Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I saw that clip posted on another forum who mentionned then the numbers of people killed by corona-chan might be inflated.

I don't how long that clip will stay on Youtube, it'll be a miracle if it stay more longer then I thought. It's already been posted on Bitchute as well.


Many autopsies are being avoided because morticians do not want to preform them during a pandemic so many do not want to preform them. Furthermore countries do not want to waste precious test kits on corpses so things are not accurate to say the least and would probably even out for the most part. In my apartment complex there was a raunchy smell and people called it in and it was a dead guy that got taken out by hazmat people.
 
I was using the world wide statistics not the US only since this is a global issue.

COPE HARDER.

This isn't reddit. "Cope harder" isn't an argument.
You're a doomer, we get it. Your data is incorrect, but you're entitled to your opinion. Screeching COPE HARDER is some newfag shit. Like fuck off.

People have different opinions, experts have different opinions on this. Shutting down people's opinions just proves yours is too weak to cope with outside scrutiny. Stop shitting up this already shitted up thread with your whining.
 
They already have told us all that these will not be optional installations. In the next few weeks every single Android and iOS phone will get a "security update" that will include these apps. And yes, the only way to stop the abuse of these apps is to literally not make them in the first place.

From now on you can assume any phone you use that was made post oh, May 2020 is spying on your location and associations 24/7.
You're naive if you think they weren't before.
 
This isn't reddit. "Cope harder" isn't an argument.
You're a doomer, we get it. Your data is incorrect, but you're entitled to your opinion. Screeching COPE HARDER is some newfag shit. Like fuck off.

People have different opinions, experts have different opinions on this. Shutting down people's opinions just proves yours is too weak to cope with outside scrutiny. Stop shitting up this already shitted up thread with your whining.

What else would you call it? People are coping and rightfully so. I understand what is going on and its fucked up but im also not hugboxing the idea that things are perfectly fine. Things are fucked up and will continue to be fucked up for quite some time. The difference is, is im lubing my ass when some people are ignoring it thinking its going to go back to normal times. In short some people just like to go raw dog on the issue.
 
They already have told us all that these will not be optional installations. In the next few weeks every single Android and iOS phone will get a "security update" that will include these apps. And yes, the only way to stop the abuse of these apps is to literally not make them in the first place.

From now on you can assume any phone you use that was made post oh, May 2020 is spying on your location and associations 24/7.
Soooooooo... Apple just released shiny new phones for the ridiculously low price of $200 each (via a Walmart special). Nobody knows why... I ordered one and I gotta wonder if the crazy low price has anything to do with tracking software or app compatibility...
 
Seriously fuck this mask shit. It's just making it worse. I've mentioned people touching their masks...shit today saw a 30 something guy take his mask off delicately by the ear strap...then proceed to fold the fucker into fourths and stuff it in his jeans pocket. Then he got into his truck, took the lid off a pepsi and started drinking. This is just fucking stupid at this point.
 
I'm calling bullshit about CA's unemployment system being down. But they just finished revamping a good chunk of CA government's old system back in 2019 and the project manager was one of the best from Livenation, who came over from being VP of network security (IRRC) and the person in charge of project design was one of the best from the low voltage industry and a major asshole when it comes to people not living up to expectations. So the idea that somehow their unemployment system fails after a 3 year modernization project doesn't add up.
I think the biggest issue with any state's unemployment system woes is the sheer volume of claims -- especially in the first couple of weeks after people saw their hours reduced or eliminated. Even if the designers performed stress testing before moving these systems into production (they did do stress testing, right?), I'm willing to bet they never considered the possibility that a pandemic would result in more claims being filed than they might anticipate or otherwise test for.

Why bother tracking deaths anymore now that they're just lying about it?
Because it's easy to take a raw death count and use it to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt about COVID-19. If people looked more at the rate of change in death numbers from day to day, they might realize the curve may flatten sooner than the media is forecasting -- if it hasn't already.

Johns Hopkins.

3,249,667 confirmed
232,936 Deaths
= 13.95% Fatality Rate
Thanks for proving my point about using raw numbers with no other context.

It’s also interesting that this doesn’t apply to the hundreds of thousands who lost their jobs completely under her authoritarian rules. Nope, gotta virtue signal and hand the gibs to those newly anointed saints of our society: the “essential” worker class.
I opined the same thing last night:
If non-essential workers have no prospect of returning to their jobs any time soon, shouldn't they also have the opportunity for free job (re)training to get them back into the workforce too?
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Y'know, hearing stories like this constantly makes one consider Kiwi Farms to be an actual, verifiable and reliable journalistic site. I mean, everything here gets cataloged and verified, when was the last time you saw any journalist site do verification (other than perhaps PC tech sites).
Makes a person feel warm and fuzzy when you can see, damn near in real time, the very diverse crowd of individuals here, which makes it very fucking hard to get fake shit slid past. The newspaper effect tends to be strong, and I am glad we have Kiwis that can call out the BS.
Many times, I've noticed the site seems to post news and happenings before the mainstream media (MSM) reports on it. While the MSM puts its on slant on what it reports, the 'Farms discussion is far more open, free, and encompasses all opinions across the political spectrum. NGL, I often trust what's reported here more than what's reported by the MSM.

