Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

4,091,273 confirmed / 281,334 dead / 1,376,664 recovered

4017488 / 278057 / 1329627 yesterday

USA

1,347,388 confirmed / 80,397 dead / 232,733 recovered JohnHopkins
1,363,187 confirmed / 81,447 dead / 262,255 recovered Infection2020

1329203 / 79525 / 216169 yesterday JohnHopkins
1345522 / 80494 / 256366 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

277,436 confirmed / 26,744 dead / 137,139 recovered

224350 / 26621 / 136166 yesterday

Italy

219,814 confirmed / 30,739 dead / 106,587 recovered

219070 / 30560 / 105186 yesterday

France

177,547 confirmed / 26,646 dead / 56,835 recovered

177094 / 26383 / 56327 yesterday

Germany

172,576 confirmed / 7,661 dead / 145,617 recovered

171879 / 7569 / 144400 yesterday

 

[NyQuilninja]

Because it's nigh-impossible to buy a home any more in the US without a fucking HOA attached. Believe me, we tried.

I give ours a ration of shit every chance I get. In fact in my response to their letter to us complaining about our lawn, I made it a point to passive-aggressively thank them for their patience while we worked to address their property value concerns during the pandemic. The trick is to never be openly hostile but always call out the stupid shit they say in the nicest way possible (and never directly respond to their threats -- that gets them hard and I relish denying them that pleasure). It absolutely boils their blood and there's fuck all they can do about it.

The worst thing about HOAs isn't necessarily the HOA organization itself. It's the shit neighbors who are a narc on you for various meaningless bullshit that feeds the HOA the vital nutrients it needs to thrive. Like I said in my previous post, I'm sure the latest "fix your lawn, or we'll sue you" letter is a direct result of our next door neighbor's landlord wanting to sell their property and having a weed-infested lawn next door is probably attracting some low-ball offers. We've already hired a company to replace the lawn, but it's fun to let the little weasels stew in their own bile for a while first.

It clearly never occurred to them that if they'd tried just talking to us a couple of months back when they decided to sell, the lawn would have already been replaced by now. Oh, well. That's what they get for snitching like children instead of behaving like adults.

Depends on where you live There’s a few HOA communities in my area But their new developments Often town homes or condos. The single family homes that are HOA’s Communities are very expense 300k and on up and are for the rich folks. I my own home and my neighborhood isn’t HOA neither is most of my city or state. HOA is a scam Akin to paying lot rent

 

[Tecumseh]

No. Most of europe is LITTERED with corpses. Spain is literally PAVED with corpses, as in the actual roads were stuffed with them. And despite the fact that the dead still have living family members who have repeatedly tried to find proper burial because catholics think you can't go to heaven if you're not buried in holy ground, the PP has repeatedly passed laws that make it impossible and ensure the victims of franco remain inside our roads and El Valle De Los Caidos specifically to deny them that relief. Welcome to fascism btw. They won't just kill you. They'll deny your humanity and erase your name from the historical records. Because it's not enough to kill those who disagree with them. It must be as if no one disagreed to begin with. We were ALWAYS at war with Eurasia.

Is it blatant that this is a fairly candent topic for spaniards? Am I being obvious enough? Yeah this is a very candent topic for spaniards. Specially because as I mentioned before the regime marked everyone suspected of being a republican as such, leading to many of the people who fought on the nationalist side being buried there too and erased despite their families being able to prove their loyalty. Because the regime will never admit it ever made a mistake to begin with. No matter how loyal they were. Franco said they were not human, and so it shall be. This is what fighting for the wrong side gets you. Even if you win, they'll find a way to destroy you all the same.

EDIT: btw. This is what awaited britain too had Chamberlain had their way with you like he and his french allies had with us in the early civil war. Just saying, thank your ancestors for realizing how fucking abhorrent fascism was and turning to Churchil before it got to you. Europe, all sides, backed Franco when the republic could stop him. This was the result. We have not forgotten that. But we can also acknowledge it was not the same europe that fought ww2. And all I can say is, you have no idea just how different the world would look had churchill not changed the political tide so drastically inbetween. You have no fucking idea how bad it would've gone if the "fascism makes the train works" meme had won.

