Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[c6h1206]

she states she has had g6 for 14 days. sensors last for 10 days. yet she is randomly having her sister replace a 4-day old sensor. how very Christian of her throwing a 100$ sensor in the trash just to make a video. and put it in your arm you twat. maybe join a Dexcom FB group? Sorry CF does not excuse people being wasteful to make videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v843sKgQ1w

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Granted, going full SFX with appliques and prosthetics is probably a little out of the way even for munchies, but I'm guessing it's not the craziest thing anyone's done for the sake of attention.

I mean, in not-batshit-munchie world, sticking a tube to your chest with spirit gum is decidedly less crazy than actually getting a tube threaded directly into your heart for a factitious complaint.

 

[TonySoprano]

Morgan was quiet for awhile, but now she's make to her usual run on sentences. Now having problems peeing blood and dementia.


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I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert on the female anatomy but I'm pretty sure women pee out of a completely different hole so why is she mentioning her period with regards to her pee... asking for a friend

 

[Spooniest spoon]

I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert on the female anatomy but I'm pretty sure women pee out of a completely different hole so why is she mentioning her period with regards to her pee... asking for a friend

Quite common, particularly if you're not using internal sanitary products like a tampon or cup. The blood clots won't be coming from urethra but can be "rinsed" away.

It's way TMI.

 

[Astyanax Skamandrios]

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It's to make the person's face the subject of the mugshot, no distractions from clothing or "prejudice" by seeing the person in a prison jumpsuit.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Spoiler: sperging

What? I've never heard of it blocking calcium; that's just also usually prescribed with it for joint disorders. Methotrexate blocks folate in the body, which is why your hair falls out. It will give anemia very quickly. They prescribe folic acid to conpensate.

Yeah it reduces the bodies ability to absorb calcium it's a separate issue from folate though.

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With the anemia thing I think it needs to be kept in mind that patients on methotrexate have to get regular blood tests too and this can be as regular as every 2 weeks especially at the start of treatment. That will for sure cause anemia.

In recentish books I’ve read on Crohns, they seem to agree that methotrexate is only given after trying a bunch of other drugs first. It’s usually in the same category as thalidomide, not quite efficient enough for first line.

And wouldn’t anabolic steroids be quite “good” for munchies trying to fuck themselves up? They even have the possibility of a visible side effect (lol moonface). Ah.... did I just answer my own question?

I can't see moon face getting a whole load of clicks on Instagram though. Maybe if they embrace the crazy appetite you get from steroids with a muckbang

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Yeah it reduces the bodies ability to absorb calcium it's a separate issue from folate though.

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With the anemia thing I think it needs to be kept in mind that patients on methotrexate have to get regular blood tests too and this can be as regular as every 2 weeks especially at the start of treatment. That will for sure cause anemia.


I can't see moon face getting a whole load of clicks on Instagram though. Maybe if they embrace the crazy appetite you get from steroids with a muckbang

That KickingGeese person who reacts to all of ALR's videos has MS and when she was in the hospital a few months ago she was documenting her solu-medrol binges on social media. I don't find her particularly entertaining but I thought that was pretty funny. Of course, like a good lolcow, she later tied it into her woo-woo Starch Solution diet that promises to help people "beat MS" and she admits she doesn't take her medication regularly, and vapes, and doesn't do her PT... And yet harps on fatties for taking their health for granted.

 

[TonySoprano]

That KickingGeese person who reacts to all of ALR's videos has MS and when she was in the hospital a few months ago she was documenting her solu-medrol binges on social media. I don't find her particularly entertaining but I thought that was pretty funny. Of course, like a good lolcow, she later tied it into her woo-woo Starch Solution diet that promises to help people "beat MS" and she admits she doesn't take her medication regularly, and vapes, and doesn't do her PT... And yet harps on fatties for taking their health for granted.

It's like when people bitch at smokers and drug users etc about the money they cost the system.

It's actually healthy people that cost the most, considering they live much longer than the obese smoking drug addicts that they nag, but still have to die.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

It's like when people bitch at smokers and drug users etc about the money they cost the system.

It's actually healthy people that cost the most, considering they live much longer than the obese smoking drug addicts that they nag, but still have to die.

