TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[Allanon]

If a lawyer losing his license to practice is called "disbarring", is a judge losing his license to practice called "disrobing"?

No it's impeachment - which I gather is almost impossible - or retirement. Judges don't really get punished or messed with, they just get appealed or overruled.

I'd understand the sentiment, to be sure, but those are inherently things he does off the clock.


I agree, but there's still something to be said about not giving any quarter for damaging scrutiny. The missed deadline hurt Ty, but it didn't hurt Ty.

Basically it's more of an image issue than anything else. Thus, I don't really agree with the idea that Vic should suddenly be hot with Ty. It sucks how it went, but Ty got pretty railroaded there. Whether or not it's actually able to be appealed, it ultimately was a result of Chupp's discretion, rather than Ty failing. He met his burden, Chupp just raised the burden higher than it's meant to be.

 

[RogerSmith77]

I maintain that the missed deadline doesn't actually matter all that much, because even the amended petition lacked what Chupp arbitrarily decided it needed. At best, maybe he wouldn't have outright dismissed Jaime's involvement, but that seems unlikely given he just dismissed the idea of anyone but Ron and Monica being involved in conspiracy, and the crux of Jaime's involvement is the conspiracy. It's an excuse for people to blame Ty over, but transcripts so far seem to indicate Chupp made sweeping decisions and demanded a higher standard of evidence than he should have.

I agree wholeheartedly that Chupp was gonna be Chupp no matter what Ty presented. Ty could have been the bastard child of Atticus Finch, Perry Mason, Matlock and Phoenix Wright combined and the outcome yesterday would have still been the same. Chupp is a joke of a judge and there's no changing that especially when we look at the previous Texas Supreme Court opinions people have posted above. In light of that, I''m not concerned about what Chupp thinks, but rather what a panel of appellate judges are going to think when they consider the record. And unfortunately, when you do stuff like miss deadlines, that gives the appellate court room to excuse some of Chupp's fuck-ups by saying he acted within his "discretion." The appellate court might look at the record and say "Yeah, we agree that the stuff in the amended petition would've been sufficient for TCPA, but it was filed outside the agreed upon deadline imposed and therefore it was ultimately within the trial court's discretion to consider it. We find that the trial court did not abuse its discretion."

 

[1234567890abc]

As much as I am enjoying how everyone is reacting to the dismissals at the hearing. This John Kelly guy has been non-stop asshurt over Nick not wanting to do a stream with him he has now gone full #kickvic and decided to do a gloating/winning stream about all this.

He's a lolcow and it's related so I thought others might wanna laugh at him with me

 

[Scuttle]

Seems almost a certainty that this will go to appeals, then.

There's been so many amendments that I can't actually tell with certainty what was actually valid evidence at yesterday's hearing.

Regardless of what the discarded amendments had, Chupp's seemingly astronomical standard is grounds to appeal alone. Doubt Marchi is out of the woods yet.

To be fair to Ty, if Chupp was being so arbitrary and acting upon his own moral compass than the letter of the law, it's no surprise that Ty couldn't make a coherent argument.

 

[Urbanmech]

As much as I am enjoying how everyone is reacting to the dismissals at the hearing. This John Kelly guy has been non-stop asshurt over Nick not wanting to do a stream with him he has now gone full #kickvic and decided to do a gloating/winning stream about all this.

He's a lolcow and it's related so I thought others might wanna laugh at him with me

Just laugh at him when Funi goes down in flames due to the Monster KickVic made? I mean they can gloat and dance all they want the ISWV guys will get them all back next summer when they attach those Funileaks to the Official Olympic Hashtag, consider the contents of those leaks and Goku being an Olympic Ambassador.

 

[Senor Gatin]

As much as I am enjoying how everyone is reacting to the dismissals at the hearing. This John Kelly guy has been non-stop asshurt over Nick not wanting to do a stream with him he has now gone full #kickvic and decided to do a gloating/winning stream about all this.

He's a lolcow and it's related so I thought others might wanna laugh at him with me

Clearly someone needs their dose of SO for that sore ass lol

 

[Reverend]

Twitter was a bigger mistake than Discord.

People don't realize Discord is simply IRC with .gifs and a VOIP client. Same shit we had before only with a prettier skin.

 

[SpiralStars]

As Vic, I wouldn't be asking him to spend every hour working at the job . However, I would be pretty irritated if I found out my lawyer was missing deadlines and needing to file amended filings to compensate for missing said deadlines when he is simultaneously shooting the shit and meming with people on twitter.

