Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[1Tonka_Truck]

That "Iran kills US navy with fishing boats and missiles" wargame story was fake and gay, it was some kind of glitch in the computer systems that was exploited, and was immediately corrected.

You are so full of shit it's coming out your ears. It wasn't a 'glitch in the computer systems.' It was a wily retired general that realizing most of the rules for OPFOR were to make sure the BLUFOR won. Rules like not being able to turn the search radars for his anti-ship missiles off. Ever. Even when there were no ships in range. The Navy's vision for this exercise was a flight of the valkyries wave of anti-radar missiles destroying every anti-ship missile site hours before their precious ships were in range and declaring victory. Because that's realistic. The first couple hours of the exercise didn't go to plan with flights of hornets and prowlers finding no active radars and no targets. Then everyone's threat board light up like a christmas tree and, boom, 15 minutes later no more strike group. Naturally, the navy was not thrilled with this outcome. They replaced the retired general and restarted the exercise citing the fact no one on BLUFOR got any meaningful experience out of the exercise. I'd say thousands of Sailors and Marines experienced a simulated death, but nobody asks me.

Fuck you for making me write this Mr 'third hand anecdote.'

landlocked peninsula

What the fuck is a landlocked peninsula?

 

[Radical Cadre]

Piss off, it's even worse with the ship docked at LA. The Army hospital at the Javits Center is taking patients without bureaucratic bullshit. The Navy's criteria is so restrictive and time-consuming hospitals don't even bother. Looks like it's doing what the Navy does best; looking good and not much else. Both ships can fuck off and look pretty somewhere else.

Looks like that's going to change after the Pentagon got involved.

Navy hospital ship in New York changes patient screening process

A U.S. Navy hospital ship docked in New York is loosening its screening process for patients to get on board, the Pentagon said Friday, after criticism that the ship has been too slow in admitting patients.

thehill.com

Piss off? How about you show some gratitude toward your country and your armed services for expediting the ship's repairs and getting it out to sea early to help your ungrateful ass? They changed the screening process? GREAT! What screening process was that again? Oh right, the screening process for the US Navy ship that showed up at your docks to help, the one you people have been bitching about non-stop since before it arrived. The ship type of which we only have two and you got one of them!! Florida didn't get it. Louisiana didn't get it. You got it!

Once again, they don't have to help you and your ire is better directed at the state and local level; you know, the ones that neglected to prepare in the first place. Maybe your time would be better spent saying "thank you" to the Navy doctors and nurses that are there to help. But that's not going to happen. You fucks don't even say thank you to the farmers that supply your glittering den of degeneracy with the food you need to survive or the hicks that operate the power stations (and eat the pollution) two states away that keep your glitter going.

Piss. Off.
And be safe, I love you. But I'll rural-urban split your ass.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Even with all the recent chintz and rearming the PLA has done as well as the rumour that they have retrained large parts of their military along USMC lines the PLA is still a hilarious paper tiger that's never won a war in its history. Its mostly a civic engineering body that builds shit when called on by Beijing.

It could try to invade Taiwan, but god knows if it'd actually manage anything. It's more likely to have a spot of adventurism in the south china sea.

Even with all the training, standard issue for the PLA is a trench knife and a Chromebook. They train on guns but don't get to keep them.

Given the amount of time they spend policing their own citizens, one might be tempted to think they only train to combat regional threats. The PLA fights information wars and economic wars. It's unknown how they would perform in a kinetic war, they have a lot of bodies to toss at problems.

There was a protest from military retirees late last summer, a bunch of them had a very polite sit down in front of government offices before being hauled off to hotels and tortured to figure out who the ringleaders are. It made the news, which was not good. While the public is one thing, every PLA officer knows this is the fate that awaits them eventually. I'd love to know more about that army's morale, smells like clay.

 

[John Merston]

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Getting infected with a virus to own the libs

There's nothing funnier than the sight of a right-winger using a pro-abortion slogan.

 

[DavieJones714]

Navy Captain was removed from his ship for breaking chain of command.

Sailors cheer Navy captain removed for coronavirus warning

The commander of a US aircraft carrier hit by a major outbreak of coronavirus was ousted after writing a memo warning that decisive action was needed to save...

youtu.be

 

[Non-Expert!]