Obese people can get expensive if they have type 2 diabetes. Alcoholics get very expensive if they manage to catch necrotizing pancreatitis but that's pretty rare. Smokers live fast, die young and don't really affect healthcare costs that much. In fact they're probably a net benefit to the system since insurance companies can charge them more.

Meanwhile nursing home cost per individual are going to be like six figures annually pretty soon and some of these patients with Alzheimer's that are otherwise generally healthy can live for 15+ years.

 

[Johnny-Elaine]

I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert on the female anatomy but I'm pretty sure women pee out of a completely different hole so why is she mentioning her period with regards to her pee... asking for a friend

I think she was more clarifying about her period so that people don't think shes just having a period?

 

[TonySoprano]

Obese people can get expensive if they have type 2 diabetes. Alcoholics get very expensive if they manage to catch necrotizing pancreatitis but that's pretty rare. Smokers live fast, die young and don't really affect healthcare costs that much. In fact they're probably a net benefit to the system since insurance companies can charge them more.

Meanwhile nursing home cost per individual are going to be like six figures annually pretty soon and some of these patients with Alzheimer's that are otherwise generally healthy can live for 15+ years.

A smoker wrote an article in a local paper here a while ago because they were sick of being told how much money they were costing the tax payer. He compared all the different illnesses that commonly come with old age like osteoporosis and different kinds of dementia related issues... They cost more to treat than the average costs of most lung and kidney cancers combined!

 

[Occam's Epilady]

RE: Jessi and her panhandling, has anyone ever requested any sort of receipts? Literally or figuratively. That's a huge amount of money to raise without any sort of end in sight. She claims she's been dying for ages, but randomly springs up and starts playing the violin or whatever. Eventually people like this get called out, it seems.

I've never seen anyone really casting doubt on her, or requesting any sort of receipts! She did post photos of her traveling to Kansas, which is what I believe they spent the bulk of the money on. I have no trouble believing that she actually spent the GFM money on medical care; it's more that she really should have spent it on mental health treatment.

She's an interesting subject because she's not part of the circle of typical subjects here -- she seems to have had a life outside of her "illnesses" for long enough that she has actual irl friends and real engagement on her pages (not just the asspat circlejerk of some sickstagrams). I also don't doubt that she has something genuinely troubling her as far as her digestive system, and may very well have chronic fatigue syndrome. She writes well, she seems to be very in tune with her service dog, and she's been admirably open and informative about her mental health struggles. And a lot of what she posts seems genuinely intended to educate about and advocate for the disabled. Overall, before this spring (ish?) her page wasn't bad at all. But something happened, she completely bought into this story of how she's dying, and she went totally over the top. It will be interesting to see where her account goes in the future, because I would imagine that she blew her load going straight to "Jessi is dying." I can't imagine her friends coughing up another $30k for a "Jessi is Dying Again, Promise it's Totally Real This Time Guys" campaign.

Edit: I got curious about where she could have gone in Kansas. There were only a few clues, but fortunately there aren't many Wichita clinics that fit the description from the GFM.



Really, there's only one: The Biologix Center for Optimum Health (https://biologixcenter.com), which costs $10k for a standard treatment course and does not accept insurance because, as they themselves explain, insurance companies won't cover whatever whackadoodle "treatments" they provide.



If you're thinking that the Biologix Center for Optimum Health may be legitimate, you should know that the top item on the list of conditions they treat is chronic Lyme. So yeah, Dying Jessi was somehow too medically complex for UCSF and Stanford; the place she made encouraging progress and got a bunch of new diagnoses was the Rural Wichita Center for Junk Medicine.

 

[GJtube Leroy]

@Kate Farms Shill ,could you possibly repost your munchie book recommendations from earlier in the thread?

 

[thirsttrap12345]

And evidently her Medicare (edit: MedicAID) keeps getting cancelled? I don't know much about the practicalities of Medicare (dammit MedicAID) eligibility; anybody know why this would happen?

Usually this happens bc people don’t fill out the paperwork on time. Depending on your state this has to be kept up to date as often as quarterly, and if you move around even once during that period and your mail doesn’t follow you, well forget it. BUT. Most people dependent on Medicaid don’t let it lapse, and are more on top of it than even Medicaid is. It also can get reinstated if it truly was a paperwork mishap.