Hemos pasado.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

My governor is already setting up for blaming Trump.

Even ignoring the TDS folks that have blamed Trump from the get-go, people are already quick to say Trump didn't do enough -- some of whom are the same ones who think Trump shouldn't get the Federal Government involved in state-level affairs. They don't get that they can't have it both ways.

These “Phased opening plans” are the perfect example of why nobody trusts experts anymore.

It also doesn't help when the reopening plans are influenced by partisan politics. Here, the governor seems to care more about constituents in her party working throughout this (pot shops) and reopening first (unionized auto industry) and hasn't done much to see what small businesses can and should open back up before they have to close for good.

Because it's nigh-impossible to buy a home anymore in the US without a fucking HOA attached. Believe me, we tried.

Some older neighborhoods thankfully don't have HOA's. Sadly, they're rare, but I'd like to think those areas without them realize nobody benefits from living somewhere with anal-retentive restrictions and an environment that fosters neighbors being rewarded for being nosy stool pigeons and not for looking out for each other.

25% capacity (I have no idea how we'll enforce this), wear masks, don't hold hands during the Our Father.

Like everyone at my parish is over the age of 70 so it's probably not going to go well.

Here, churches are waiting for the governor to move the state to the appropriate phase before opening back up for services. The biggest thing, especially for mega-churches, is social distancing. Social distancing means fewer people can attend, which means churches would have to hold more services to accommodate everyone -- something that isn't always feasible given space and time constraints. So, I foresee churches continuing to stream services for some time after reopening under restricted capacity. Older congregants are probably in a bind. They're usually the ones who feel obligated to attend services to fulfill their Sunday obligation, but they're also the ones in a category of vulnerable persons that need to be more careful. I see them being hesitant to go out to do anything right away as more restrictions lift.
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In the past week, my city has had 7 new cases and 3 deaths. Still, the case and death rates per 10k are 45.59 and 5.42 respectively. In the city I normally work in, the respective rates are 44.53 and 4.58. Recovery rates (which I'm unofficially defining as cases that don't result in death) seem to be 85% or better in the ZIP codes I've checked. This appears to be true even for the county's hot spots. Yet people in the entire county, and the entire state as a whole, are at the mercy of the hot spots.

 

[Ahriman]

Things back in Poland don't look good for foreigners.

 

[Allanon]

I'm amused that multiple people have explained why American measurements are the way they are and why they're not going to change, first in a perfectly reasonable and clear way, and then in a snarky way, and the response has been 'yeah but don't you understand metric is better??'

Walmart here has signs about requiring mask and facial coverings to enter the store, but has covered those up and don't even seem to be counting who's in the store anymore. I also spotted some employees without masks on. Roads are packed despite it being rainy. No one seems to be taking the pants on head extension seriously. Probably because the only cases even nearby have been in nursing homes.

 

[redcent]

Nsw records no new corona cases in last 24 hours

Hopefully this keeps up

 

[Overly Serious]

So New Orleans binmen went on strike over Coronavirus protection concerns (no gear, no hazard pay, no sick leave for suspected cases). Whilst I'm not fully convinced the concerns are justified they're the worker's concerns to have, not mine. How did New Orleans respond? Prison labour.

New Orleans Uses Prison Labor After Garbagemen Go On Strike

"They are really trying to use those dudes to do our job, and they paying them way less than they were paying us."

www.zerohedge.com

http://archive.vn/wwcUp

Prison labour - always a handy way of dealing with uppity people who think they have a right to compete in a free market.

Having more factors is nice, but it makes things a lot more difficult when you're dealing with numbers spanning several orders of magnitude. This doesn't matter so much for currency, but it'd be really annoying in engineering. Say, for example, that you defined 1 super-ounce to be 240 ounces, and 1 ultra-ounce to be 240 super-ounces. That means that there's 57,600 ounces in an ultra-ounce, and the next tier up would be 13,824,000 ounces. Dividing things into whole numbers doesn't really come into most engineering anyway, so easy factoring wouldn't even be much of an advantage. It just makes more sense to have your units use the same base system you use when writing numbers out.

Now, on the other hand, if we were to convert our numerals to a base-30 system, we could have the best of both worlds. But I'm pretty sure that the US wouldn't be the only ones to resist that change.

Oddly enough, a suggestion that we move to a non-base 10 number system was going to be my follow up suggestion.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Things back in Poland don't look good for foreigners.

Things everywhere will rapidly turn sour for migrants now the borders are fucked. That's the reality of pandemics. When job creation kicks into high gear they'll have it less shit but until then gg, buddy.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Things everywhere will rapidly turn sour for migrants now the borders are fucked. That's the reality of pandemics. When job creation kicks into high gear they'll have it less shit but until then gg, buddy.

Maybe this will finally bring together the political energy to expel them.

 

[HonsPonzud]

Heh, for those who followed this debacle since january, it's impressive that one america news network is actually doing it's fucking job while msm still lie about everything surrounding the "virus"

It's a news network supported by Trump on various previous tweets , and makes the links with G.Soros, B.Gates / Clintons that have funded, manned and worked with China deals to create that virus :

HALLELUJA THANK GOD TRUTH IS COMING OUT

PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION: https://www.change.org/p/rand-paul-stop-h-r-6666-from-being-passed-and-immediately-remove-all-supporting-parties-from-office-f67c8...

www.youtube.com

Looks like we might be going way, way further than Flynn, Obama / Clintons if this goes on.

Oh yeah, and, i don't know if it's the right thread for this but... Might want to look at this US H.R 6666 Bill introduced :

Text - H.R.6666 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act

Text for H.R.6666 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act

www.congress.gov

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

These “Phased opening plans” are the perfect example of why nobody trusts experts anymore. Any person with even a casual understanding of human nature knows exactly how things are going to re-open...[snip]...And this will begin happening naturally at 6 weeks, regardless of what any “experts“ say. You get sex weeks, that’s the maximum extent of most people’s patience unless the streets are filling with bodies.

I still say that the biggest mistake at least in the US was not setting a limit.

At the start it was “flatten the curve,” which is measurable, great! But then that got confused with “a vaccine will take two years” and just to be contrary, all the libs who apparently can all work from home forever without hurting started throwing that out along with the truly TRULY terrible optics of privileged libs thriving from home calling anyone wanting to go back to work a billionaire shill only worried about their stock prices or a Karen wanting to cover her roots. So now the lib position turned into stay home for two years if you have to, if you don’t want that it can’t be due to fear for your family’s future, that don’t real. There could not have been a stance more perfectly calibrated to enrage normal people than that one. Such disregard for everyday people.

So I think if perhaps from the start it had been, we estimate it will take two months to flatten the curve to an acceptable (measurable!) level following these restrictions: <whatever short of house arrest for all Americans>. People would complain but they would have in their heads something to hope for. Instead the combination of no time limit and abandoning the measurable curve flattening factor in favor of bleating MAYBE TWO YEARS just meant no one was going to take it much longer. You cannot expect people to agree to suffer indefinitely.

Why the fuck do people have these? They're nothing but pain, petty vandalism, arrogance and stupidity. HOAs are nearly non-existent in this country. I don't understand how anyone can tolerate them.

At least overweening government bureaucrats can hide behind the colour of law and have nominal restrictions on the impositions they can throw at you. What's a HOA? A bunch of jumped-up faggots, boomers, and curtain-twitching karens who get their panties soaked at the thought of controlling the shape and shade of your lawn. Fuck that.

