed to appeal to specific demographics as if there were actual, real life workplace/employment discrimination issues going on.
Secondly, if it's a matter of representation, like, "we really need to portray positive images of women being BADASS!!!!1!", who should be the target of that kind of dumb "education" anyway? The grown up men that are like the 99% of the audience that actually consume the game? Why the hell should they even care about that? It's not a product that aims to educate young children and to offer them some kind of role model, isn't it?
And lastly, believing that just shoving ugly, ugly manfaced butch lesbians everywhere actually incentives more women to play hyper violent and gory shooting games it's so incredibly stupid, simplistic and completely out of touch from reality that it looks like an idea that a little child could come up with.
See, one of the major problem that i have with identity politics and modern "progressivism" is not that it's just an ideology that i might not agree with, but that it's just so irrational and nonsensical in every way possible.
YoungGrumpyMan
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"The Housers don't know how to write women". What a bunch of bullshit. I loved Sadie Adler in Red Dead Redemption 2, she was one of my favorite characters outside Arthur Morgan, and she was very well written.View attachment 740242
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Here's the thing, Rockstar could probably write awesome female characters, but when you see the demands and crying like you do on Resetera you almost hope they don't do it.
When things don't happen organically intersectionality arrives, then it becomes... Why aren't they gay? Why aren't they trans? Why aren't they furries? Why aren't they Muslim? Why aren't they disabled? Why aren't they fat? Why aren't they non-binary? Why aren't they Mexican? Why aren't they niggers from outer space?
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Everything that is in GTA would be instantly problematic and needing to be censored if it was a female lead. You just know that is exactly what they want. The female GTA... so they can then call Rockstar sexist, misogynist and Nazis all because they treated female characters in their games like male. I thought THAT was equality?
Nah, a game like GTA would then need to become progressive diversity simulator and all bad words, violence, sexy imagery and jokes removed.
Hell, she even kind of represents the "strong and independent woman" archetype, having no problems whatsoever with doing what at the time would be considered a man's job.
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These toxic cunts don't want that, though. Having their own server where everything is done their way does nothing for them. They don't enjoy things. That's for "Nazis."
Their only joy is knocking over and wrecking shit other people are enjoying to force them to be as miserable and joyless as they are.
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I bet you any money that just as the Edwardian moral guardian with their downer on fun on a Sunday, children being seen and not heard, and heterosexual sex in the missionary position only after marriage was secretly a hard-drinking whore-hiring maniac, these ResetEra types secretly love those old racist cartoons where Tom gets caught in a landslide of coal, comes up in blackface, and slinks off like on a minstrel show, or similar.
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Fuck it you know what. You know how Rockstar made a table tennis game even though no one gave a shit about pin pong, and yet it was a solid game done with sincerity? They need to do that shit again, except pick something even more nitche.
Do a game about competitive eating. Make the main character a fucking female who does nothing but try a jam burgers down her gullet the size of the milky way. Have LA Beast guest star as once of the voices to the NPCs, get a sponsorship from Nathans and release a special limited edition of Crystal Pepsi to tie in with the game.
Tell the fucking tale of our heroine who must go from venue to venue conquering each meal like Alexander the Great conquered countries. Use those next gen physics and algorithms for realistic cheese sauce and chili effects. Put those goddamn burgers in Battlefield Hardline to shame. A true digital role model for all the girls out there aspiring to sit on their ass all day and consume food for social media praise.
Do a game about competitive eating. Make the main character a fucking female who does nothing but try a jam burgers down her gullet the size of the milky way. Have LA Beast guest star as once of the voices to the NPCs, get a sponsorship from Nathans and release a special limited edition of Crystal Pepsi to tie in with the game.
Tell the fucking tale of our heroine who must go from venue to venue conquering each meal like Alexander the Great conquered countries. Use those next gen physics and algorithms for realistic cheese sauce and chili effects. Put those goddamn burgers in Battlefield Hardline to shame. A true digital role model for all the girls out there aspiring to sit on their ass all day and consume food for social media praise.
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It'd be a wonderful solution if that was what they wanted. Thing is that's not what they really are all about, this is about control. If everybody is on their own private servers how are they going to be able to ban the nazis out of the game entirely instead of just one measly server?
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Rockstar games are and have always been majorly dominated by the male demographic like even with GTAV you're still looking at something like a 75-25 ratio. And look at their other franchises: Max Payne is a gritty noir starring the Punisher. Manhunt is about brutally murdering a bunch of criminals for the chance of freedom. The main character is male because the only thing that's going to happen to him upon game over is death. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happens to a woman who suddenly finds herself helpless in a den of wolves. That opens up a whole new area of controversy in a game that already had far too much of it.
Companies are always going to make decisions based on what's going to sell the most. When your games set records for both production costs and sales numbers and are mainly male-dominated then yeah your protags are going to tend to be men because companies exist to make
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All that having been said though it certainly wouldn't surprise me to see RDR3 (or maybe they'll release single-player DLC for 2 hahaha) star Sadie because while not spoiling anything in 2 it's seems the most obvious choice (assuming they don't just go a whole new character) after taking the events of RDR1 into account. But that's a long way off.
Companies are always going to make decisions based on what's going to sell the most. When your games set records for both production costs and sales numbers and are mainly male-dominated then yeah your protags are going to tend to be men because companies exist to make
.All that having been said though it certainly wouldn't surprise me to see RDR3 (or maybe they'll release single-player DLC for 2 hahaha) star Sadie because while not spoiling anything in 2 it's seems the most obvious choice (assuming they don't just go a whole new character) after taking the events of RDR1 into account. But that's a long way off.
If they decide to bring back an RDR character it'll either be Sadie, Chuck or Jack. Chuck doesn't have the bloodlust of the other two and explicitly states his desire to raise a family at the end of 2 while Jack already avenged his father at the end of 1. Sadie lost everything she had at the beginning of 2 and then displayed pure bloodlust throughout the rest of the game (even during the final mission where she murders Cleet in cold blood) so looking at the most obvious choice, an RDR3 starring Sadie continuing her run as homicidal cowgirl down in SA would seem the best bet
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Ironically, though, most of the best competitive eaters are normal weight or even skinny. Just like any other competitive endeavor.
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If the main character in GTA VI were a woman, ResetERA would want her to be a Robin Hood-style archetype that eventually becomes a state senator who opens a rec center that only accepts a trans clientele.
Muh_Soggy_Knee
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No every studio has to make a game with a female lead.
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If they want to keep being able to publish they must make one game a year at least with a female lead character or else lose publishing rights on the console.
Jesus... saying that scared me even.
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Tell that to Sony Bend, they made Days Gone, the game itself it's something that all those journos and regular reeetardera eat up like a bull's cum, but they DARE to make the game with the "wrong" kind of protagonist and plot: