Game of Thrones Thread

[Secret Asshole]

Yup. It is 100% real. Its actually worse than Mass Effect, because there are mods in which you can remove the Star Child entirely, play the Citadel DLC as the true ending, which was edited to remove any reference to the ongoing conflict so it takes place after.

However, this is forever. You can't undo this, this will be it forever. And if Martin doesn't finish the story, this will be the true ending. And my God, will it be horrible.

Also, you can't talk about tactics on this show anymore after the disgrace that was episode 3. I mean, holy shit. No moats? No rivers of pitch? No burning oil? No catapults inside the walls? No cavalry held in reserve to flank the massive walls of the dead and push them into the burning moats of pitch? Like, a zombie army is the best thing to come at a medieval castle because there's no tactics, they just charge at it. No siege weapons, nothing. Thousands upon thousands of people died while trying to do what the zombies did, and they were smart about it. Medieval warfare would wreck a mindless army, because it was so defensive.

The battle should have been completely one-sided until the Night King starts blasting everything to shit with his dragon, which gives him a reason to actually go in because his undead army is getting owned. But the whole fucking episode was full retard, so there's that.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

They actually fell in love on set.

Do you reckon that when he's plating her IRL she actually ever says "You know nothing, Jon Sn-OHHHHHH!!!" like she did in the series 3 episode?

However, this is forever. You can't undo this, this will be it forever. And if Martin doesn't finish the story, this will be the true ending. And my God, will it be horrible.

The only solution would be for some other writer to pick it up afterwards like what happened with Robert Jordan's demise during Wheel of Time. I'm kinda hoping for Bernard Cornwell or Joe Abercrombie to do it. They would do a bang up job methinks.

 

[Zero0]

The only solution would be for some other writer to pick it up afterwards like what happened with Robert Jordan's demise during Wheel of Time. I'm kinda hoping for Bernard Cornwell or Joe Abercrombie to do it. They would do a bang up job methinks.

Wouldn't they need GRRM permission?

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Wouldn't they need GRRM permission?

I was assuming that the books remained unfinished because GRRM died beforehand.

 

[Grand Lunar]

I'm afraid there are. Look back at my posts for how this happens. The same people did plot point for plot point spoilers for episode 4 and everything they said was correct.

Also, when the finale airs the internet is going to burn. Seriously, the entire fandom will collapse. There will be like 5 people who think it was a masterpiece.

What is also telling is the showrunners will not be anywhere near the internet when the finale drops. Which tells you they know they fucked up and people will hate it. Because they were phoning everything in.

I mean, it's not like it's out of the question that whoever this is originally from mixed in fake info about the ending with the known real info about episode 4. Call me for this, but even though it sounds like something Dumb&Dumber might do there are some reasons that I have my doubts.

Spoiler

• Some info is clearly missing. No mention of Yara, though it's likely that she somehow takes out Euron's fleet and destroys the scorpions so that Drogon can get through. No info on Arya's role. Unclear how Cersei is killed.
• The writer of the EW insider article claimed that the finale would include a never-before-seen set and unexpected characters, while saying that it made them "piece together what had happened in Westeros" and that they were astounded. Unless that was a lead on, nothing about the supposed spoilers matches up to it.
• The episode 6 leak regarding Tyrion's death from a while back, also said to be from a source that had produced accurate leaks before, is now pretty much void based on current events in the show.
• Jon killing Dany could be the third promised big reveal, but doesn't sound quite right since this has been a common prediction unlike the Hodor and Shireen reveals.
• There was that set picture of Jon meeting with Cersei from a while back, which would probably contradict this. Could have been a red herring, but maybe not.

I think I thought of a few other reasons, but I'll leave it there for now.

 

[дядя Боря]

Ya know the dumbass fucking scorpion/ballista schtick made me realise the show could have easily come up with a credible counter to the dragons and team dany while also tying up a fairly significant loose end.

