Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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All this talk of survival and stocking up on food and of fucking course our big freezer had to up and die this past week. Tried fixing it with new parts, but it's not on warranty anymore and we haven't had the time to go freezer-hunting yet.

Fuck. :story:

(We have a food storage, though, but not a lot of meat for the time being.)
My Washer and Dryer are over 35 years old. My fridge and freezer are 28 years old. All of them I can get full new parts. I'll keep them running until I no longer can get parts, they rust out, or I'm dead.

Just a fyi on why new appliances suck.


Remember Knowledge is power and some of us have good and useful information on how to survive this fucked up world.
 
All this talk of survival and stocking up on food and of fucking course our big freezer had to up and die this past week. Tried fixing it with new parts, but it's not on warranty anymore and we haven't had the time to go freezer-hunting yet.

Fuck. :story:

(We have a food storage, though, but not a lot of meat for the time being.)
Dried and salted meats are you friend in that scenario. It wouldn't be a bad idea to familiarize yourself with the techniques used to preserve meat before refrigeration either.
 
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...n-quarantine-all-cured-patients-14-days-after - 23.02 ... the fuck
Jim - Stream Live - 10 mins in.
Metokur points out possible connections to a death cult. South Korea is taking it very seriously.
I can't tell what is a ((Coincidence)) anymore.
 
All this talk of survival and stocking up on food and of fucking course our big freezer had to up and die this past week. Tried fixing it with new parts, but it's not on warranty anymore and we haven't had the time to go freezer-hunting yet.

Fuck. :story:

(We have a food storage, though, but not a lot of meat for the time being.)
Unless you have a generator good chance the meat may rot. If corona gets bad; it can kill productivity as well which in turn can harm the infrastructure. Black outs maybe a thing. so best learn how to cook on an open fire.
 
Lmao the news said "prepare for possible disruptions to daily life", the reserves here are doing extra drills, the store clerks are all wearing latex gloves, pharmacies are out of isopropyl. All the items I was after today (rice, beans, bleach, respirator, gloves) conveniently on sale. Something's definitely brewing. The virus doesn't bother me but quarantine and curfew do.
 
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I don't know if you just don't have skin in the game or what, but those of us with families to think of are going to be more wary than unencumbered people. And like we keep saying: best case scenario we'll just have more food and water we can use instead of grocery shopping for a while.
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You're going to be huddled in your shelters, eating powdered mashed potatoes and reading your jizz-stained manga's while I'll be dancing naked in the streets screaming "Come and get me motherfuckers!"
 
Lmao the news said "prepare for possible disruptions to daily life", the reserves here are doing extra drills, the store clerks are all wearing latex gloves, pharmacies are out of isopropyl. All the items I was after today (rice, beans, bleach, respirator, gloves) conveniently on sale. Something's definitely brewing. The virus doesn't bother me but quarantine and curfew do.
Dont suppose they'll call in the national guard? I mean shit the sensible thing to do would be close the border round up and quarantine the homeless. The case rate is controllable now if the government would just do the sensible thing and stop people from coming into the USA overseas.
 
I'm afraid my friend, we're completely fucked. I ride 3 types of public transport every day and I just look at the masses of people. JFK. Penn Station. AMTRAK. An incubation period of 14-24+ days. Asymptomatic spreading. Lives on surfaces for 9 days. Can be transmitted through feces and urine.

It is already here. There's no fucking way its not. To be quite honest, every major metropolitan area should do random population screenings.



I use 3 forms of public transport, work in a place with many international people and am very close to multiple airports with vast numbers of travelers from who knows where the fuck. There's not enough hand sanitizer on the planet that will keep me safe. I'm super fucked, there's no prevention for me. Hell, it could be incubating right now and I wouldn't know for 3 weeks.

I mean, I guess I'm prepping? Though part of me feels like its futile.

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Just want to thank everyone for the tips. They're all bookmarked, if I'm not already completely fucked.
It's okay, buddy. I had to pick up a family member from Korea this morning. Good luck, though.
 
So I'm starting to prep this week. I've got a feeling in my bones. Questions:

1) How much water do I need for 2-4 people?

2) What are the best non-perishable food items that will last for years that are easily available?

For meds, I'm just going to buy a ton of NSAIDs, Lidocaine and such. Basic antibiotics.

1) Sort of a loaded question. You can never really have "enough" persay. I am not personally worried about water supplies being cut due to COVID-19, but if you are, I recommend at least a gallon per family member per day minimum up to whatever makes you feel comfortable. I would worry more about water filtration than trying to store months worth of water personally. Water filtration systems would fail way before water pressure would.

And at the end of the day, if you have a roof and gutters and live in an area with any modicum of rain, you're going to do alright.

2.) Stereotypical "rice and beans" answer. Otherwise I normally recommend things I normally eat when I section hike: dehydrated mashed potatoes, packaged tuna, Knorr rice and pasta sides, that sort of thing. None of those things require cooking, since you can cold soak them, but they do last a very long time. Peanut butter is also big. If nothing else, these sorts of foods are dirt cheap and easy to stockpile.

I don't like MREs or freeze-dried camping food. They're okay if you are just going out for a day or something, but they're prohibitively expensive and MREs are way overpackaged. The dollars to calories equation doesn't make sense to me and you're never going to bring an MRE to work for lunch when it gets close to its expiration date.

For stockpiling antibiotics, check out fish antibiotics. They're the same thing you would be prescribed at a doctor's office, but not FDA approved for human consumption.
 
I just remembered to look up Greenland, and they might live. They've been wary since the end of January, though they might as well just close their borders now.

Greenland-based Royal Greenland is not yet feeling any impact on its business because of the outbreak of coronavirus, however, it remains wary.

"So far there is not much to say, but we are awaiting the situation," Hanne Kvist, director of market development and marketing, told IntraFish.

Just like many other suppliers, the company had several large shipments go to China prior to the Chinese New Year festivities to meet the anticipated demand for seafood products during the holiday season, Kvist said.

"So far, [Royal Greenland] is not experiencing any order cancellations, but is, of course, in close contact with customers and colleagues in China," Kvist said.

The company previously reported high demand from the Chinese market. Sales into China already exceed €100 million ($113.7 million), but CEO Mikael Thinghuus sees this as just the tip of the iceberg for the company.

"Our experience is that there is a great number of educated, affluent Chinese willing to pay for high-quality seafood," Thinghuus told IntraFish. "This figure is going to grow."

Chinese customers are fickle, Thinghuus said, but so far the company has seen some success selling coldwater prawns, Greenland halibut and snow crab. Royal Greenland is now working on developing demand for cod in the market.

In September, Quin-Sea Fisheries, a division of Royal Greenland - officially opened its live lobster facility in New Harbour, Newfoundland.

As part of its strategy, Quin-Sea has initiated several international air shipments to target markets, China being top of the list.
 
This entire event and the fallout from it needs to be remembered.
I agree fully with that statement, but I am more than a bit pessimistic about "global memory".
For economic and political reasons, this pandemic, if most of the world gets by relatively unscathed, will quickly be memory holed.
May we always have this thread, however. (Looking at you, Null. Hoping you were able to source another server. If what you ordered was coming from/thru China, it could be a while.)
 
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