Give me a monotonous, well-dressed, to-the-point newscaster who tells me the who, what where, when and possibly why, if concretely known.
I, too, miss the days where newscasters reported the essential details and nothing else so people could form their own opinions. Now, the MSM takes it upon itself to spoon-feed opinions to people even if it means cramming them down people's throats.

Is Wayne County outside Detroit a great place to live?
This is one of those questions where "it depends" is an appropriate answer. There's areas near the westernmost border and the far northeast corner of the county that are well off and good places to live in for those able to afford the houses and lifestyle. Conversely, some of the communities immediately bordering Detroit on the west and southwest are changing for the worse as Detroit's lower-class element moves outward. Someone I know in one such community installed a doorbell camera on account of the increasing crime in that neighborhood. Upon reviewing the footage, it's a near-nightly thing to see to see random people wandering through the neighborhood at all hours of the night randomly casing houses and the neighborhood as a whole. Needless to say, the person wants to move out as soon as it's feasible.

Inb4 Dem govs are bolstered by this into attempting to become pety dictators and people beg Trump to kickstart the Boog to stop them.
It's funny how the Demoocrats are quick to find ways to block Trump's executive orders they disagree with while Democratic Governors feel they should be allowed to make similar executive orders without any sort of check and balance on them.

From now on you can assume any phone you use that was made post oh, May 2020 is spying on your location and associations 24/7.
It's stuff like this that makes some people want to keep their older smart phones and not replace them with something newer/better unless they have no choice.

I'm going to try and use my free time until I get back to work to get my ducks in a row because hard times are ahead. Big spending on frivolous things is out of the question. When I hear that people have taken their Trumpbux and used them to get 4k big screen TVs, I have to wonder if there's any sanity left in this world.
The real push should be about telecommuting. Tons of jobs, especially in the cities, can be done telecommuting.
I'm thankful to be working from home right now with brief check-ins at the office three times a week. It's worked well so far. Still, the combination of COVID-19 and other factors are such that my job's future beyond summer is in question. So, I've also taken measures to get my ducks in a row and spend only what's absolutely necessary just in case the worst-case scenario happens.
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Outside China

3,169,231 confirmed / 228,620 dead / 935,990 recovered

3109942 / 223001 / 894245

USA

1,069,534 confirmed / 63,001 dead / 153,947 recovered JohnHopkins
1,075,676 confirmed / 62,107 dead / 152,324 recovered Infection2020

1039909 / 60967 / 120720 yesterday JohnHopkins
1042251 / 60257 / 147411 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

213,435 confirmed / 24,543 dead / 112050 recovered

236899 / 24275 / 132929 yesterday

Italy

205,463 confirmed / 27,967 dead / 75,945 recovered

203591 / 27682 / 71252 yesterday

France

167,299 confirmed / 24,410 dead / 50,380 recovered

166543 / 24121 / 49118 yesterday

Germany

163,009 confirmed / 6,623 dead / 123,500

161539 / 6467 / 120400 yesterday



Infection2020 hasnt updated NYC dead for a week which is one reason there is around a 900 gap in the dead count between it and John Hopkins. Chances are there are other city/ counties that have not been updated also adding to this.
 
What else would you call it? People are coping and rightfully so. I understand what is going on and its fucked up but im also not hugboxing the idea that things are perfectly fine. Things are fucked up and will continue to be fucked up for quite some time. The difference is, is im lubing my ass when some people are ignoring it thinking its going to go back to normal times. In short some people just like to go raw dog on the issue.

The problem is your arguments make no sense. You are saying we all need to stay locked in our houses because the death rate is over 13% of confirmed cases. But you are willfully ignoring the issue that the only way to confirm a case is to test for it, and our testing capacity is severely restrained atm. With a large percentage of what is available being applied to people on deaths door.

This is the same statistical problem doomers run into when they start shrieking about the death rate of people admitted to a hospital. ZOMG! DID YOU KNOW THAT 10% OF PEOPLE ADMITTED TO HOSPITAL NEVER COME OUT ALIVE?????!!!???

Ignoring of course the fact that the fact you are admitted to hospital in the first place is because something has gone seriously wrong with you and death is a possibility. There is a term for this. "Lying with Statistics". You can say 13% of all CONFIRMED coronavirus cases lead to death. .
You then imply (as you are doing now) that ALL coronavirus cases have a 13% chance of death. But that is not true. It is a lie.

