Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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How will we ever recover?

We must give up all our freedoms, of course. It's for everyone else, you see, you're selfish if you don't.

You know, I don't understand that argument. What if I am, in fact, a selfish asshole who doesn't care if someone I don't know catches the 'rona?
 
Lately, I have been feeling pretty disappointed in how many cases are in the US (even though I am convinced that China has more but it will never be known). I feel there wouldn't be as many cases as there is if people didn't make this virus a fucking political slapfight with masks and protests.

That being said, Twitter is really getting to me to the point where I don't want to hear about cases in the US. It's just depressing to hear about how other countries are doing better and the cynicism from everyone.

Other countries aren't doing better. They just aren't bothering to test. Death's have dropped well below the threshold required for Pandemic. Both US and World. The spikes you see in spots of Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc? Those are the counties that are offering free testing to anybody and everybody no questions asked. They are getting a zillion test subjects because they are free, and the employers are requiring tests before they can return to work. The actual ratio of positive to negative tests is remarkably flat. The media and in particular Social Media is driving everyone into a paranoid frenzy through bad data manipulation. The Health Departments all know this. They are encouraging it, because they don't want the Federal Dollars to stop flowing. (And I know this as absolute fact from first person sources. They went into a panic when the money nearly got shut July 1.) Do you want to know how you cure this horrible horrible pandemic? STOP PAYING FOR IT TO KEEP GOING!
 
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Oooh! He can’t possibly be a faggot! He’s so manly!!!
 
Following Georgia, Atlanta's mayor went back to Phase 1 and forced 'masks are mandatory' despite the deaths dropping + cases getting milder in general + more testing. I guess she got paranoid that she herself just recently got it. And Kemp is going 'how are you going to enforce this lol' and she didn't reply back.
Just like Wakanda. Niggers gonna nig.

My dad just recently got it, he's almost 60 years old and has diabetes.

Do I have to worry?
Worry profits a man nothing.
 
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Other countries aren't doing better. They just aren't bothering to test. Death's have dropped well below the threshold required for Pandemic. Both US and World. The spikes you see in spots of Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc? Those are the counties that are offering free testing to anybody and everybody no questions asked. They are getting a zillion test subjects because they are free, and the employers are requiring tests before they can return to work. The actual ratio of positive to negative tests is remarkably flat. The media and in particular Social Media is driving everyone into a paranoid frenzy through bad data manipulation. The Health Departments all know this. They are encouraging it, because they don't want the Federal Dollars to stop flowing. (And I know this as absolute fact from first person sources. They went into a panic when the money nearly got shut July 1.) Do you want to know how you cure this horrible horrible pandemic? STOP PAYING FOR IT TO KEEP GOING!
I am truly disappointing that Trump and his administration haven't done anything to stop the funding.
 
Other countries aren't doing better. They just aren't bothering to test. Death's have dropped well below the threshold required for Pandemic. Both US and World. The spikes you see in spots of Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc? Those are the counties that are offering free testing to anybody and everybody no questions asked.
Last I checked we aren't spiking though.
Its why the narrative dropped "Georgia, Florida and Texas" and replaced it with "Arizona, Florida and Texas".

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I was wrong. We are showing spikes correlating with increased testing but deaths are still plummeting,

 
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Idk about the other red zone counties in Ohio, but Cuyahoga county will put you in jail if enough Karens snitch
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Meanwhile they're saying Cuyahoga county is nearing code purple. I'm 95 percent sure that means they're going to go full lockdown again. I'd love to be Proven wrong. Fuck DeWine. Fuck Budish.

This would be quite amusing to test. Given that there is no actual Law Authorizing any of this. No Prior Case Law. And the Public Health Laws are specifically required to be used and enforced as narrowly as possible.
 
Idk about the other red zone counties in Ohio, but Cuyahoga county will put you in jail if enough Karens snitch
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Meanwhile they're saying Cuyahoga county is nearing code purple. I'm 95 percent sure that means they're going to go full lockdown again. I'd love to be Proven wrong. Fuck DeWine. Fuck Budish.

Now they're just borrowing from what Whitmer wants in Michigan. I'd avoid the cities, but if this was an actual matter of law, I don't think the police and sheriffs could just blow off enforcement like they've been down here. I mean, both the Butler County Sheriff and Health Department have said they're not enforcing it and the Cincinnati PD won't enforce it, said it's a health order, so bitch at the health department. DeWine's order doesn't even lay out who's supposed to be enforcing it.

We are, however, talking about Cleveland. Didn't the dumbass in charge want to mandate having to wear masks while driving alone in your car?
 
