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Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.
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Can't imagine why.
Oh look a chubby man in a bra and panties, how brave.
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I would make a donation to any of his co-panelists' patreons if they asked him if he felt like he'd come home when they walked into Applebee's.
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Ladies and gentlemen. We made it to page 800.
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Two things:
1. She fucked several married men with positions of power and authority in the gaming press/gaming industry who are terrified that she'll cry rape if they don't protect her and don't want to be falsely branded rapists, let alone have their wives leave them and be raped themselves in a divorce proceeding.
2. The rest of the gaming press basically decided to make her the poster girl for SJW indie gaming prior to Gamergate, to the point that they invested so much capital into her when they covered up her previous crimes, that when Gamergate happened, they couldn't throw her to the wolves without admitting to their own corruption.
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Late but anyway, Zoe targets men most women have the dignity to not degrade themselves for , I'm guessing your first thought when looking at obvious rapist "nice" guy isn't "I wonder if my game will get a few more passive clicks if i let him twist my innards like they're a washing machine"
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Probably literally like a loud squealing pig
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Alec Holowka was actually cute, too. Fuck the walking STD who killed him but also fuck Scott Benson for being a spineless cuck for woke points. Who knows, if Scott Benson actually had a pair of balls, and said "we won't make any decision on Alec's involvement with the team until we know both sides" and put the burden of proof on Hoë where it belongs, maybe Alec would still be here. But no, he had to be a spineless, virtue signalling soyboy. I didn't engage much with GamerGate, but I hope this disgusting prostitute gets every thing coming for her for destroying such a beautiful person. F
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First of all, you do realise that I already said nothing would happen to her anyway (open your eyes and maybe you'll see that text)?
On top of this, I'm pretty sure Zoë still lives in Canada. If she doesn't, than you can ignore everything I said. If she still is, I'm pretty sure she's been there long enough to apply for citizenship.
As I already said in my post, second degree murder requires proof that she made it up. Why are you bringing it up again? As for being optimistic, I didn't say they were going to happen, ever. Why are you acting like I did say it? Besides, these two charges are the only two possible ones for her to get. My point for bringing them up was to showcase how serious what she did is. The whole point of my post was to show just how disgusting the situation was, with a little shitty joke at the end. There was never a call to action.
The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything. I did not say I was going to do anything, nor do I want to. Also, in Canada, people can been charged without charges being pressed (there was a girl in Newfoundland who's boyfriend convinced her to kill herself, he's in jail for manslaughter and the police were the ones who pressed the charges). Despite this, as I already said, nothing will be done to her, and I doubt it ever will.
As for law implications, it's already a thing in Canada. You can go to jail there for your posts, it's been that way since the early 2000s.
But congrats on that lawyer pussy. I gotta find me some for my next JO.
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Does anyone remember Fez and how it seemed that Fez got funded in a bit of a weird way? Wouldn't it be a highly convenient way to launder money through trashy indie darlings? I mean, who knows what someone would do if they had intimate knowledge of how certain projects are funded and money moved about, right? Like Swords of Damocles hanging overhead, if any illegality ever happened; it'd be quite a boon for law enforcement to cuff these crackers.
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Sorry massa, I promise I'll refresh more next time sir.
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It's confirmed Quinn lives in LA. Not a lawyer, but we can safely assume that the law won't touch her there.
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Not like this, boys... not like this
Also back to the topic at hand: it's pretty evident that Chelsea merely deactivated her account and that she'll eventually reactivate it, blaming harassment and saying she's having "such a hard time now" and conveniently pointing at her Patreon. My question is... what will become out of Alec? A martyr? A cautionary tale to any feminist soyboys about what their objects of worship can do if given the chance? With his reputation run aground and nobody left to defend it, and supposing he was innocent from all those allegations which is rather likely given the witch's less-than-stellar history, it's actually pretty fucking depressing.
Trying to keep my power level in check, I definitively know firsthand what a false rape accusation does to someone and how someone can die not only but twice as a consequence of it: taking their own life and being practically disowned by friends and family. It's why I find the whole "listen and believe" and #MeToo movement particularly vile and wretched: not because I don't think people are very well capable of emotional and sexual abuse and get away with it for years, but because by the same token an unscrupulous woman (and it will be invariably a woman) can use the same tool to effectively end someone. There are legal means and institutions to tackle real abuse, things have improved in those fronts over the years, yet of course they would rather rely on a Twitter lynch mob at the slightest moment they feel they're starting to become irrelevant.
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Sid Alpha has just posted a video summerising most of the events thus far, is pretty critical of the usual suspects. It's worth a watch.
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Zoe Quinn causes Night In The Woods Cancel Culture Tragedy
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Possible. Very Possible actually. Given the chuckle squad hacks using 2 step verification to social engineer sim jack hacking I think she doesn't want her DM's opened.