What country is that? Because in this country, in my state and community at least, if you don’t live far enough out that you can put a few acres between you and your neighbors, and you don’t live in a city in multi family housing, you likely have a house with some sort of yard and driveway but less than a half acre total so right up against neighbors. And if you don’t have anything preventing it, you are relying on the cops to keep your neighbors from turning their front yard into a museum of derelict vehicles. And that doesn’t work, plus the kinds of people who turn their yards into derelict vehicle habitats do not take kindly to neighbors calling the cops. Without citizens agreeing to enforce certain standards in their community, every community turns into a goddamn trailer park in spirit and often literally. Not all HOAs have the same rules, it’s up to the individual to not join a HOA that has rules they can’t deal with. Including a lack of rules about what it takes to change the rules. Make sure it takes a vote upwards of 80% of members in order to change, add, or delete a rule. That’s how you keep Rick and Karen from using their copious free time to take over the board and do whatever they want. Some HOAs only cost like $30/mo, some hundreds or even thousands, usually relative to property value. Just make sure the rules are ones that sound reasonable to you and walk away if they don’t.

 

[HonsPonzud]

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Alternative Title: Cuomo admits he killed thousands of Elderly New Yorkers.

They've done the same in europe.

We are fully under control of the fucking Deep State funded Warren Buffet / G. Soros here ( G.soros even owns a lot of parts of the european human rights court, that never ever really work for human rights of course, or very very selectively on countries he wants to destabilize to profits from Bonds. )

In every countries they typically scared the shit out of nurses / carers in elderly homes, they completely fled their job and these care units for elders, litterally leaving them there to rot, dehydrate, starve, untreated, unattended to, at the point where people started to wonder why no one was coming in or out, in Belgium some of the most in shape elders took the risk of going out and reaching to citizens, then the government only sent the army and police to replace the nurses ( Right, continue clapping for these cowards, retards )

http://www.kxan36news.com/the-belgian-army-is-deployed-in-a-home-for-the-elderly-in-sint-jans-molenbeek

Scared shitless by the media they had to train the staff in order for them to go back to work :

Belgian army trains care home staff

The Belgian army has sent six medical experts to care homes for the elderly in Aalst (East Flanders). The specialists will provide extra training for care home staff to improve efforts to combat coronavirus. 250 care home staff at 4 homes are gettin

www.vrt.be

The worst is France in this, they forbidden the use of hydroxychloroquine, on the pretense it had slight undesirable effect, that have yet to be proven of course, every meds have side effects, but Authorized a forbidden drug suddenly early in February, the Rivotril, to be administrated swiftly on the "suspition" only, not even needing a fucking test, on the sole suspicion of a cold / fever / cough symptoms. Pure fear driven euthanasy. And listen to this :

This drug was forbidden to use especially in case of respiratory issues !! It is actually the most painful , stressful and inhumane way to kill an human being possible that is suffering from any breathing / pulmonary infection !!!

I'm pretty sure all of this is making Black Rock pension's fund bank very happy, since the ceo of Blackrock received early this year the "honorory legion medal of the French academy" in early january.

All of europe is corrupt, France first with Macron, Macron is a very dangerous puppet that is selling it's people now to BAIN , an auxiliary mossad led enterprise used by the past to lay off people from IBM and a few nefarious shit all across Africa. This is the enterprise France chose to lead the release of the lockdown currently taking place in France (they enforce rules very drastically and fees on citizen, coordinate a lot of the police / action force, we are under complete occupation there)

This is just like living in your worst Blue State enforcing everything the WHO wants. I'm fucking disgusted.

 

[moocow]

Can the weild any actual legal authority? Like, can you just tell them to go fuck themselves?

Sadly, yes they can. It's what makes HOAs obnoxious. For something like this, they can levy fines and place a lien against the property if they're not paid. In extreme cases they can sue to force the owner to sell the property, but "a dying lawn with weeds" doesn't come close to that scale.

That's if you ignore them, though. Realistically speaking, if you take any action at all towards resolving an HOA's complaint (even if it's just writing a letter back saying "yeah, we'll work on it," it defangs them in court for all intents and purposes, since you can show you're working in good faith to cure the issue and not just ignoring them.