My Theory: What I suspect is the problem here is her assets, bc money in the bank or any checks or money in your name or spouses name DO count against you past a certain amount. (For ex in my state you cannot have more than $2k in cash on hand, and anything over $100 “gifted” must be reported.) I feel like for a couple that is “homeless” they get along fairly well - at least if the dog is any indication (he’s very healthy and looks fed on a high quality diet etc.)

What does she claim the methotrexate supposedly for, RA?

She never explicitly says. Always vague. At one point she claimed having colitis once (like millions of other people) so was hashtagging IBD. Recently it’s been a sudden Crohn’s dx but I truly don’t believe that. I believe she had an episode of colitis once and held onto it with a death grip and kept telling the story to any doctor that would listen. Also, she mentions an infusion every 8 weeks- is that really a Crohn’s schedule for a biologic or just something basic like an iron infusion?

Really, there's only one: The Biologix Center for Optimum Health (https://biologixcenter.com), which costs $10k for a standard treatment course and does not accept insurance because, as they themselves explain, insurance companies won't cover whatever whackadoodle "treatments" they provide.

Omg thank you for doing the work on this. I tried googling to find where she was but my powers were not at full capacity and I failed. Just total bullshit. If she was actually dying that place wouldn’t have even accepted her as a patient hello lawsuit.

 

[TonySoprano]

Usually this happens bc people don’t fill out the paperwork on time. Depending on your state this has to be kept up to date as often as quarterly, and if you move around even once during that period and your mail doesn’t follow you, well forget it. BUT. Most people dependent on Medicaid don’t let it lapse, and are more on top of it than even Medicaid is. It also can get reinstated if it truly was a paperwork mishap.

My Theory: What I suspect is the problem here is her assets, bc money in the bank or any checks or money in your name or spouses name DO count against you past a certain amount. (For ex in my state you cannot have more than $2k in cash on hand, and anything over $100 “gifted” must be reported.) I feel like for a couple that is “homeless” they get along fairly well - at least if the dog is any indication (he’s very healthy and looks fed on a high quality diet etc.)



She never explicitly says. Always vague. At one point she claimed having colitis once (like millions of other people) so was hashtagging IBD. Recently it’s been a sudden Crohn’s dx but I truly don’t believe that. I believe she had an episode of colitis once and held onto it with a death grip and kept telling the story to any doctor that would listen. Also, she mentions an infusion every 8 weeks- is that really a Crohn’s schedule for a biologic or just something basic like an iron infusion?




Omg thank you for doing the work on this. I tried googling to find where she was but my powers were not at full capacity and I failed. Just total bullshit. If she was actually dying that place wouldn’t have even accepted her as a patient hello lawsuit.

You would not receive infusions for Crohn's every 8 weeks either way..

Firstly, infusions would usually only be given if all other treatments had failed... And even if that wasn't the case, in order to receive infusions every 8 weeks she would have had to have built up to that over time... Starting out like one every two weeks then one every four weeks then six etc etc... Building up to eight weeks. So I'm sure you'd have heard about these infusions long ago were that the case.

 

[StasisOne]

Quite common, particularly if you're not using internal sanitary products like a tampon or cup. The blood clots won't be coming from urethra but can be "rinsed" away.

It's way TMI.

She even included pictures... she's so gross when it comes to trying to score sympathy

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

@Kate Farms Shill ,could you possibly repost your munchie book recommendations from earlier in the thread?

Fasting Girls, highly recommended. There's another one out on NYU Press called From Fasting Saints to Anorexic Girls that's also fairly interesting. Not as readable IMO, but informative. I think it's out of print now. Consumptive Chic by Carolyn Day is pretty decent, too. It's specifically about the trend of women (and effeminate men) starving themselves and ingesting lead and arsenic to make themselves look tubercular. That one's really recent, within the last two years. Playing Sick? by Marc Feldmen is a good one for the general psychology behind factitious disorders and malingering, not so much history. He also just wrote a new one called Dying to be Ill but I've not gotten a chance to read it yet. I can't vouch for it, but it has good reviews.