Pray tell, what do you think is easier to decontaminate, a giant ship or a temp hospital on the ground?

Neither.

The Navy is the one who is qualified to deal with exotic diseases, intestines spilling all over the place, anxiety and trauma, projectile body fluids, reviving the walking dead, etc.

Civilian hospitals typically have a few people who deal with this level of trauma but that is not the focus of the entire operation. And not to this degree of intensity. Many of the doctors and nurses who I have met, are not emotionally and/or physically suitable to deal with dying people on this scale and /or survive the virus themselves.

Ok I get that about no babies and kids and labor and delivery. Not what a navy ship is for.

Piss off, it's even worse with the ship docked at LA. The Army hospital at the Javits Center is taking patients without bureaucratic bullshit. The Navy's criteria is so restrictive and time-consuming hospitals don't even bother. Looks like it's doing what the Navy does best; looking good and not much else. Both ships can fuck off and look pretty somewhere else.

Looks like that's going to change after the Pentagon got involved.

Navy hospital ship in New York changes patient screening process

A U.S. Navy hospital ship docked in New York is loosening its screening process for patients to get on board, the Pentagon said Friday, after criticism that the ship has been too slow in admitting patients.

thehill.com

But if they really were here to help, they would take COVID and help keep the infection levels at local hospitals to a managable level.

What leads to resentment, is that it is easy for the feds and the president to say to the non-New Yorkers and non-southern Californians that they are helping. But those familiar even with the geography of the areas, can foresee major logistical barriers to getting the patients to the ships, in the first place. Therefore until those ships fill with patients, to the brim, it is all for show. Also the Navy has PPE that is collecting dust, while area hospitals are struggling to manage the cases that the Navy refuses to take, and ALSO ration their PPE and human resources

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Medcram has a new video out on ventilator mortality. ICU patients have about a 50:50 chance of dying.

Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaIzj3s3p4A

Local upload

ICNARC (the UK's Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre) paper link, also direct upload

https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/b5f59585-5870-ea11-9124-00505601089b

Interesting table on page 9 giving the outcomes by patient group

A number of things kind of stick out here. With men it's 50:50 alive:dead but for women it's more like 60:40. If your BMI is over 30 your chances of survival go from 60% to 40% but from 25 to 30 it's not much worse than if you were under 25. If you're 16-49 you have about 75% chance of survival even in ICU but if you're over 70 it drops to 25%. If you need advanced respiratory support you're chances of survival drop from 80% down to 33%.

 

[Rudy Russo]

I'm 100% sure this is a fetish.

Edit: The BDSM and Latex fetish folk really are the most safe.

People with scuba and surfing wet suits aint doing to bad either.

 

[Not Really Here]

Navy Captain was removed from his ship for breaking chain of command.

Sailors cheer Navy captain removed for coronavirus warning

The commander of a US aircraft carrier hit by a major outbreak of coronavirus was ousted after writing a memo warning that decisive action was needed to save...

youtu.be

Also for publishing readiness information of a strategic asset on deployment for (at the time) a grand total of 100 confirmed mild WuFlu cases. Because in his considered opinion, beaching 3,000 members of the crew in Asia was better than a theoretical one serviceman dying.

I mean that's what we hire Captains for right? Deciding to gut a Nimitz-class nuclear powered aircraft carrier of personnel isn't a decision for the President or CINPAC, but the media and a vessel commander. Right?

 

[Non-Expert!]

Piss off? How about you show some gratitude toward your country and your armed services for expediting the ship's repairs and getting it out to sea early to help your ungrateful ass? They changed the screening process? GREAT! What screening process was that again? Oh right, the screening process for the US Navy ship that showed up at your docks to help, the one you people have been bitching about non-stop since before it arrived. The ship type of which we only have two and you got one of them!! Florida didn't get it. Louisiana didn't get it. You got it!

Once again, they don't have to help you and your ire is better directed at the state and local level; you know, the ones that neglected to prepare in the first place. Maybe your time would be better spent saying "thank you" to the Navy doctors and nurses that are there to help. But that's not going to happen. You fucks don't even say thank you to the farmers that supply your glittering den of degeneracy with the food you need to survive or the hicks that operate the power stations (and eat the pollution) two states away that keep your glitter going.