This is why the "go fuck yourself" letter needs to be accompanied by a bit of action to back it up. In our case, after chastising them for caring about property values above all else (and not even bothering to acknowledge kung flu or ask after our well-being), I included a brief mention of having contracted a landscaping company to replace the dying lawn and gave contact information for them to verify. Because we're doing exactly what they demanded of us, all they can do is stew in their own juices if they don't like the tone of my response. If they try to litigate, we can just show the judge the contract and receipt and say "wtf dude, we literally acted within days of receiving the letter, what the hell do they want?"

They pulled this shit a few years ago too (this fucking lawn has been the bane of my existence ever since we bought this house) and all we did was plant some grass plugs in the dead spots, and that was enough to satisfy them. This time enough of it's dead that it would take a lot of plugs to try to restore it, and it'll probably just die again anyway.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

The worst is France in this, they forbidden the use of hydroxychloroquine, on the pretense it had slight undesirable effect, that have yet to be proven of course, every meds have side effects, but Authorized a forbidden drug suddenly early in February, the Rivotril, to be administrated swiftly on the "suspition" only, not even needing a fucking test, on the sole suspicion of a cold / fever / cough symptoms. Pure fear driven euthanasy.

...clonazepam?

Well that doesn't make much sense.

 

[HonsPonzud]

...clonazepam?

Well that doesn't make much sense.

Yeah !! You would do that if you want your fucking patient to die in a long, painfull and very inner "stressfull" way, I mean, it's like you being enclosed in your body dying full knowing you are SUFFOCATING !!! IT IS completely FORBIDDEN for that SPECIFIC use ! Not only you have no chance of survival but you are fully aware of dying, at that old age, trapped inside your body. It's not really sedating you in the common sense or way anyone thinks sedation works, it is mostly given for epileptic seizures. The secondary effects are also nightmarish for people suffering from Breathing issues. ( Nightmare, intense anguish/stress, agitation, irritability ) It also facilitate muscular de coordination and weakness in the breathing capacity.

My main gripe with this, is that euthanazy is not legal in France, and this is the most inhumane way to let someone go for Respiratory problems and they allowed it to be used on mass scale in elderly care homes at the slightest sign of symptoms !!!

 

[Allanon]

Given that even counting NYC and bloating the death count literally as much as humanly possible they can only get the death count to 1k a day nationwide, there's no excuse for a lockdown anywhere anymore.

20k infected, 800 dead, 16k recovered? Sorry. but the outbreak panic is just done. It makes me wonder how many states have only a handful or zero deaths yesterday.

 

[#zzz]

It's been interesting how the Australian media have been doing things.

 

[Barnard]

In every countries they typically scared the shit out of nurses / carers in elderly homes, they completely fled their job and these care units for elders, litterally leaving them there to rot, dehydrate, starve, untreated, unattended to, at the point where people started to wonder why no one was coming in or out, in Belgium some of the most in shape elders took the risk of going out and reaching to citizens, then the government only sent the army and police to replace the nurses ( Right, continue clapping for these cowards, exceptional individuals )

There was one case like that over here (Poland), the staff of a privately owned nursing home simply fucked off when the virus came along, leaving a single nurse to take care of everyone. The regional gov't representative delegated some public healthcare workers to replace them, but most refused (to be fair, many had legitimate reasons). He later got some political flak, but honestly, what the hell was he supposed to do? Fortunately this was just an isolated case.

 

[FatalTater]

And if you don’t have anything preventing it, you are relying on the cops to keep your neighbors from turning their front yard into a museum of derelict vehicles. And that doesn’t work, plus the kinds of people who turn their yards into derelict vehicle habitats do not take kindly to neighbors calling the cops.

Around here we don't bother the cops with that kind of stuff. If a property has waist-high grass and corpses rotting on the lawn we contact the health department. They send an inspector to see if the place violates the city's guidelines for maximum rotting corpses and tall grass, and if it does the inspector sends a letter to the property owner detailing the problems and tells them to fix it within an amount of time or face fines. If the letter gets ignored not only could there be fine but the city work crews will come clean things up to standard and send the owner a bill, and city crews don't work cheap. It's not a perfect system but it still beats the hell out of HOAs in my opinion.