However I lean more toward this has taken a turn she did not expect. Sure, normal people could see a suicide from a mentally ill person coming from a mile away. I think Zoe got carried away seeking attention (she even starts her letter saying she's #metooing a guy cause some one else did it and she wants to do it as well) and expected the guy to fight back or claim "yeah this stuff happened but the context of it being sexual abuse is a lie" or apologize like a good beta game dev and forever lick her boot and pay her PR money to make her claim go away and get back in with her indie pals. Instead he saw no hope for the future and killed himself.
Me and a buddy went to the bar and talked about this. I genuinely was thinking how she would weasle out of this because blaming Gamer Gate isn't gonna work and people are memeing Gamer Gate 2 as a joke. The wind in the sail of blaming GG isn't gonna work like it did when she didn't release her game and refused to finish till she got more money.
>I said in an earlier post her only out was claiming that she said at the begining of her #metoo claims she forgave Alec and those that pushed him to kill himself did not listen to her when all she was doing was telling her story..... But turns out she was talking about forgiving someone else, not Alec and I read it wrong.
>She can't say that she didn't want this to happen because she's claiming he was a sexually abusive monster so this is what he deserved if she is telling the truth.
>She can't dance on the grave of her abuser because bullying people online is what her 501-c3 is designed to fight.
>She can't blame Gamer Gate. People are already memeing GG jokes. Even normies know Gamer Gate 2 jokes and will not buy it.
>She can't take responsibility for this, she is the victim and admitting fault will ruin her.
>Even the sister being on her side isn't helping especially since Alec's 2016 post shows him and his sister seem to of always had a toxic relationship where she hated him and she is a full blown feminist. The more the sister says Quinn is the REAL victim, the more it looks bad and like the sister was never on his side and doesn't care about her brother (and she probably doesn't)
>She can't blame people for over reacting, this is exactly what she wanted
>Speaking on him more is gonna piss off some of the indie devs who are legit mourning Alec's death. Some are slowly speaking out a little bit saying there are two sides to the story. I'm sure a lot of them are realizing that Alec was just the begining and the writing is on the wall that they will be next for whatever shitty relationships they had almost a decade ago and their ex decides they are upset with how the bad relationship went.
>Not even Neogaf is buying Zoe's story anymore and thinks Alec was forced into suicide. Only people backing Zoe online are random accounts and ResetEra.... and the majority of ResetEra is disgusted with the dancing on Alec's grave and willingly taking the ban to tell these people they are fucked up and responsible for Alecs suicide.
>The normal Anti-GG people coming back to blame GG is making it worse for Zoe
>She can't even show what her patreon is doing since these claims. Show it goes up she's profiting off getting a mentally ill person to kill himself (against Patreon TOS) show it going down, bad optics and PR that will lead to more dog piling and turning on her.
On top of this, her live in roomate/biz partner/ex/kinda still poly bf Alex Liftshitz just got #MeTooed shortly before Zoe pushed out her story. It looks like a legit story with some damning stuff that would ruin him Alex Liftshitz. It is looking like she did it to take the heat off him. If people keep pushing the Alex Liftshitz #MeToo story and she stands by him while refusing to believe his victims she looks like she is protecting sexual predetors while targeting mentally ill ex's she has grudges against.
The closest we came to thinking of any kind of defense was Zoe blames sexism and tried to spin her actions as society being sexist toward her for Alec killing himself and societies sexism forcing her to feel too weak to bring up unfounded 8 year claims.... but this is weak because what caused Alec to kill himself was people taking Zoes side and turns once Alex's accusers get brought up again.
It's not like before with GG where when her nose is rubbing in her own shit she can cry about being a victim. A person people loved died because of what at best, by her own admission, was attention whoring of a shitty 8 year old relationship that she never claimed she didn't consent to doing the abusive things and being abusive in retrospect.
>She can't say that she didn't want this to happen because she's claiming he was a sexually abusive monster so this is what he deserved if she is telling the truth.
>She can't dance on the grave of her abuser because bullying people online is what her 501-c3 is designed to fight.
>She can't blame Gamer Gate. People are already memeing GG jokes. Even normies know Gamer Gate 2 jokes and will not buy it.
>She can't take responsibility for this, she is the victim and admitting fault will ruin her.
>Even the sister being on her side isn't helping especially since Alec's 2016 post shows him and his sister seem to of always had a toxic relationship where she hated him and she is a full blown feminist. The more the sister says Quinn is the REAL victim, the more it looks bad and like the sister was never on his side and doesn't care about her brother (and she probably doesn't)
>She can't blame people for over reacting, this is exactly what she wanted
>Speaking on him more is gonna piss off some of the indie devs who are legit mourning Alec's death. Some are slowly speaking out a little bit saying there are two sides to the story. I'm sure a lot of them are realizing that Alec was just the begining and the writing is on the wall that they will be next for whatever shitty relationships they had almost a decade ago and their ex decides they are upset with how the bad relationship went.
