Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Aria]

The number of coronavirus cases in New York City has risen to 10,764. More than 35,000 cases in the U.S.

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“The number of coronavirus cases in New York City has risen to 10,764. More than 35,000 cases in the U.S. https://t.co/ottFfGyDCH”

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[Karl der Grosse]

I'm actually hoping a rent/mortgage suspension goes through. I have a bit of rental property, a few dozen units spread over two states. Rent comes due in a little more than a week and I'm fully expecting at least a few of my tenants to fail to pay. Not to mention my employees. What do I do about them? Most of them have been with me years, some for decades, and I care about them deeply. Do I keep them working? Do I send them home? If I send them home and keep paying them, will the government eventually help cover my losses?

Here's what I'm doing. My tenants have all already been informed that the rental offices are closed for the foreseeable future and managers are only available by appointment. Maintenance is only available for emergencies on a to be determined basis. I keep my properties in tip-top condition so maintenance is minimal anyway. I will continue to pay my staff regardless of whether they stay home or work, and they've been told this. I have a carefully chosen, mostly long-term staff, so there's not going to be much malingering. If there is, there is.

As for rent, well, I will not evict anyone for failure to pay rent. Period. I will take the financial hit regardless of whether I get financial relief from the feds or the state. I haven't informed them of this, of course. Not yet. Luckily most of my properties are high-income housing, so I think for at least a month or two it shouldn't be a problem. Several of my properties have live-in police officers (I give them a break on rent) so things should be calm.

I have more than enough financial resources to handle mortgages for the foreseeable future. Most landlords don't. Most rely on rental income every month to pay their mortgages. No rent, no mortgage payments. No mortgage payments, bank takes the hit. Multiply that by a few hundred thousand landlords and the banks are in real fucking trouble. If the banks are in real fucking trouble, every business that relies on bank financing is in real fucking trouble. And that's everyone. Everyone.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I have more than enough financial resources to handle mortgages for the foreseeable future. Most landlords don't. Most rely on rental income every month to pay their mortgages. No rent, no mortgage payments. No mortgage payments, bank takes the hit. Multiply that by a few hundred thousand landlords and the banks are in real fucking trouble. If the banks are in real fucking trouble, every business that relies on bank financing is in real fucking trouble. And that's everyone. Everyone.

Yep.

You can imagine what would happen in an area like Vegas when all the service industries are shuttered. And that's...their only industry. Median rent is like 1k so trumpbucks aren't going to help much. It's gonna be a bloodbath.

 

[heathercho]

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this reeks of an attempt by China to change Google search results.
does no one remember Hong Kong and their 5 demands? I don't think it's an accident that these are named the same thing. it just stinks of SEO manipulation, especially considering the rumors that this stunt may have been staged.

some may call me a conspiracy theorist but I honestly think most of the sjw bullshit we've been seeing over the years has been coming mostly from China to undermine the United States social cohesion and patriotism. and I think it's coming from our universities and Chinese transfer students/professors.

maybe im crazy but it wouldn't be the wildest psy-op out there

Coronavirus in Young People: Is It Dangerous? Data Show It Can Be - B…

archived 21 Mar 2020 04:07:41 UTC

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One of those younger adults is Clement Chow, an assistant professor of genetics at the University of Utah. "I’m young and not high risk, yet I am in the ICU with a very severe case,” Chow said in a March 15 tweet. "We really don’t know much about this virus."


According to his Twitter posts, Chow had a low-grade fever for a few days and then a bad cough that led to respiratory failure. It turned out to be the coronavirus. He ended up on high flow oxygen in the ICU. When he arrived last Thursday, he was the first patient there. "Now there are many more," he tweeted.

Chow didn't give his age in the tweets, but his laboratory website indicates he graduated from college in 2003 and has two unruly children. He didn't respond to an email and Bloomberg was unable to independently confirm his status as a patient.

Add this to your chinkspiracy - Even Bloomberg didn't believe him.

 

[Coleslaw]

does no one remember Hong Kong and their 5 demands? I don't think it's an accident that these are named th

The picture answers your question. 5 is a natural human question because of the fingers on our hands.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Alrighty then so time for spaaaaain news.

The madrid community president (Diaz ayuso, PP) has literally just made a deal with china, on her own, without warning the rest of the country. No one knows what that deal is or what it entails but Xi is being generous with her little pawn so we know it's bad. (Let's remember the PP are the ones bitching about Communism. Corruptuon, corruption never changes.) And every other PP led autonomous community seems to have flipped the switch to full dumb for no apparent reason other than andalucia, bitching about Sanchez constantly for shit he didn't even do. (Which is hilarious taking into account how much can be bitched about shit he DID do!) Best guess is one of their dirty deals turned south and now they want Sanchez out. Either that or they realized Fernando Simon is a wall they ain't breaking any time soon.