Piss. Off.
And be safe, I love you. But I'll rural-urban split your ass.

Maybe the ship should go to Florida and deal specifically with elderly people who get some other problem at their facility. Because that would help keep COVID out of nursing homes and retirement communities. Maybe that is a better plan, because current information dictates, that once COVID enters those places, the grim reaper follows. And overstays his welcome.

If the Navy doesn't want its troops exposed to COVID, then they need to work only with people coming from already quarantined instutional settings.

 

[Radical Cadre]

Maybe the ship should go to Florida and deal specifically with elderly people who get some other problem at their facility. Because that would help keep COVID out of nursing homes and retirement communities. Maybe that is a better plan, because current information dictates, that once COVID enters those places, the grim reaper follows. And overstays his welcome.

Agree, New Yorkers clearly don't want it.

I saved all of those Google Community Mobility Report PDFs and zipped them up for ease of use. Here you go!

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video archives April 2.

What the hell is going on, people are going nuts...

Prosecutors: Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

Prosecutors: Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

An engineer deliberately ran a train off the tracks at high speed in an attempt to damage the USNS Mercy hospital ship, prosecutors say.

6abc.com

http://archive.li/wip/FqME1

The Pacific Harbor Line train derailed Tuesday, running through the end of the track and crashing through barriers, finally coming to rest about 250 yards from the docked naval ship.


Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ja2LtltJujA&feature=emb_logo

The scary part is, he didn't land that far from his target.... Still, he would have fallen like a rock in the water without a single chance of touching the ship anyway. Way too heavy.

SNIP

He ended up nearly 450 ft away, nice momentum, but really not enough speed before derailing ! xD

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So, should we begin a thread for Coronavirus Derangement Syndrome? Here is some faggot on a couch opining about how he can't stop watching the movie "Contagion" because watching misery porn that resembles a modern RL incident is better than volunteering and helping to deal with the modern RL incident, apparently. Oh, and it's totally the Bad Orange Man's fault for that brain donor couple downing fish pills.

Not archiving because we're going to see a ton of shit like this published in the future....

If you don't think something is worth the 20 seconds it takes to archive it please reconsider posting in the first place.

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Die fat fucks, especially mukbangers - check out this epic 12 minute rant

Video has been archived locally, available on request, should the original disappear.

Video is nuked, archives need to be in the thread otherwise they are no use to anyone.

Someone else might already mentionned it, Corona-chan had made that South Park clip from an earlier season relevant again.

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Here's another collection of videos that some of you might find interesting:

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Eerie footage. This guy rode the London metro. The stations and wagons are deserted:

Remember that female nurse from NYC filming the chaos at her unit and their lack of supplies and equipment? She now has Covid-19

Interview with a doctor in Seattle:

I told you guys they are gonna bail out the airlines. Here you go:

Too many cities and countries around the world have come to depend on tourism generated by cheap charter flights for them to discontinue those. They are going to be bailed out, as happened a decade ago.

People are now breaking in and stealing alcohol from bars (to drink or to use for santitation is anyone's guess):

Good point from this WHO representative propagandist: "Given that there is no cure, why is testing so important?". Most people who are tested positive do not receive any special treatment. If they are mild they're just told to stay home and bunker up:
snip

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Corona-chan had gived some new breath in these Downfall parody clips.

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Guam governor says she has 'moral obligation' to help sailors | Reuters Video

Guam governor Lourdes Leon Guerrero said on Thursday that she's experiencing pushback from some local residents who were against welcoming the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, which is suffering a coronavirus outbreak onboard, but said she was assured that the quarantined sailors would be...

www.reuters.com

The governor of Guam has given aid to the USS Roosevelt. Apparently, they are able to quarantine cases in a hotel on shore. Sorry, I don't know how to archive video.

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UpDate: Memology
Equador - Inferno. 4/1/2020 4:37

Ecuador - Infierno

🔴Background music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xoK2ZlqQg 🔴Background visuals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMn4PoIm0wE Other Music by Epidemic Sound...

