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TungstenCarbide said:
So i just rewatched the episode (it's just me or it was too dark?) and I saw that Danaerys
basically used Jorah like a human shield. That's taking the friendzone to another level.
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That was just bad choreography. Jorah was stepping in front of her to stop the blows. He's one of the best swordsmen in Westeros and she's a dumb bitch, so I wouldn't expect her to be a badass at fighting.

I thought the scenes with Jorah were the best parts, to be honest. They also had the Ironborn drawing their arrows from vases on the ground, instead of giving them stupid quivers on their back. That was a good attention to historical detail, even though I'm 98% certain they did it because they just couldn't find any quivers when they filmed that scene.
 
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Could anyone explain to me the whole Beric scene? Was that the only reason he was brought back?
 
Chester Rigby said:
I thought he was going to have a more important purpose... But apparently, that's not the case.

In the books, he gives his life to resurrect Catelyn Stark.
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I feel like they didn't know what to do with him, how does someone who died six times (He got stabbed in the eye ffs) die from a couple of jabs to the ankle and back?
 
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Spatula said:
What if Martin told D&D to write the show like this, just so he can test the audience reaction and rewrite the last 2 books?
Maybe that's why it takes so long for the fat man to release winds of winter, he is rewriting it as we speak.
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I, and several people in this thread, have read millions of words worth of Martin's writing.

I think I can speak for all of 'em when I say Martin has never written anything as bad as the best writing Benioff and Weiss have to offer. Let alone their worst.

Thatonedude said:
I feel like they didn't know what to do with him, how does someone who died six times (He got stabbed in the eye ffs) die from a couple of jabs to the ankle and back?
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They should've made Beric the one who killed the Night King, and this is coming from someone who was mostly fine with Arya doing it.

It would've meant more if the only reason she landed the killing blow was her not-her brother being too stupid to not stand like a rëtard when he was in spitting distance of the most dangerous entity in Planetos and armed with a weapon he already knew could kill him, but at least Arya trained with the best assassins in the world before she offed her story's evil sorcerer-knight, unlike certain fantasy-franchise protagonists.
 
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Spatula said:
What if Martin told D&D to write the show like this, just so he can test the audience reaction and rewrite the last 2 books?
Maybe that's why it takes so long for the fat man to release winds of winter, he is rewriting it as we speak.
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So what his excuse for the gap between A Storm of Swords and A Feast for Crows then?
 
Bookreaders, help me out.
Was it confirmed that Azor Ahai was supposed to fight White Walkers? The wiki made it sound like the WW were a prophetic sign rather than the calamity AA is supposed to fix. For all I know, it could mean his reincarnation will bring peace and prosperity to Westeros for the first time in centuries.
 
Well, turns out the whole fucking show builds up to the Night King being disposed off even with less impact than fucking Littlefinger. What a let-down. Also fuck 10.000 years of mythology and prophesies, turns out Cersei is a bigger threat to Westeros. She's the endboss and she's a bigger threat. Why? Cause she has a snatch that she uses to charm random dimwits to do her bidding. How could the Night King hope to match that and become the actual endboss of the show? He could only raise the fucking dead, clearly no match for Cersei's twat.

On a more serious note, this episode was really anticlimactic and it would have been a whole fucking lot better to resolve the Iron Throne conflict before dealing with the Night King, it feels so utterly idiotic to do it the other way around. First, utter survival of every living thing was at stake. Now, in the coming episodes, people will fight over the privilege of sitting on a pointy, rusty chair. I didn't care about Sansa's and Dany's endless bickering about the iron throne/king in the north bullshit back then, I won't care in the future.

And even with her epic kill at the end, it feels like bear loli (and Dolorous Ed, for that matter) was a mere cheap shock-death. A shame, really.

I'm genuinely contemplating to just ditch watching the last couple episodes for the time being, since this lackluster resolution to the Night King plot has really taken away all investment I had in the show.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
Well, turns out the whole fucking show builds up to the Night King being disposed off even with less impact than fucking Littlefinger. What a let-down. Also fuck 10.000 years of mythology and prophesies, turns out Cersei is a bigger threat to Westeros. She's the endboss and she's a bigger threat. Why? Cause she has a snatch that she uses to charm random dimwits to do her bidding. How could the Night King hope to match that and become the actual endboss of the show? He could only raise the fucking dead, clearly no match for Cersei's twat.
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Vagina > really old and really white guy
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
Well, turns out the whole fucking show builds up to the Night King being disposed off even with less impact than fucking Littlefinger. What a let-down. Also fuck 10.000 years of mythology and prophesies, turns out Cersei is a bigger threat to Westeros. She's the endboss and she's a bigger threat
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Dany is the big threat and the final endboss.

