Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I think it may have been a mistake to let Raimi direct this scene.
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Dom Cruise said:
Honestly, the reality is starting to sink that there's a new Star Wars movie that I don't want to even see in theaters and it's really depressing me.
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When I saw that the run time is well over two hours, I presently question whether it's worth seeing Episode IX in any form. Maybe I will, but my present mood is that I could spend those two hours doing anything else that's more productive or beneficial, even if I want to see for myself just how far beyond dumpster fire everything turns out (even after spoilers).

To answer the question about how long-time SW fans feel about the movie and the state of the franchise under Disney as a whole: This one feels indifference. I'm not going to let Disney's content ruin what I;ve enjoyed of legacy/Lucas-era content. I don't even feel like the ST is something to be hated because of how unimpressive and underwhelming it's been. I'd rather shrug it off as headcanon or legends-tier events.
 
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Kiwi Lime Pie said:
When I saw that the run time is well over two hours, I presently question whether it's worth seeing Episode IX in any form. Maybe I will, but my present mood is that I could spend those two hours doing anything else that's more productive or beneficial, even if I want to see for myself just how far beyond dumpster fire everything turns out (even after spoilers).

To answer the question about how long-time SW fans feel about the movie and the state of the franchise under Disney as a whole: This one feels indifference. I'm not going to let Disney's content ruin what I;ve enjoyed of legacy/Lucas-era content. I don't even feel like the ST is something to be hated because of how unimpressive and underwhelming it's been. I'd rather shrug it off as headcanon or legends-tier events.
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It's just that all this talk of Star Wars made me think back to when I was a kid and how excited I was to see Return of The Jedi back during the special edition re-releases.

I just wish I could have that feeling at least one last time again, I actually thought I really didn't care that much about Star Wars anymore, but thinking back to what it was like for me as a kid made me realize what has been lost.
 
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Pol Pots Pooter said:
Honestly, if they'd taken a sideways glance at TCW they might have been able to work something not terrible out. Palpatine becomes a Sith Spectre and possesses a clone body of himself. He discovered the location of Mortis, and worked out some scheme to achieve apotheosis and become an avatar of the Dark Side, itself.

Rey, Kylo, and Luke's Force ghost confront him, and manage to stop him but at the cost of Rey's and Kylo's lives. Those three go on to become the next manifestation of the Father, Son, and Daughter, and therefore restore balance to the Force. The slate wiped completely clean -- Jedi, Sith, all of them -- the next generation of Force-sensitives are free to learn and grow, and form new Force-sensitive orders.

There was quite a bit. By the time the rat ate Lucasfilm, enough PT BTS information had come out and the Plinkett reviews made it common knowledge among fans, the PT's big failing was no one had any sort of moderating influence on Lucas. ANH and ESB were so good because Lucas collaborated with a team of extremely talented filmmakers, and RotJ was the first sign of trouble when Lucas was given more creative control over his own film. The hopes were Disney would exercise some level of executive control and force him to collaborate.
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Anyone ekse dislike TCW? I mean i see as a mix-bag (i watched some of it and liked some of what i saw) but i dislike how it was higher-tiered that better stuff and contracdicted so much of other Clone Wars-era material which opens plots hole that idits like HelloGreedo used to push the idea the EU was riddled with plot-holes, TCW just caused too many headaches
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
I really dislike the idea that Palpatine created Anakin. It just makes the film universe seem smaller, because nothing can be organic, it must be some overly convoluted plot by another character.
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However it means that if Kylo used Sith rape sex on Rey NotveryMysterio when he revived her and made a baby..that kid is gonna be the Ivan Drago of Force users, he got the Special Skywalker semen..and Rey has Palps super Sith Eggs.
 
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Zaryiu said:
Anyone ekse dislike TCW? I mean i see as a mix-bag (i watched some of it and liked some of what i saw) but i dislike how it was higher-tiered that better stuff and contracdicted so much of other Clone Wars-era material which opens plots hole that idits like HelloGreedo used to push the idea the EU was riddled with plot-holes, TCW just caused too many headaches
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The Clone Wars is a competently told story in its later phases, but it still strikes me as fanfic in all the ways that matter. I don't care if Darth Maul has a well written arc because surviving being cut in half for YEARS due to "pure hate" is fucking retarded.

Oh, and for the amount of money Lucasfilm put into it I know they could have found a better art style than "Jak and Daxter cinematic".
 
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The Shadow said:
The Clone Wars is a competently told story in its later phases, but it still strikes me as fanfic. I don't care if Darth Maul has a well written arc because surviving being cut in half for YEARS due to "pure hate" is fucking exceptional.
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You can blame Star Wars Tales #9 story "Resurrection" in which a doppelganger is used by non-Sith darsiders to try to kill Vader for planting the seed of Maul actually being brought back later on
 
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Zaryiu said:
Anyone ekse dislike TCW? I mean i see as a mix-bag (i watched some of it and liked some of what i saw) but i dislike how it was higher-tiered that better stuff and contracdicted so much of other Clone Wars-era material which opens plots hole that idits like HelloGreedo used to push the idea the EU was riddled with plot-holes, TCW just caused too many headaches
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The movie and most of the first season is crap to me. Though the rest was okay though, Strangely this is the best adaption I've seen of Padame amidala so if anyone is a fan of her, watch the episodes that focus on her.