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My take? This is to be expected in Latin America. Some of the countries are more civilized than others.

But then you have this shit happen

El Helicoptero Bendito

🔴Background music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skLkawYmnJE 🔴Background visuals: https://www.youtube.com/user/Royaltyfreetube -----SUPPORT THE CHANNEL----...

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Money being wasted by a government.

Slight power level. I was investing money into bio fuel at the time certain counties were way ahead of the US using switch grass. There was a time in the early to mid 2000's where there opportunity for many Latin American Nations to advance. But because of the formation of B.R.I.C.S. in 2009/2010 I saw the writing on the wall and left that region entirely.

BRICS Stands for Brazil. Russia, India, China, South Africa.

IMHO that's when S.America started to become on shit hole. As BRICS has a real influence down there. Everything China and to a lesser extent Russia touches... dies...

Archived the Equator video

https://archive.li/wip/bjShN

That doesn't work for videos. You need to download them and reupload to archive to the thread.

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Number of adults in the US with any of 6 chronic conditions* increasing risk for COVID-19 complications and the percentage of the total in each state; 2017 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System.

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Flattening the curve is not enough, we need to squash it: An explainer using a simple model - Australia
o boy


Management of Critically Ill Adults With COVID-19


COVID-19 pandemic in west Africa


Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and covid-19 - ibuprofen and co.


Covid and Antibodies - German Trans. Org.

PDFs archived on post



For people that don't know how to archive please read this thread https://kiwifarms.net/threads/archival-tools.6561/

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Also for publishing readiness information of a strategic asset on deployment for (at the time) a grand total of 100 confirmed mild WuFlu cases. Because in his considered opinion, beaching 3,000 members of the crew in Asia was better than a theoretical one serviceman dying.

I mean that's what we hire Captains for right? Deciding to gut a Nimitz-class nuclear powered aircraft carrier of personnel isn't a decision for the President or CINPAC, but the media and a vessel commander. Right?

When you read articles like this it seems like Crozier screwed up by leaking the memo which contained readiness information

Navy Brass Felt Blindsided by Fired Carrier Captain’s Emailed Appeal

The commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt had two direct calls with top Navy aides before his warning about the dire situation on board leaked…

foreignpolicy.com

https://archive.vn/p2IiG
https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...a-carrier-captain-crozier-theodore-roosevelt/

Navy leaders have not determined how Crozier’s letter leaked, but Modly said in a press conference on Thursday that he had “lost confidence” in the dismissed skipper’s decision-making and judgment over the incident. While the email was not classified, Modly slammed Crozier’s decision to copy 20 to 30 people not in the direct chain of command, enhancing the likelihood of its public release. Portions of the message pointing to the ship’s readiness for combat should have been classified, the source familiar with the conversations told Foreign Policy, and Crozier made “an emotional argument” by saying that 50 sailors on board could die.

 

[HonsPonzud]

Seems like a trend we already seen in France before slowly "allowing it" back but in the most innefective way it needs to be used ( treating patients in severe condition with it is completely counter productive to the drug mixed with Zpack)

A week ago that governor banned the use of HQC and now he hoards all the supplies :

Nevada Governor Sisolak Found Hoarding Coronavirus Treatment Drug

Just about a week after the Trump hating Democrat Governor of Nevada limited the ability for physicians to prescribe Hydroxychloroquine to treat Corona virus, news broke that Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak’s own Department of Corrections has been hoarding the drug for prisoners. Sisolak claimed...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

http://archive.li/EPAaI

Again "do what i say, and don't look at what i'm doing". Got caught doing this. Really makes you think.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

To everyone claiming that just because it would be extremely fucking retarded for Xi to intentionally piss off the US navy. This is your reminder than this is Xi we're talking about. He is retarded.

Looks like you were right @EmuWarsVeteran , we have over 400 new cases today, a lot of them highly localized again. 14 more people died too. According to latest statistics, almost 20% of all infections - almost 500 all in all, probably more now because this was about yesterday's numbers - are medical personnel. And God knows how many of the remaining cases are their patients as well as nursing house residents and caretakers. Ridiculous. I honestly don't even know if they're running out of protective supplies or just don't follow safety regulations. Everyone's effort and sacrifice could be in vain because of this bullshit. Rough times ahead.