>Not even Neogaf is buying Zoe's story anymore and thinks Alec was forced into suicide. Only people backing Zoe online are random accounts and ResetEra.... and the majority of ResetEra is disgusted with the dancing on Alec's grave and willingly taking the ban to tell these people they are fucked up and responsible for Alecs suicide.
>The normal Anti-GG people coming back to blame GG is making it worse for Zoe
>She can't even show what her patreon is doing since these claims. Show it goes up she's profiting off getting a mentally ill person to kill himself (against Patreon TOS) show it going down, bad optics and PR that will lead to more dog piling and turning on her.
On top of this, her live in roomate/biz partner/ex/kinda still poly bf Alex Liftshitz just got #MeTooed shortly before Zoe pushed out her story. It looks like a legit story with some damning stuff that would ruin him Alex Liftshitz. It is looking like she did it to take the heat off him. If people keep pushing the Alex Liftshitz #MeToo story and she stands by him while refusing to believe his victims she looks like she is protecting sexual predetors while targeting mentally ill ex's she has grudges against.
The closest we came to thinking of any kind of defense was Zoe blames sexism and tried to spin her actions as society being sexist toward her for Alec killing himself and societies sexism forcing her to feel too weak to bring up unfounded 8 year claims.... but this is weak because what caused Alec to kill himself was people taking Zoes side and turns once Alex's accusers get brought up again.
It's not like before with GG where when her nose is rubbing in her own shit she can cry about being a victim. A person people loved died because of what at best, by her own admission, was attention whoring of a shitty 8 year old relationship that she never claimed she didn't consent to doing the abusive things and being abusive in retrospect.
I don't even think she deleted her account. I think she deactivated. Her personal accounts are all in protected modes. She realized this isn't like the crap before. Until I read Alec's 2016 post where he admited he was going to therapy because he believed a small group of indie people were trying to get him to commit suicide and a family member (most likely the same sister) also piled on, but recognized this was irrational so he sought out professional help. I though Zoe might of felt genuine guilt as well as was covering her own ass. I think that might not be the case anymore and she is scared it could go viral and a criminal court (while unlikely) might try and probe into her if enough attention is brought to her actions.
She's doing to things:
1. Working with her PR shill buddies with sock puppet accounts trying different spin arguments attempts to see what works, which is slowly pissing people off (and not in the Gamer Gate way where she can monetize it) more and drawing more attention to the suicide being Quinns fault and Alec may have not been guilty of anything but being a shitty BF.
2. Waiting for this to blow over so she can go back to doing what she normally does and when people bring up Alec she can say they are a gamer gater and ignore it. But this isn't happening either and Since Jim and Ralph covered it is only getting worse and spread to normies that she is seeking to con.
TL;DR? While contradicting herself is nothing new, she is in a unique situation she doesn't know how to deal with where the people who give her money see the monster she is, and she has no clue how to spin things to make it go away or make her victim bux so she is privating everything and hiding because she realize she seriously fucked up, and if she doesn't turn on her Room mate/ex/bf/biz partner in what seems like legit claims, AT BEST her whole brand is gonna be destroyed if she doesn't crucify her sugar daddy. AT WORSE, if indies stick by them after Alec's suicide it will burn down the whole indie scene with the same SJW tools they used to get where they are.
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Not like this, boys... not like this
Also back to the topic at hand: it's pretty evident that Chelsea merely deactivated her account and that she'll eventually reactivate it, blaming harassment and saying she's having "such a hard time now" and conveniently pointing at her Patreon. My question is... what will become out of Alec? A martyr? A cautionary tale to any feminist soyboys about what their objects of worship can do if given the chance? With his reputation run aground and nobody left to defend it, and supposing he was innocent from all those allegations which is rather likely given the witch's less-than-stellar history, it's actually pretty fucking depressing.
Trying to keep my power level in check, I definitively know firsthand what a false rape accusation does to someone and how someone can die not only but twice as a consequence of it: taking their own life and being practically disowned by friends and family. It's why I find the whole "listen and believe" and #MeToo movement particularly vile and wretched: not because I don't think people are very well capable of emotional and sexual abuse and get away with it for years, but because by the same token an unscrupulous woman (and it will be invariably a woman) can use the same tool to effectively end someone. There are legal means and institutions to tackle real abuse, things have improved in those fronts over the years, yet of course they would rather rely on a Twitter lynch mob at the slightest moment they feel they're starting to become irrelevant.
It's unlikely the headline of this man's life will be something other than "accused of sexual abuse and killed himself." Remember that your average media type knows what Gamergate is but never read the Zoepost. This is because these people control the narrative, and they've been working overtime to bury this dude under their own psychotic accusations and shit like "we will never know if its true but it sounds like something he would do."
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Lol no. Never. That never happens to people like her.
Turns out Alec wasn't so irrational in thinking these people wanted him to kill himself.