The Shadow said:
The Clone Wars is a competently told story in its later phases, but it still strikes me as fanfic in all the ways that matter. I don't care if Darth Maul has a well written arc because surviving being cut in half for YEARS due to "pure hate" is fucking exceptional.
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Yeah I don't like Darth Maul being back alive and I'm no fan of Savage Opress.
 
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This thread is way too fast...

PeeveTheSheev said:
- Rey finds the Goddamn stupid Wayfinder MacGuffin that the Dagger MacGuffin pointed towards and Kylo Ren promptly destroys it
- So the whole movie up to this point was pointless.
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Laughed out loud. They didn't learn a goddamned thing from Canto Bight.

PeeveTheSheev said:
- Short montage of Star Destroyers falling out of the sky over Endor, Cloud City, and Jakku (DO YOU 'MEMBER?!)
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But why?
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- Poe makes a pass at Sorry Bitch, gets rejected
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Of course he gets rejected. We can't have STRONK FAHMALES hook up with TOXIC NEANDERTHAL MALES, can we.

PeeveTheSheev said:
- Maz Kanata aka Yellow Yoda gives Chewbacca a medal ('MEMBER CHEWIE NOT GETTING ONE?) - no one else gets one though.
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Not to be a dick, but what for? What did Chewie do in the movie or the entire trilogy. He was a glorified cab driver throughout the movies, cause neither JarJar nor Ruin respect him the slightest.

linchan said:
It has an 88 on rotten tomatoes for audiences. How many of them are doing it to spite critics I wonder?
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Is it just me, or does something seem really fishy about this rotten tomatoes score? 88% audience approval. Now I know they've rigged the entire system, but even after that, it seems suspiciously high.
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The rating system is severely flawed by design.
Currently, in order to be counted regularly, you need to have a verified ticket to the movie. Technically, that's a smart thing to prevent review bombing by people who haven't seen it - but it is also very flawed in this case.

With a normal movie, you get people who watch it and either like or dislike it. The quality of the movie decides what percentages you get. With an overhyped movie that turns out to be crap, this system, however, leads to a lower score, since a lot of people will watch it with high expectations and be let down. With a movie that has shaped up to become a train-wreck, only die-hard fans will watch it and it will get great scores. This also happens a lot to obscure and niche movies - when the only ones rating it are people who're into it, you won't get something applicable to the opinions of a regular Joe.

Now, we have Plan IX and the only people watching are die-hard fans. The movie could be "Rey doing her laundry for 3 hours" and they'd seal-clap like good little drones and rate it 10/10. This also means that the movie is going to suffer at the box office, so there is at least an upside to it.
The score will bomb over time nonetheless, the general audience score is already down to like 78% and it is going to enter a free fall and ultimately reach the 40% mark... or lower.

In terms of review score, the movie now sits at 58% rotten with 290 reviews. That is abyssmal. TLJ's 91% was based on 360 reviews, so even if the remaining 70 reviews would all be "fresh", the movie would still only reach ~66%. That is absolutely atrocious, even Solo did better. If this trend continues, Plan IX will only hover a few measely percent above the Phantom Menace.

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It would have been hilarious if they had done like a ping-pong match where they keep force healing each other and then dying for like 15 minutes. That would have at least been entertaining to watch.
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Video Editing will take care of that.

JambledUpWords said:
That actually sounds like a good idea. But then there’s the weird thing of Kylo being Anikan’s dad and grandson at the same time
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That was a theory that floated around this thread 600 pages ago...
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
However it means that if Kylo used Sith rape sex on Rey NotveryMysterio when he revived her and made a baby..that kid is gonna be the Ivan Drago of Force users, he got the Special Skywalker semen..and Rey has Palps super Sith Eggs.
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And with that Palpy brings the true balance of the force. An ubermench possesing both Jedi and Sith genes. All according to keikakku. (Let's see someone use this exceptional idea.)
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
I really dislike the idea that Palpatine created Anakin. It just makes the film universe seem smaller, because nothing can be organic, it must be some overly convoluted plot by another character.
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Well, that and it raises a lot more questions than it answers: so Sheev Force-impregnated some random slave woman on a desert planet in the ass end of nowhere and just... left? Didn't take her with him, didn't make periodic checkups to see what was going on with his science experiment, didn't have any contingencies set up to make sure the kid wasn't unceremoniously killed by Sand People? Fucking why?

It makes a lot more sense that he was a project that Darth Plageus started but never completed due to coming down with a bad case of getting-murdered-by-your-apprentice. Sheev knew or suspected that D.P. had mastered power over life and death on a fundamental level, but the specific knowledge died with him.
 
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The Shadow said:
The Clone Wars is a competently told story in its later phases, but it still strikes me as fanfic in all the ways that matter. I don't care if Darth Maul has a well written arc because surviving being cut in half for YEARS due to "pure hate" is fucking exceptional.

Oh, and for the amount of money Lucasfilm put into it I know they could have found a better art style than "Jak and Daxter cinematic".
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The only people allowed to perform inhuman feats by channeling pure hate are /v/ and Doomguy.
 
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