Here are my thoughts:

1. If the plan was to lure the night king to the weirwood forest, why did they only have five ironborn archers defending? What was the trap?

2. Why did the evilest of all evil of the show kill less important characters than one treacherous wedding?

3. Why the fuck is the show so stupid with hiding in the crypt?

4. Who places siege engines and infantry outside the perimeter?

5. Why have spiked wooden fortifications knowing people could get hurt against those, but not the enemy?

6. How did jon survive dragonfire by hiding behind stone, when dragonfire easily blasts through stone in other scenes and in the lore (harrenhal)?

7. Best use of cavalry ever.

8. I find it hard to believe that the hound would just let Arya go out again.

9. Dany really didn't seem to care much about her dragons compared to jorah.

10. Why did the night king want to kill bran personally anyways? Why not wait until everyone is dead? Why was the whole encounter so boring and cookie cutter?

They've really gone off the deep end. The only thing that could salvage it is if the three eyed raven was an ultimate evil that the night king was trying to stop.
 
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John Titor said:
Bookreaders, help me out.
Was it confirmed that Azor Ahai was supposed to fight White Walkers? The wiki made it sound like the WW were a prophetic sign rather than the calamity AA is supposed to fix. For all I know, it could mean his reincarnation will bring peace and prosperity to Westeros for the first time in centuries.
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Very little about Azor Ahai is confirmed, including whether or not he actually ever existed. But Melisandre believes he is meant to fight the Great Other (the title of an entity of cold, darkness, and death that her religion refuses to actually name), who she also believes the Others (called specifically White Walkers in the show, which is an epithet used in the books too albeit rarely) serve. That said the Azor Ahai story does share the Long Night phenomenon of other legends so they're at least probably a legendary rendition of actual historical truth, however distorted.

None of this is confirmed at all and I expect Martin is going in a whole other direction with this since so far in the books the Children of the Forest show no interest whatsoever in helping Bran confront the Others. They just want to plug him into their server.

RomanesEuntDomus said:
Well, turns out the whole fucking show builds up to the Night King being disposed off even with less impact than fucking Littlefinger. What a let-down. Also fuck 10.000 years of mythology and prophesies, turns out Cersei is a bigger threat to Westeros. She's the endboss and she's a bigger threat. Why? Cause she has a snatch that she uses to charm random dimwits to do her bidding. How could the Night King hope to match that and become the actual endboss of the show? He could only raise the fucking dead, clearly no match for Cersei's twat.

On a more serious note, this episode was really anticlimactic and it would have been a whole fucking lot better to resolve the Iron Throne conflict before dealing with the Night King, it feels so utterly idiotic to do it the other way around. First, utter survival of every living thing was at stake. Now, in the coming episodes, people will fight over the privilege of sitting on a pointy, rusty chair. I didn't care about Sansa's and Dany's endless bickering about the iron throne/king in the north bullshit back then, I won't care in the future.

And even with her epic kill at the end, it feels like bear loli (and Dolorous Ed, for that matter) was a mere cheap shock-death. A shame, really.

I'm genuinely contemplating to just ditch watching the last couple episodes for the time being, since this lackluster resolution to the Night King plot has really taken away all investment I had in the show.
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As someone pointed out, a subversion like this could actually work if Euron was the secret endboss rather than Cersei. But only if it was book Euron who actually seems to have some idea of what's going on.
 
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It's like the writers of the show read about the time travelling fetus theory and decided 'Hey, we can work on writing something as stupid as this!'
 
Someone made passing reference the dothraki charge was unplanned. Personally not buying it, but it would have at least been a good cop out for the stupidity.

Personally the unsullied and dothraki being nearly eliminated was pretext for the writers to avoid the problems of a foreign army fighting a civil war for the good guys (which I vaguely recall being mentioned as a huge issue in the books) Now the heroes have to win with home grown talent and two dragons, while the Lannister army is now the foreign one.
 
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