As someone else said above, it wouldn't have mattered in the end as far as Chupp was concerned, but Ty would at least be going into appeal with a much better record for the COA to consider.

Do we even know the lateness was related to Ty's spent hours. They could have been late because employee X thought they compiled the report but didn't convert it to the correct format. They went away for the weekend. Employee Y worked on converting it but didn't know what they were doing. You can still blame BHBH or maybe Ty specifically but Ty's time may have had nothing to do with it. We don't know the details. But In the last days I imagine there's a good bet Ty has little to do with it and it's in staff's hands for the most part.

 

[SpiceWeasel21]

I maintain that the missed deadline doesn't actually matter all that much

Filing things late, withdrawing things at the 11th hour, the notary stamp. While I absolutely believe they need to appeal everything they can, and they have good cause to do so because some of this ruling makes no damn sense, BHBH committed some unforced errors that seem rather unbecoming of a firm that is purported to have an extensive roster of high-dollar clients.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Vic will have to pay for her lawyer. It's part of the TCPA.

But she is still fucked. So is Monica. They will end up quietly Asteriosed when its time to renew their contracts with Funimation.

I thought they’d be fine because Sabat.

You don't keep around employees that get you dragged into a lawsuit.

Again, it seems the employees are Sabat and his friends. Sometimes the bad guy wins and the canon ending is a downer.

Asterios got fucked because NY Anti-SLAPP laws are significantly weaker than TX's, so because his case went to trial, he had to take on personal debt to pay all lawyer fees+costs out of his pocket even though he won (plus he lost his job as a result, which doubly hurts).

Pending appeal, Marchi will have all her legal costs paid by Vic, plus court-imposed sanctions that will probably be determined at a separate hearing. The same goes for any dismissed-at-pretrial charge (so Toye TI, Monica TI, Funi TI..etc are all counted as separate charges each with their own sanction). If the GoFundMe runs out, he will still owe money to Ty as part of whatever legal representation agreement.

Even if Vic wins on his remaining charges, he could still end up losing money on the whole thing, especially if he appeals and fails (because appeals will add even more billable hours etc).

TL;DR: Vic could be in for a world of hurt, even if he wins on whatever remains of his cases.

EDIT:

Which is why Vic will likely never be hired by a major anime company again. From their perspective, he's the one who has a history of suing his employers.

Don’t you understand why I mention Vic needing to be on suicide watch? He was prescribed antidespressants, his reputation is in tatters, he might be driven into financial ruin, and he’ll be forced to watch as his fans abandon him and his career suffers a Joseph Stalin. And then croc tears (and maybe actual tears) that have been months in the making.

I really doubt any of the VAs will get any blowback.

Sony doesn't micromanage stuff and Funimation is exceptional.

You also forgot: Toei ain’t losing Yen.

Twitter isn't reality but companies bending the knee to Twitter Mobs is reality. It's why what was done even off twitter had any effect. The core problem is companies bending the knee to these mobs. Until they stop, twitter is relevant.

Here’s the thing. SJWs know this, and companies are too obsessed with image and PR to tell them to fuck off or ignore them. And remember: Vic is just one of many they’re targeting. As for the dub game...remember Prison School? At least 4Kids was hilariously bad?

Just laugh at him when Funi goes down in flames due to the Monster KickVic made? I mean they can gloat and dance all they want the ISWV guys will get them all back next summer when they attach those Funileaks to the Official Olympic Hashtag, consider the contents of those leaks and Goku being an Olympic Ambassador.

Except Japan doesn’t give a shit about us and they’ll just use Nozawa for any character work. Sean might be pissed.

 

[Allanon]

Filing things late, withdrawing things at the 11th hour, the notary stamp. While I absolutely believe they need to appeal everything they can, and they have good cause to do so because some of this ruling makes no damn sense, BHBH committed some unforced errors that seem rather unbecoming of a firm that is purported to have an extensive roster of high-dollar clients.

They did commit some errors for whatever reason that may be, but had Chupp not ruled the way he did, no one but maybe kickvic would really care that much about them. Even with the ruling as it was, their errors had no real impact on the decision, because the decision came from bizarre reasoning instead of things like sanctions for late filing/notary stamp issues.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

All this stuff coming out about Chupp is...
...interesting.
And I'm not sure why Marchi is popping off over being ejected from the case for now. If Ty decides to appeal which I'm pretty sure he will do, her ass can get thrown right back in. Maybe she should save that champagne bottle for after the appeal rulings.