Remember the pyromancers from season 2 and the background lore? Have them continue appearing in a seemingly minor capacity in season 3 and beyond by having a plot thread of how Joffrey has enlisted them to create a weapon that might kill Danys dragons given how he was shown to be worried about them in season 3 and is just impulsive enough to throw vast amounts of money and resources at the mad scientists who just blew up Stannis's fleet a few weeks ago.

Once Qyburn arrives he lends his knowledge to this secret unknown project which is when it shifts from wildfire to some other mysterious substance that is mentioned in passing as being surprisingly easy to acquire and create compared to wildfire, and after Joffrey dies, Tywin has the project continue due to his own growing concern over Dany's dragons, and once he dies Cersei gives them pretty much a blank cheque to do whatever they need/want, her knowledge of how utterly fucked she is if she doesnt get something good causing her to pour everything she has into this project, even enlisting Euron and co to help with getting shit together and setting shit up.

A few seasons pass and when the whole fake alliance thing happens Cersei has a far better reason to be so confident she can overcome not only team Dany but the undead horde too should they win, with nothing explicit shown about the mystery weapon yet other than the end results of its tests against buildings/people which show it to be something extremely powerful.

Come season 8 and when Dany leads her forces against Kings Landing, Cersei just smirks and says the word "fire"....

Spoiler

....and a hundred goddamn cannons turn half the unsullied and one of her dragons into fucking mulch

Boom. The traditional fantasy genre gets a subversion that actually makes sense in-universe and in a allegorical sense while adding a massive game-changer to the lore, and the whole fire schtick in the narrative gets a major new dimension, and best of all the whole "breaking the old system" motif becomes a whole lot more obvious and relevant if any petty warlord can take out massed knights and dragons just by spamming cannons

Most importantly, Cersei actually winds up halfway earning a place as end villain and also a credible threat to the heroes while also serving the narrative purpose of representing the true end of the traditional fantasy schtick of magic and dragons and noble warriors in shining armour given how irrelevant she just made them all, even if she loses.

that pic with cannon is fucking hilarious. Dude in visor is like "WTF, I can't see shit through these motherfucking slits and now I'm fucking deaf!

With all the resources, research and complicated shit in this fictitious universe, no wander why we could not have this ending, it would fucking rock and the battle of winterfell would be believable.

Spoiler: what episode 3 should have been like

or this, I don't care how unrealistic in "medival times" it would have been, this is the world with fucking magic shit and dragons

 

[Mola Ram]

Longshot prediction: the Iron Throne goes to "the new Prince of Dorne." Plot twist: they never say his name.

 

[Tookie]

I think I'm most bothered by Bronn being stupid enough to think anyone is going to give him Highgarden. He wanted "double" what he was promised so give him The Twins. No one cares about them.

 

[дядя Боря]

Longshot prediction: the Iron Throne goes to "the new Prince of Dorne." Plot twist: they never say his name.

I wish I thought of this two years ago. Make a fan-fic ending with Trump sitting on the iron throne ... then leak it right about now.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I almost forgot, but how did Euron pick up Missandei but somehow completely miss Varys, Greyworm and Tyrion when they were on the same damn ship?

Do you reckon that when he's plating her IRL she actually ever says "You know nothing, Jon Sn-OHHHHHH!!!" like she did in the series 3 episode?

He should divorce her if she doesn't.

 

[Mola Ram]

I think I'm most bothered by Bronn being stupid enough to think anyone is going to give him Highgarden. He wanted "double" what he was promised so give him The Twins. No one cares about them.

That Bronn scene was pure awfulness. The morally grey mercenary became a mustache twirling villain. In retrospect the character should have left the show when he declined to fight at Tyrion's trial. His story was done and everything since was wheel spinning for a popular character.

Also, where the hell was he during the battle the night before? Camped out on a ridge, just watching?

