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Well lets talk past this, does anyone know how 4% of the workforce dropping dead would affect things? I dont know much about macro economics but that many people dead probably would lead to some sort of labor reforms right? A lot of places around here can barely find people to cover hours as it is.


I hope this doesn't apply to in-state travel.
How the fuck would he enforce that?
 
Apparently Melbourne will be in lockdown soon but not confirmed, I can't wait to larp as humungus and to ask for TP in exchange of peoples lives.

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Well lets talk past this, does anyone know how 4% of the workforce dropping dead would affect things? I dont know much about macro economics but that many people dead probably would lead to some sort of labor reforms right? A lot of places around here can barely find people to cover hours as it is.
The elderly who are most at risk of death are likely not part of the work force...

The real economic impact has already begun as China had to stop its manufacturing months ago and now the world deals woth shortages of ma manufactured goods.
 
funny you should mention that.

https://archive.li/BeMm3

Due to the coronavirus, some local law enforcement agencies say they will no longer respond to non-emergency calls in person but instead will just take reports online or by phone.

The Kern County Sheriff’s Office and Delano Police Department said deputies and officers will still respond to life-threatening/emergency calls. They will also still be out in public doing investigations but will limit physical contact with the public for health and safety reasons.

poped up in my cousin s feed. Seems local law enforcement is not gonna responded to non emergancy's if you have an issue fill out a web form.

@Jet Fuel Johnny I ve enjoyed some of your prepper talk. Thought the other talk was alittle out there. But I understand you ve lived through events that tought you. "no one is coming to fix things you have to fix them yourself"
I wonder people get out of tickets this way. Pulling someone over for rolling through a stop sign or doing 10 above the speed limit is already nerve wracking. Imagine they roll down the window and start coughing.
 
Well lets talk past this, does anyone know how 4% of the workforce dropping dead would affect things? I dont know much about macro economics but that many people dead probably would lead to some sort of labor reforms right? A lot of places around here can barely find people to cover hours as it is.


How the fuck would he enforce that?
Knock out the two passes in WA and the 3 in CA, I5, and Hwy 99. Cordon the few bridges over the Columbia between WA and OR.

Done.
 
Well lets talk past this, does anyone know how 4% of the workforce dropping dead would affect things? I dont know much about macro economics but that many people dead probably would lead to some sort of labor reforms right? A lot of places around here can barely find people to cover hours as it is.


How the fuck would he enforce that?

Hire Sonic the Hedgehog to build a wall around California? (or at least have a bunch of National Gaurd do it on overtime?) PLEASE let it be a wall around both states, I would love for the "Wall around california" meme to become reality.
 
Well lets talk past this, does anyone know how 4% of the workforce dropping dead would affect things? I dont know much about macro economics but that many people dead probably would lead to some sort of labor reforms right? A lot of places around here can barely find people to cover hours as it is.

How the fuck would he enforce that?

Nobody with any level of expertise I've heard has suggested that anywhere near 4% of people will die, much less people in the workforce. The bulk of the people who've died so far are well above normal working age, and the more likely rate of mortality is closer to 1-2%. Which still wouldn't actually be 2% of people, it would be 2% of people who actually get the virus.
 
I live in a low risk state, there's 12 total with corona-chan but the hotspot is fairly far away from my county.
Is buying food okay? Already have the imperishable foods/water bottles just in case stores close down. I'm gonna wear disposable gloves, not sure if I should use my masks yet.

And after shopping, I'm gonna wipe down my foods (like fruits) with vinegar, but the other stuff will be wiped with regular lysol disinfectant sprays.

Everyone around me so far is buying those hand sanitizers, staying inside (streets are somewhat empty), and buying TP, so that's reassuring.
 
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Knock out the two passes in WA and the 3 in CA, I5, and Hwy 99. Cordon the few bridges over the Columbia between WA and OR.

Done.
What about all the small roads between the states, plus the border? You could just leave through calexico and drive back up through el paso. Plus the wonderful Mojave is easy enough to drive on.
 
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Anyone ever see the 1980s movie Miracle Mile?

It's a very good movie about a guy in LA who answers a ringing payphone late at night and hears someone claiming to be in a missile silo and that America just launched it's nuclear payload.

He doesn't know for sure that it's true, but he shares this with a group people at a diner and sets off to find his girlfriend, by the end of the movie as the rumor spreads LA is engulfed in total chaos to where even if the rumor wasn't true (I won't spoil whether it is or isn't) a lot of damage has already been done.