For a really readable medical history/death-by-starvation book, Starvation Heights by Gregg Olsen is fucking ridiculous. It's about a woman, Linda Hazzard, who claimed to be a doctor despite no medical credentials and starved her wealthy patients to death at her sanitarium. She went to prison for it after killing like 30 people, served her time, then managed to re-open her clinic and do exactly the same thing over again. Finally she tried to prove her protocol of no food, vigorous exercise, regular beatings, and daily enemas did not kill her patients by following it herself. Spoiler: she died of starvation.

Whatever you do, don't read Sickened by Julie Gregory. That book is a fucking shit show and it's the first google hit when you search "munchausen syndrome book." She might as well have titled it "feel bad for me now." She claims it's about MbP but it's about how her dysfunctional family like totally was the worst, guys, and her brother is a big dumb idiot who doesn't remember anything so don't ask him about it because he'll say it never happened. Uh huh. I'm sure the Oprah's Book Club set loved it. It reads like A Child Called It and A Million Little Pieces and every other melodramatic volume of emotional vomit that she promoted.

/historian sperging about books.

women's medical history from days of yore:

Good news! they're available for free online.

Every Man his Own Physician is one of the earliest examples in the US, 1767. Not specific to women's issues but worth a gander.
The American Frugal Housewife, 1835.
Health Hints to Women, 1875.
Fat and Blood, and How to Make Them, 1877
Women's Medical Companion, 1880.
Talks Upon Practical Subjects was basically Our Bodies, Ourselves for the 1890s.
Bicycling and Health for Women, 1890. (bicycling was one of the big women's rights events of the 19th century, led to practical dress reform and recreation outside the home, a lot of them joined cycling clubs that led them to participate in other women's rights movements like suffrage)
Ladies' Home Calisthenics, 1890
Hysteria and Neurasthenia, 1905 has some great photos in it.
What a Young Wife Ought to Know, 1905
And my personal favorite Premature Burial and How it May Be Prevented, 1905.

And to that I'll add the one I posted on Reddit a few weeks ago after reading all summer:

(and just FYI it's Howard Markel, not Merkel)

 

[WarpedTourWasFun]

Oh good. I'm not the only one who can't stand "Sickened". I remember reading a while ago that several of her family members had come forward and said a lot of it was exaggerated or just flat out made up.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Oh good. I'm not the only one who can't stand "Sickened". I remember reading a while ago that several of her family members had come forward and said a lot of it was exaggerated or just flat out made up.

Sickened was one of the most egregious exercises in "misery porn" I've ever read. Even if it's true, most of it was just about how her white trash family was white trash and about living in the middle of fucking nowhere. She barely even mentions the medical crap. The only thing I can even remember about her medical stories was the eating matchsticks thing. And that's been an old wives' tale for generations – Vietnam vets will tell you they were encouraged to eat the matches from their MREs if they didn't smoke, because the sulfur was supposed to keep the mosquitoes away (pro tip: it doesn't). Her mom might have told her to eat them for that reason.

Not to mention a lot of kids eat them just because they're salty and kind of eggy and kids are dumb.

edit: for those who haven't read it, she claims her mother would feed her matches:
“You looking for the suckers, honey? Here, let me get ’em for you.”

Mom pulls out a new book of matches and carefully bends back the cover to expose two fresh red rows of the minipops she’s been giving me for as long as I can remember. My mouth waters when I see their shimmery crimson tips. The first one is always the best, and I pluck it out and get it fast on my tongue, waiting for the metallic zolt to rush my taste buds. Once the hardest layer dissolves, I flip the match against the side of my teeth and crunch the softer bits off the stick, spitting the white flimsy paper to the floor, swallowing the rest. One by one, I devour the pack, trying to finish it off for Mom. Mom pulls out a hairbrush and strokes my long blond hair; my crown bobs toward her with each pull of the brush. She smiles softly at me with a sucker in my mouth as Dad clenches the wheel, lost in thought, driving us as fast and as far away as he can from the crafty antics of a madwoman named Madge.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

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I can recommend Dr. Marc Feldman. He knows his stuff and I think all of his books are accessible to a lay audience.