 

[RogerSmith77]

The outcome of the hearing aside, it sure would've been sweet had everything worked out yesterday and Chupp ruled in the opposite fashion. The meltdown law twitter would have been having and the aneurysm the bald headed buffoon would have going through and the constant spin from the usual suspects would've been hilarious.

 

[Allanon]

The outcome of the hearing aside, it sure would've been sweet had everything worked out yesterday and Chupp ruled in the opposite fashion. The meltdown law twitter would have been having and the aneurysm the bald headed buffoon would have going through and the constant spin from the usual suspects would've been hilarious.

if Chupp had ruled for the immediate execution of all the defendants, lawtwitter would be screaming about how Chupp is an incompetent white dude and no one should be smug about this, because this is such an OBVIOUS appeal case. That's been predicted for months. I believe Nick also said that if things went this way (or worse, with a complete dismissal), they planned on appealing anyway. Basically, anyone expecting the hearing to be final and not involve appeal regardless of the decision was being overly optimistic.

 

[Apocalypse]

What up guys. Been busy yesterday, and finally got around to see whats been going on. It seems it hasn't been favorable for ISWV. But from what I'm seeing, it's not over yet. Seems to be at a 60/40 phase, and there are appeals. It's rather disappointing to see some people go crazy, give up instantly, or even switch sides from this hearing, but I guess that's what separates the faggots, from the cooler heads. Keep in mind there are people who lost badly at first in cases, but later won through appeals. Not saying it's guaranteed here, but there's hope, and a chance. Again, this isn't over. There's also defamation, and civil conspiracy as well. Some are saying those will be dismissed by the Judge as well, but honestly, who knows, right? We might be suprised. Don't listen to Law Twitter, or some other trolling faggots. Keep cool, and enjoy your life, and everything will go the way if it's intended that way by forces beyond our control. Enjoy your weekend, Kiwi. Also, UFC 242 tonight bitches, GET HYPED!

 

[NateHewspapers]

Who the fuck is John Michael Kelly and why does he hate Nick so much? I've heard Nick mention him a few times but it's been vague. A look at his twitter and youtube gives me the impression of a particularly brain damaged 4chan edgelord trying to hug the nuts of IBS and nerd culture war drama.

edit: can barely put up with this guy to make fun of him, this is what the average dunning-kruger retard on 4/8chan sounds like behind the keyboard. Embarrassing.

 

[Rotollo]

Who the fuck is John Michael Kelly and why does he hate Nick so much? I've heard Nick mention him a few times but it's been vague. A look at his twitter and youtube gives me the impression of a particularly brain damaged 4chan edgelord trying to hug the nuts of IBS and nerd culture war drama.

Old GG sperg from 8chan I believe

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Sounds like an excellent way to alienate her fans. You know. The ones that go to cons to buy her autographs. Where they make all their money.

She has enough soyboys that'll keep supporting her because she voices their waifus.

...until she lets the cat out of the bag and reveals that she's had nothing but unmitigated contempt for her fanbase. Can't wait for one of her "close" "family members" to leak that tape.

All this stuff coming out about Chupp is...
...interesting.
And I'm not sure why Marchi is popping off over being ejected from the case for now. If Ty decides to appeal which I'm pretty sure he will do, her ass can get thrown right back in. Maybe she should save that champagne bottle for after the appeal rulings.

Dunno if she's celebrating, but I don't use Twitter as such and only saw that she said something to the effect of "The trash... hath been taken out."

Which I agree with-- although Rial, Toye, and Funimation may still be sticking around, so obviously all the trash hasn't been taken out.

(That's some basic girl stuff right there-- was she just so pleased with herself that she had to drawl that tweet that could only ever become witty fodder against her?)

 

[Random Internet Person]

She has enough soyboys that'll keep supporting her because she voices their waifus.

...until she lets the cat out of the bag and reveals that she's had nothing but unmitigated contempt for her fanbase. Can't wait for one of her "close" "family members" to leak that tape.



Dunno if she's celebrating, but I don't use Twitter as such and only saw that she said something to the effect of "The trash... hath been taken out."

Which I agree with-- although Rial, Toye, and Funimation may still be sticking around, so obviously all the trash hasn't been taken out.

(That's some basic girl stuff right there-- was she just so pleased with herself that she had to drawl that tweet that could only ever become witty fodder against her?)

It’s been long established that these people are still in a high school like mindset, so don’t be surprised that Jamie’s on some basic bitch shit.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

Hoes be fighting over insurance appraisals.

And that's EXACTLY how this lawyer would have filed it as.