A LIE you are stating boldly right here and right now.

Because we know for a fact the CONFIRMED case number does not equal the ACTUAL case number. And that differential in the equation is a very big fucking deal.
 
What else would you call it? People are coping and rightfully so. I understand what is going on and its fucked up but im also not hugboxing the idea that things are perfectly fine. Things are fucked up and will continue to be fucked up for quite some time. The difference is, is im lubing my ass when some people are ignoring it thinking its going to go back to normal times. In short some people just like to go raw dog on the issue.
Okay, but why all the unwarranted smugness though?
The problem is your arguments make no sense. You are saying we all need to stay locked in our houses because the death rate is over 13% of confirmed cases. But you are willfully ignoring the issue that the only way to confirm a case is to test for it, and our testing capacity is severely restrained atm. With a large percentage of what is available being applied to people on deaths door.

This is the same statistical problem doomers run into when they start shrieking about the death rate of people admitted to a hospital. ZOMG! DID YOU KNOW THAT 10% OF PEOPLE ADMITTED TO HOSPITAL NEVER COME OUT ALIVE????‽!‽??

Ignoring of course the fact that the fact you are admitted to hospital in the first place is because something has gone seriously wrong with you and death is a possibility. There is a term for this. "Lying with Statistics". You can say 13% of all CONFIRMED coronavirus cases lead to death. .
You then imply (as you are doing now) that ALL coronavirus cases have a 13% chance of death. But that is not true. It is a lie.

A LIE you are stating boldly right here and right now.

Because we know for a fact the CONFIRMED case number does not equal the ACTUAL case number. And that differential in the equation is a very big fucking deal.
This is the part where he moves the goalposts back to "I'm not taking sides here, I'm just laughing at people who don't realize that they're powerless. :story: :story: :story: "
 
I know the data seems to indicate this is a nothing burger, but it sure doesn't feel like it. Since this began my facility has lost over 100 team members. Our ability to manufacture and get product to market is severely compromised. The situation has deteriorated badly this week.

Last night my employer shut down due to the amount of Coronavirus infections and will be down for several days. With us being down, the production and distribution of certain food goods to the Northeastern United States is completely knocked out. Even when and if we come up in a timely manner there will be serious shortages for quite some time.
 
I know the data seems to indicate this is a nothing burger, but it sure doesn't feel like it. Since this began my facility has lost over 100 team members. Our ability to manufacture and get product to market is severely compromised. The situation has deteriorated badly this week.

Last night my employer shut down due to the amount of Coronavirus infections and will be down for several days. With us being down, the production and distribution of certain food goods to the Northeastern United States is completely knocked out. Even when and if we come up in a timely manner there will be serious shortages for quite some time.

It's not a nothing burger. This disease is dangerous and it carries risk. The issue is people need to stop cowering in their bedrooms and shoulder the risk. We have lived fat and happy lives for decades off the self sacrifice and death of people who came before us. I am absolutely appalled at how soft our society has become that we are brought to our knees by a viral pneumonia that in the worst case estimate (not @Disheveled Human estimates) has a 1-3% death rate. Mostly among the old and infirm. 100 years ago we would have been thrilled to get things that low.
 
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Okay, but why all the unwarranted smugness though?

Because shits fucked from a health standpoint and from an economic standpoint and its worldwide. Ask yourself what are you going to do. What I am doing is prepping while not trying to get sick. Looking at what governments and media are saying seems like shit is going to become a dumpster fire. Yes I hate the government and media but a broken clock is right twice a day and to me its obvious the current times are not a joke. Hard times are going to happen weather it be the virus, war or a combination of the two. Shit is going down the entire world market doesn't close over a basic bitch flu.
 
No I wish things to be returned back to normal as soon as possible. My route for it is following. What I am being told to do, not because I want to but because it is going to be the fastest route. Crying about it won't help. I understand that freedom in life is a privilege. I do not lie to myself thinking I have any real say in the matter. Americans are beginning to wake up on this matter sure you can say what you want without going to jail but a minor cough happens and now your movement is now regulated by the state. Huh seems like your rights never existed. Keep thinking you can enact change in any real sense its hilarious.
You didn't answer the question about your employment status
 
Because shits fucked from a health standpoint and from an economic standpoint and its worldwide. Ask yourself what are you going to do. What I am doing is prepping while not trying to get sick. Looking at what governments and media are saying seems like shit is going to become a dumpster fire. Yes I hate the government and media but a broken clock is right twice a day and to me its obvious the current times are not a joke. Hard times are going to happen weather it be the virus, war or a combination of the two. Shit is going down the entire world market doesn't close over a basic bitch flu.
Stupid bitch I welcome covid and it will make me stronger. Fuck the old fags.
 
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