The point is even if a danger is overblown if panic sets in that alone can do a lot of damage and that's something I worry about with this virus.
 
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Why do people want to get tested? There's no demonstrated effective antivirals. There's nothing they can do for you in the "I might have it" stage. All you can do trying to get tested is get exposed. Let the hospitals worry about that. Only go there or to clinics if you have to.
I think most people who want to get tested just want to know for sure whether they have it or not--which may or may not make any difference in how they conduct themselves.

Also, I've seen reports that some employers have claimed they will pay corona-stricken employees who have to go on quarantine--which sounds magnanimous until you realize those employees will have to prove they actually have coronavirus in order to get paid. If they can't get tested, they're SOL.

And, in the coming days, there may be relief programs available through various government agencies, as well as private charities, for people who had to stop working due to coronavirus, and they're going to want proof of infection, too.

So not only is failure to provide widespread testing completely distorting the official numbers, but it's potentially going to keep a lot of people who might desperately need financial assistance from qualifying for it.
I already have a stockpile of MREs and nonperishables because I live in earthquake country. I think most people in California should have a couple of weeks of supplies, since Northridge is in recent memory and we have low-magnitude tremors all the time.
Anybody who lives on the West Coast, all the way up to Alaska, should have at least a couple weeks' worth of supplies in case of a major earthquake. I'm so routinely amazed at how few people do that I should just stop being amazed at all and accept that the great bulk of humanity is fundamentally short-sighted and stupid, no matter how well-educated and successful some of them might seem.
Stay in comfy apartment in major city and epidemic center where you know many neighbors (highly likely to be quarantined if it comes to that) or flee to grimy, empty house (everything works but needs reno and serious cleaning, no furniture) in a pretty small, safe town with a yard where you know no one?
Stay. Sheltering in place in a clean, comfortable apartment, in a city where you know people, where they know you, and where you know how to access any services you might need, is preferable in this case. There is an understandable impulse to run that I see expressed a lot right now, but staying in a familiar place is going to be a lot less stressful.
All right, real question.

If someone's in a "hot" zone, one of the "in two weeks we're gonna be Italy" spots and they're following the recommendations in this thread and elsewhere to stay home, how long would they need to do so to appreciably improve their situation? Would staying home for a week right now make a significant difference? Two weeks? A month? Do we have any idea how much time would be needed or when the optimal time would be?
As someone who lives in a zone such as you describe, I can honestly say I have no idea. We're in uncharted territory. I've got possible symptoms, have been home for a full week now, and expect to remain here until at least the end of the month, even after the symptoms are gone. It could end up being longer; I honestly don't know. The best I think anyone can do is avoid going out as much as possible, keep an eye on the news and social media, and keep making decisions on a day-by-day basis, given whatever information is currently available.

There really are no solid answers to questions like this right now, which is already making some people crazy. Personally, I think the healthiest response is going to be accepting that you don't know when things will return to some sort of "normal" again, while reassuring yourself that eventually they will. Countless people across the span of human history have survived a lot worse shit than this, without knowing when it was going to end, and you will too.

Take care of what's in front of you in the present; try to anticipate what's coming up next in the immediate future so you can deal with that, and try to do something every day that gives you some joy and helps you feel more normal. If you're stuck at home, keep to your regular schedule--don't stay up shitposting half the night only to end up sleeping through half the day (unless that's what you normally do). Get outside whenever you can.

I'm aftaid that's the best I can tell you. But we will get through this.
 
The military he has total executive authority over?

I'm sure the 9th circuit will declare that he doesn't have the right to act as a commander in chief for some completely insane reason, or he's not allowed to use the military to enforce a quarantine (Posse Comitatus Act?) or some equally stupid shit. California basically has seceded from the union by this point, and are waiting for a "real" president to get back into power.
 
I'm sure the 9th circuit will declare that he doesn't have the right to act as a commander in chief for some completely insane reason, or he's not allowed to use the military to enforce a quarantine (Posse Comitatus Act?) or some equally stupid shit. California basically has seceded from the union by this point, and are waiting for a "real" president to get back into power.
SCOTUS would have an emergency hearing so fast the 9th Circuit wouldn't have time to print their garbage decision.
 
SCOTUS would have an emergency hearing so fast the 9th Circuit wouldn't have time to print their garbage decision.
Man I want this to happen just for the SCOTUS to absolutely pump slap the 9th Circuit for actively endangering peoples lives to virtue signal.
 
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