 

[Frazzle]

Is there any chance they just manage to rebuild the night king from the ice shards and he manages to put the whole kingdom out of its misery? Please god.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bl2z98/kit_harrington_warned_us/

Only thing noteworthy about EP4 was Hound's "unfinished business" in King's Landing. At least it'll go out on a meme. The bowl of bowls.

 

[дядя Боря]

Is there any chance they just manage to rebuild the night king from the ice shards and he manages to put the whole kingdom out of its misery? Please god.

Children of the forest can make more. Actually it would a great twist to learn that NK was a decoy and the boss guy who converted everyone is somewhere safe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bl2z98/kit_harrington_warned_us/

Only thing noteworthy about EP4 was Hound's "unfinished business" in King's Landing. At least it'll go out on a meme. The bowl of bowls.

Can you live through more disappointment? Because writers on the roll. Hound will choke on cherry pit and dies before it happens.

 

[Mola Ram]

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bl2z98/kit_harrington_warned_us/

Only thing noteworthy about EP4 was Hound's "unfinished business" in King's Landing. At least it'll go out on a meme. The bowl of bowls.

A toilet bowl, maybe.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Oh, that Reddit link. Disappointing - mask slips, he thinks maybe he can spin it as "I am disappointed to be out of a job this year," realises he can't, backpedals to "epic." Even that is back handed because we all know what else can be epic don't we, boys and girls?

Fails.

Seems that Jon Snurrr knows something after all.

 

[Truthspeaker]

Yup. It is 100% real. Its actually worse than Mass Effect, because there are mods in which you can remove the Star Child entirely, play the Citadel DLC as the true ending, which was edited to remove any reference to the ongoing conflict so it takes place after.

However, this is forever. You can't undo this, this will be it forever. And if Martin doesn't finish the story, this will be the true ending. And my God, will it be horrible.

Martin originally said he wouldn't pass the series on to another author under any circumstances.

I'm sure he might've believed that once, but even if the next two episodes aren't catastrophes, there's no way he does now.

People like Benioff and Weiss are the exact reason Bill Watterson never agreed to license Calvin and Hobbes for film or TV. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people gave nearly a decade of their working lives to this show. Hundreds of millions of dollars has been spent over this time on production. All for it to be squandered in the last three Goddamn seasons.

 

[Absolutego]

Yeah, that’s what pisses me off the most. D&D talk about budgetary and time constraints but those are all self-imposed. Game of Thrones is HBO’s most successful series ever, they were more than willing to throw more time and money at it and keep it going. But D&D are just tired of the show and want to move onto something else.

It’s just so disrespectful to Game of Thrones and all its fans. If the show runners really hate working on it so much they should have just passed it onto someone else instead of giving us this.

That's what gets me, they'd hardly be the first showrunners to hand the series off to someone else after getting tired of it, why they didn't just hand it to Bryan Cogman or anyone else who seriously gave a shit about the show post season 4? It's like their first attempt at writing fanfiction for GRRM's universe was received poorly and they locked into a "fuck it" mindset instead of thinking maybe someone else should take over the project.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Because they're greedy faggots who wanted to get paid and just turned the show into garbage because they didn't give a fuck?

"I hate this shit, but I still want my big paycheck. How long can we stand to do this before the money doesn't work for us anymore?" That was their entire mindset.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Spoiler

Euron's fleet were right off Dragonstone, which is supposed to be a garrisoned island and not a single person noticed a fleet of pirates right outside their doorstep? No one sent a raven to their queen? How about signaling with, I don't know, maybe fire or flags or something that conveys the message "We may be under assault from pirates be advised and exercise caution" like armies did before phones and internet but if you want me to suspend disbelief and think that during a WAR OF CONQUEST you leave your main base of operations unmanned and unprotected because no one reminded Daenerys that the bitch you're going to take out is just a few knots away across the bay and has a crazy pirate with his fleet at her disposal it's not happening. No .

At this point I'm just hatewatching the next two episodes so I can ragepost here and on /tv/