It's not really lack of regulation. In fact you're escalating much slower than the model, the curve is being flattened, this is how "success" looks like in epidemiology. It's normal as lockdowns go to have more healthcare personnel infected proportionally. Because not even the best safety regulation can protect you 100% while you're shoving tubes down people's throats, because not even the best training and discipline can keep doctors from doing small fuckups as the turns get longer and the organization gets more and more strained, because no PPE is 100% efficient, and because once one little fuckup gets a single nurse infected, they're gonna unknowingly carry the virus into areas less defended, including their homes, and poland seems to have as strong of a family unit and as traditional a mindset as spain, meaning professions tend to run in the family, so healthcare professionals tend to live with other healthcare professionals.

Remember our first outbreak here. 1 stupid patient and his dumb wife got infected while being treated for traumatic injury. Result was 50 infected, most of which were healthcare personnel. Just a little fuckup like not noticing that guy's cough and the one or two nurses that get infected can quickly spread it to their colleagues even in the best of cases.

I'd say you're doing great all things considered. It may look bleak to the untrained, but, this is how epidemics always go. 14 deaths a day is honestly not that bad at all. Just for comparison, now that we've hit peak we're at 900 a day. And that's without triage. I'd say it won't get as bad for you but, 900 for us is what relative success looks like. Failure would've been substantially bleaker.

 

[Not Really Here]

When you read articles like this it seems like Crozier screwed up by leaking the memo which contained readiness information

Navy Brass Felt Blindsided by Fired Carrier Captain’s Emailed Appeal

The commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt had two direct calls with top Navy aides before his warning about the dire situation on board leaked…

foreignpolicy.com

https://archive.vn/p2IiG
https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...a-carrier-captain-crozier-theodore-roosevelt/

The """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""leak""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""from either a panicking skipper or a grandstanding fool.
Source / Archive

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Wisconsin health official says COVID-19 curve is flattening (archive)

The outlook is starting to look good for the state of Wisconsin. They haven't hit their peak yet, but the increases in cases per day has lowered considerably in percentages, to the point where health officials are confidently saying that the curve is flattening in the state. Currently, the increase in the number of cases are way under the initial projection in early March.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

When you read articles like this it seems like Crozier screwed up by leaking the memo which contained readiness information

Navy Brass Felt Blindsided by Fired Carrier Captain’s Emailed Appeal

The commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt had two direct calls with top Navy aides before his warning about the dire situation on board leaked…

foreignpolicy.com

https://archive.vn/p2IiG
https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...a-carrier-captain-crozier-theodore-roosevelt/

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Yeah. He's a big blubbering vagina, he shouldn't be in charge of a major US capital ship . Sending that info unclassified is serious enough. CCing in 2 dozen other people is clearly a bitch move to try and get things done his way.
Send that email protectively marked to your direct chain of command. Follow up that chain of command with urgency. DO NOT try playing normal office politics.

First , the situation wasn't that bad. he wasn't on fire and sinking.
Second, the article points out that he had another potential way to get things done at the expense of his career if he thought things were that bad, by phoning the defense secretary, bypassing his chain of command.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

What do you say now, Mr. Brapwell?
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Rep. Eric Swalwell on Twitter

“Stop wearing face masks. #coronavirus”

twitter.com

https://archive.li/SUJ4E

Just in case he tries to walk it back. Though it sounds like he's going with a "Trump told me to say that" move.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

The """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""leak""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""from either a panicking skipper or a grandstanding fool.

You can read his letter here

Exclusive: Captain of aircraft carrier with growing coronavirus outbreak pleads for help from Navy

The captain of a nuclear aircraft carrier docked in Guam with more than 100 coronavirus-infected sailors aboard pleaded Monday with U.S. Navy officials for more resources. Capt. Brett Crozier, a Santa Rosa native, says the entire crew of more than 4,000 should be isolated to avoid possible...

www.sfchronicle.com

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I do feel kind of bad for Crozier though. He did what he could to protect his crew, even though he probably knew he was gonna get canned for it by some cunt sitting behind a desk. Sometimes the captain has to walk the plank for the good of the crew I guess.