Spain (central gov) has decided to make our own temporary megahospital chinese style. And of course we've gone to a pabillion (IFEMA more concretely, in madrid) for fairs, installed extra temperature regulation and air circulation/filtering, and started building separating and semi isolating modules. We're also rolling out the army's (and a few NGOs) campaign hospitals, meaning any area enclosed and large enough for temperature regulation is being filled with isolating tents, for example we got multiple on universities, and areas on the outside of the hospitals have gotten tumor-like tents as testing areas so infected going for tests don't need to enter into the building itself. (Those last ones aren't for staying only testing.)

De Guindos (current Vicepresident of the central european bank, ex-PP minister under Rajoi) calls for an emergency rent (Trumpbux) for europe. And Sanchez is calling Europe to make a fucking Marshall Plan already, which we all know won't happen.

Finally, last thing is good news. R0 went from 3 to 1.7, which means it's still growing but significantly more slowly, which taking into account we were supposedly on the exponential growth chunk of the curve means we might be flattening it for real.

EDIT: ultrakek at Fernando Simon calling out the fact that there ain't nobody helping spain, or any other european country, nor are they expected to ever recieve any aid.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

Uncensored footage of Corona treatment:

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

"China has responded to the crisis with unprecedented openness and bough the world more ..."

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...virus-cases-may-be-silent-carriers-classified

A growing number of studies are now questioning the WHO’s earlier statement that asymptomatic transmission was “extremely rare”. A report by the WHO’s international mission after a trip to China estimated that asymptomatic infections accounted for 1 to 3 per cent of cases, according to a European Union paper.

“The number of novel coronavirus (Covid-19) cases worldwide continues to grow, and the gap between reports from China and statistical estimates of incidence based on cases diagnosed outside China indicates that a substantial number of cases are underdiagnosed,” a group of Japanese experts led by Hiroshi Nishiura, an epidemiologist at Hokkaido University, wrote in a letter to the International Journal of Infectious Diseases in February.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1516240-20200323.htm

Officials say these tests are not needed as the number of new infections has fallen sharply.

But a Wuhan resident, who gave his surname as Wan, disputed this claim. He said that his 70-year-old mother suffered from pneumonia once again after she was discharged from hospital and is now in isolation at a hotel.

He said no hospitals were prepared to admit her because she wasn't tested positive.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

World Updates on Twitter

“Leaked Footage from Spain. The hospitals are literary filled with patients. Shortages of beds leaves people lying down on the floor #COVIDー19 https://t.co/NwAb9V0dek”

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Welcome to Spain. @EmuWarsVeteran , can you confirm this or not?

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That was recorded during one of Rajoi's flu outbreaks. Rajoi tried to privatize the healthcare by closing emergency wards, that was the result as the private proceeded to do what it always does (fuck all), I recall the videos from when Occupy Madrid was in charge so that was 2012/2013

(I told you shit got scary with Rajoi.)

Edit: yes he literally forced emergency wards to close and fired medical personnel claiming the free market would take care of it.

And this is why I'll always say: public or private doesn't matter that muchm both can be done right with cwrtain caveats, both have good things both have bad things. What matters the most is HOW you implement them. If you got mostly private and change to public by going full Bernie, you get corruption. If you have public and go private by going full Rajoi. Well, THAT happend.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Just a heads up, John Hopkins is screwing around with the numbers and columns again. Looking at it they are splitting all US deaths to cities now and at the moment the US recovery number is gone.

 

[Barnard]

Some cities have switched their public transport systems to weekend schedules, so now there's more people (mostly old) per one bus at the same time. Thanks a lot.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Interesting piece in Bloomberg about what's the deal with Japan? Are the undercounting cases (for fears of losing the 2020 Games), are going to be hit with an explosion soon, or have they just kept it under wraps?

Japan may have some built-in advantages, such as a culture where handshakes and hugs are less common than in other G-7 countries. It also has rates of hand-washing above those in Europe.

Cases of seasonal flu have been declining for seven straight weeks, just as the coronavirus was spreading, indicating Japanese may have taken to heart the need to adopt some basic steps to stem infectious diseases. Tokyo Metropolitan Infectious Disease Surveillance Center data shows that influenza cases this year are well below normal levels, with nationwide cases at the lowest, according to data going back to 2004.