Last I checked we aren't spiking though.
Its why the narrative dropped "Georgia, Florida and Texas" and replaced it with "Arizona, Florida and Texas".

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I was wrong. We are showing spikes correlating with increased testing but deaths are still plummeting,


Trust me, I am a bit more "personally intertwined" with the Georgia testing Regime. Right now the spikes are very clearly in the Counties that are A. Offering Free Testing, B. Testing anyone and not requiring County or State Residence. C. Are only opening up th etesting schedule 48 hours in advance so people from other areas can spam the phone lines in the morning hoping to get a test without waiting 2 weeks. or D. Scheduling testing for large blocks, such as the entire employees of a business (which are supposed to be kicked over to teh Nat'l Guard). The public Health Officials KNOW THIS. But they are getting $$$/test. They are on hiring sprees and their importance within the State and County Governments is the most it's ever been. Why the Surgeon General even came to visit them last week! THEY'RE SPECIAL! OK, you know that predatory camera hungry instant celebrity look you see on Fauci's face every time he gets media attention? This is happening all down the DOH Management Food Chains. The Rank and File DOH Employees are growing furious about all of this. They want to go back to their regular jobs. Most of the counties surrounding Atlanta haven't had restaurant inspections since February or so. (Yeah the risk in Restaurants is not the Wu Flu, it's every other food borne illness available) The Environmental Health staff is all working the "COVID-19 ALL THE TIME" drill. No Water Testing. No Immunizations or Childrens Dental Services. Because the County Health Directors think they have become "Self Financing" via COVID.
 
Trust me, I am a bit more "personally intertwined" with the Georgia testing Regime. Right now the spikes are very clearly in the Counties that are A. Offering Free Testing, B. Testing anyone and not requiring County or State Residence. C. Are only opening up th etesting schedule 48 hours in advance so people from other areas can spam the phone lines in the morning hoping to get a test without waiting 2 weeks. or D. Scheduling testing for large blocks, such as the entire employees of a business (which are supposed to be kicked over to teh Nat'l Guard). The public Health Officials KNOW THIS. But they are getting $$$/test. They are on hiring sprees and their importance within the State and County Governments is the most it's ever been. Why the Surgeon General even came to visit them last week! THEY'RE SPECIAL! OK, you know that predatory camera hungry instant celebrity look you see on Fauci's face every time he gets media attention? This is happening all down the DOH Management Food Chains. The Rank and File DOH Employees are growing furious about all of this. They want to go back to their regular jobs. Most of the counties surrounding Atlanta haven't had restaurant inspections since February or so. (Yeah the risk in Restaurants is not the Wu Flu, it's every other food borne illness available) The Environmental Health staff is all working the "COVID-19 ALL THE TIME" drill. No Water Testing. No Immunizations or Childrens Dental Services. Because the County Health Directors think they have become "Self Financing" via COVID.

This is basically where we are in Ohio. Cases are surging in the counties where they're having free testing, but hospitalizations and deaths are not. At least on the hard data. The "Reported" numbers DeWine gives can't be trusted, since they've been reporting hospitalizations and deaths from months ago. Last week, for example, there was a March 17th death in with the "reported" death numbers. They just decided, that day, it was a COVID death.

It's in the CSV file they post on the state's COVID dashboard, they just know most people will blindly accept the numbers and not look into it.

Today's free testing was all in Warren county, so they're next and I'll bet DeWine wants to come down on them hard, since the county government called out his bullshit numbers a couple weeks ago.
 
Idk about the other red zone counties in Ohio, but Cuyahoga county will put you in jail if enough Karens snitch
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Meanwhile they're saying Cuyahoga county is nearing code purple. I'm 95 percent sure that means they're going to go full lockdown again. I'd love to be Proven wrong. Fuck DeWine. Fuck Budish.

They say this virus spreads like wildfire in prisons and jails, so sure, let's put more people in jail just because they don't want to wear a mask! Genius thinking there.

I'm someone who doesn't mind wearing a mask in stores, but these idiots make me more and more anti-mask everyday.
 
This was also threatened as a penalty during our earliest stay home/safe orders back in March and April, but it was largely unenforced by local law enforcement because they didn't want their officers to pick up COVID-19 from nonessential workers out in public when they weren't supposed to be. In some cases, departments even decided routine traffic stops -- mainly for lesser civil infractions -- would also be put on the back burner for similar reasons.