If that decline in flu cases is real, that would be a good indicator that it's real, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

So on the neurological damage: I haven't managed to get my hands on the document, but they've gone public. They say it's NOT neurological. What it afects its the nose cells controling smell. And due to smell and taste being related this also afects the sense of taste. I repeat, NO neurological damage but it DOES make you loose partially smell and taste!

 

[Aria]

Spain reports 4,517 new cases of coronavirus and 462 new deaths since yesterday, raising total to 33,089 cases and 2,182 dead

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“BREAKING: Spain reports 4,517 new cases of coronavirus and 462 new deaths since yesterday, raising total to 33,089 cases and 2,182 dead https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0”

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570 coronavirus patients in Spain were admitted to the intensive care unit over the past 24 hours, raising the total number in ICU to 2,355

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“570 coronavirus patients in Spain were admitted to the intensive care unit over the past 24 hours, raising the total number in ICU to 2,355 https://t.co/tkYF5J2hMk”

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BNO Newsroom on Twitter: "570 coronavirus patients in Spain were admi…

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[Glad I couldn't help]

So on the neurological damage: I haven't managed to get my hands on the document, but they've gone public. They say it's NOT neurological. What it afects its the nose cells controling smell. And due to smell and taste being related this also afects the sense of taste. I repeat, NO neurological damage but it DOES make you loose partially smell and taste!

Do regular colds and flus do the same thing to those nose cells?

 

[CashMoney!]

I'm hosting some quiz, game and movie nights on Facebook Live over the next few weeks so my friends and I can still have some social activity. I've never been more grateful for technology and how it can keep people together when used right. We're going to see the extremes of both sides of the coin with tech during this event. I'm feeling uneasy about it.

 

[#zzz]

I have not gone outside in several days. I have not seen the sun. I have not felt the breeze on my face. I have not spoken to any other human beings. I subsist on cheap food which I have hoarded.

So, all in all, it's been a pretty normal week.

Yeah has anyone else here been like "So whats the big deal again? Minimal Human contact? Solitary confinement? What's changed? oh the normies have to do it? I wonder how they'll do."

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

I'm hosting some quiz, game and movie nights on Facebook

No, I would rather walk through an Italian emergency ward that spend time on Facebook.

Guys, I heard that the Executive Director of WHO was on CNN saying that "I have absolutely no reason to believe China's coronavirus numbers are not 100% accurate." Does anybody have clip of that?

 

[that jerk over there]

Alrighty then so time for spaaaaain news.

Spain (central gov) has decided to make our own temporary megahospital chinese style. And of course we've gone to a pabillion (IFEMA more concretely, in madrid) for fairs, installed extra temperature regulation and air circulation/filtering, and started building separating and semi isolating modules.

This is IFEMA:

IFEMA on Twitter

“Preparamos la #COP25 en 18 días y este hospital provisional en 18 horas. Estamos orgullosos de todo nuestro equipo y del trabajo de nuestras empresas proveedoras. Somos IFEMA. #IFEMAeresTú | #COVID19 | #coronavirus | #QuédateEnCasa | #EsteVirusLoParamosUnidos”

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Articles featuring photo and videos (in Spanish):

Coronavirus España: Llegan los primeros pacientes con coronavirus al hospital provisional instalado en Ifema

El pabellón 9 ya tiene listos 15 módulos con 750 camas y cuatro módulos UCI con 64 camas

www.eldia.es

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Así funciona el «Wuhan español» en Ifema

Las instalaciones sanitarias del recinto ferial abarcan 35.000 metros cuadrados, con miles de camas separadas tres metros unas de otras

www.abc.es

Archive

Edit: archive.li tried.

 

[Vecr]

This is IFEMA:

IFEMA on Twitter

“Preparamos la #COP25 en 18 días y este hospital provisional en 18 horas. Estamos orgullosos de todo nuestro equipo y del trabajo de nuestras empresas proveedoras. Somos IFEMA. #IFEMAeresTú | #COVID19 | #coronavirus | #QuédateEnCasa | #EsteVirusLoParamosUnidos”

twitter.com

Articles featuring photo and videos (in Spanish):

Coronavirus España: Llegan los primeros pacientes con coronavirus al hospital provisional instalado en Ifema

El pabellón 9 ya tiene listos 15 módulos con 750 camas y cuatro módulos UCI con 64 camas

www.eldia.es

Así funciona el «Wuhan español» en Ifema

Las instalaciones sanitarias del recinto ferial abarcan 35.000 metros cuadrados, con miles de camas separadas tres metros unas de otras

www.abc.es

Edit: trying to archive but archve.li is fried right now.

Can you post the /wip/ links?