@Cast Iron Pan already posted an article about Michigan's coming orders as of Monday (13-Jul), but here is an article from the Detroit Free Press about it:

(Archive #1: Michigan Mask Orders)

Masks will be required in many public settings, violation is a misdemeanor with $500 fine and no jail time, and enforcement is supposedly left to local police even though many have reiterated the fact they lack the time and resources. Alternatively, complaints can be sent to Attorney General's office (individuals in violation) or MIOSHA (for businesses) as appropriate. However, this might not last long. During the stay home/safe orders, the AG's office started telling people not to complain because they received too many complaints.

I'd also love to see how state leadership can talk about using a misdemeanor as a way to encourage compliance when it also turns a blind eye to protestors who have been ignoring existing recommendations for social distancing and mask wearing.

An interesting part is that the King of Jordan is donating masks to Michigan.
TFW something that should be seen as a kind gesture (Jordan's king donating masks) is questioned for potential ulterior motives. :heart-empty:

YES, absolutely. This way of living is totally anathema to most humans. Introverts, you may be fine, but the extroverts we all rely on to, you know, run society and deal with groups of more than one or two people are suffering greatly.
Not to mention some introverts still need some degree of regular interaction with people outside their household. Being pent up takes a toll on people whether obvious or imperceptible to them.

Michigan to require all medical professionals to undergo implicit bias training
I might have posted about this in the protest thread, but this now required for both new licensees and those that renew existing licenses when they come up for their next renewal. I've already heard that retirees who previously maintained their license so they could still serve as volunteers in their profession have already decided this requirement is such that they'd rather let their license expire and end their volunteer work than be forced to take part in a training session that may be be making the initial premise that all health care workers have an existing bias against minorities.

TL;DR - To address perceived bias, training that assumes everyone is biased seems to be the the cure-all solution of choice. :story:

In other Michigan COVID-19 news:

The city of Detroit has apparently doubled down on Sanctuary city policies with news of a $750k grant to provide stimulus type funds to illegal aliens undocumented immigrants. The money will not be given out by the city itself, but by a handful of local nonprofits.

Bonus fact: the grant money came from the Open Society Foundations, who the Free Press shamelessly reports as being founded by George Soros.

Article:

(Archive #2: Illegals to get SorosBux)

Edit to add: This is particularly frustrating. As part of my job, I've seen individual and business clients have their jobs put on hold and their businesses closed -- some for almost three straight months -- and be ineligible for any sort of financial assistance, which put them in true economic hardship as they tried to figure out what to do and how to pay their bills with limited or no income. Meanwhile, the City of Detroit accepts grant money so that illegals can visit one of the listed nonprofit agencies to get stimulus money just for them that was bankrolled by Soros. Why not help the legal residents who need the assistance to help pay bills and keep their businesses viable -- especially in a city where both businesses and decent paying jobs were already scarce before COVID-19 hit?
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This is basically where we are in Ohio. Cases are surging in the counties where they're having free testing, but hospitalizations and deaths are not. At least on the hard data. The "Reported" numbers DeWine gives can't be trusted, since they've been reporting hospitalizations and deaths from months ago. Last week, for example, there was a March 17th death in with the "reported" death numbers. They just decided, that day, it was a COVID death.

It's in the CSV file they post on the state's COVID dashboard, they just know most people will blindly accept the numbers and not look into it.

Today's free testing was all in Warren county, so they're next and I'll bet DeWine wants to come down on them hard, since the county government called out his bullshit numbers a couple weeks ago.

Yeah someone showed me this earlier. Hopefully I can link or embed Facebook Crap. It's DOH from somewhere explaining the current standards for a COVID-19 Death to be counted. It's quite literally "He has a Covid-19 positive test. And he is dead." They make it perfectly clear that the actual mechanism of death in no way plays into their accounting. And they had the small amount of decency to look ashamed about this. For example if a Terminal Patient is sent to Hospice, and he contracts the WuFlu in Hospice, he died of COVID-19. George "I Can't Breathe" Floyd, is on the State and Federal lists as having died of COVID-19. (And boy wont the Defense Lawyers have fun with that?)

 
violation is a misdemeanor with $500 fine
And now the Covid Emergency Will NEVER EVER END because it will now be a massive cash cow.

Why not help the legal residents who need the assistance to help pay bills and keep their businesses viable -- especially in a city where both businesses and decent paying jobs were already scarce before COVID-19 hit?
Because the point is not to help people, the point is to make things even more of a shit show.
 
Article on the Israel experience. They were able to get it under control, but reopened the schools and business to quickly. So now bars, clubs and gyms are closed again and restaurants have a 20-person cap. It has spread to the Palestinian territories as well, where they are under lockdown now.

Wouldn't surprise me if this would be what happens in the States in August/September.
 
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