ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

[ethical]

I can see where you’re coming from with the socioeconomic issues. I just don’t understand it. It is way cheaper and healthier to prepare meals than eat fast food. Maybe it’s where I live, or the fact I was raised dirt poor, or that people just don’t know how to buy and prepare food, idk, but I can prepare a dozen relatively healthy meals for $30-$40.

When you're coming home from an eight to ten hour day at work, it's a lot harder to prepare a meal once you get home. Sure, you could meal prep over the weekend...but that's assuming

• that you even have a proper "weekend"
• that you have the time after you've taken care of everything else you have to do on your days off
• that you have the physical and emotional energy to meal prep
• that you have access to affordable and health-optimal grocery stores in the first place

capitalism is inherently oppressive to the working class, and this is one of many reasons why. You might think it's easier and cheaper to buy and prepare food yourself, but the statistics simply do not line up with that reality. Obesity and poverty go hand-in-hand.

 

[Chad Nasty]

From having lived with a wide variety of people from various social groups, I dare say that quite a large part of the population (under 40) in the western world - though this will probably differ markedly by country/culture - is not capable of producing a variety of decent meals on a regular basis for themselves. This seems to be case both for the affluent and the less fortunate. However, an architect can afford to go to his favorite italian for a nice supper on a daily basis, while the part-time cashier is more likely to open up a tin, put some frozen goods in the oven or visit a McDonalds.
Once you reach a particularly low budget however, I find that people are more likely to be able to prepare cheap foods (beans, lentils, cheap veggies and various basic baked goods) quite well and historically, many a great culinary dish has come from the inventiveness that poverty demands.

They're capable and not too poor, they're just lazy and don't make good dietary choices. I can go to a majority of restaurants and order a meal that fits a healthy diet, but its not going to be a meal for fatfucks.

They are also incapable of maintaining discipline on a whole to be fit. Women are more prone to getting fat because simps gonna simp.

Most of the people I train for free cannot even make it more than a couple times or keep their cheating to a minimum. I still offer to do this for nearly anyone, but they just can't help being lazy.

When you're coming home from an eight to ten hour day at work, it's a lot harder to prepare a meal once you get home. Sure, you could meal prep over the weekend...but that's assuming

• that you even have a proper "weekend"
• that you have the time after you've taken care of everything else you have to do on your days off
• that you have the physical and emotional energy to meal prep
• that you have access to affordable and health-optimal grocery stores in the first place

capitalism is inherently oppressive to the working class, and this is one of many reasons why. You might think it's easier and cheaper to buy and prepare food yourself, but the statistics simply do not line up with that reality. Obesity and poverty go hand-in-hand.

Total bullshit excuse. The poverty thing is because hot cheetohs and takis taste better than canned beans.

 

[melty]

capitalism is inherently oppressive to the working class, and this is one of many reasons why. You might think it's easier and cheaper to buy and prepare food yourself, but the statistics simply do not line up with that reality. Obesity and poverty go hand-in-hand.

People would be thinner under not-capitalism, I'll give you that

 

[ethical]

They're capable and not too poor, they're just lazy and don't make good dietary choices. I can go to a majority of restaurants and order a meal that fits a healthy diet, but its not going to be a meal for fatfucks.

They are also incapable of maintaining discipline on a whole to be fit. Women are more prone to getting fat because simps gonna simp.

Most of the people I train for free cannot even make it more than a couple times or keep their cheating to a minimum. I still offer to do this for nearly anyone, but they just can't help being lazy.


Total bullshit excuse. The poverty thing is because hot cheetohs and takis taste better than canned beans.

People would be thinner under not-capitalism, I'll give you that

Sperg all you want but the facts are facts. The statistics don't lie. Poverty and obesity go hand-in-hand, and the relevant experts all agree on why.

 

[twerkin_for_trayvon]

More Canadian nonsense to reaffirm our foodie beauties delusions.

 

[PatTraverse]

More Canadian nonsense to reaffirm our foodie beauties delusions.

Those doctors should be forced to treat, operate and witness the deaths of all the obese patients that come at their hospital. I bet they would change their tune pretty quickly if they had to constantly deal with entitled shitshows like Chantal.

 

[RamzaTheon]

Those doctors should be forced to treat, operate and witness the deaths of all the obese patients that come at their hospital. I bet they would change their tune pretty quickly if they had to constantly deal with entitled shitshows like Chantal.

Doctors with carple tunnel will go up 10000% not worth it. I want my doctor tip top shape while deathfats excuse their habits to their own graves!

 

[Barbarella]

More Canadian nonsense to reaffirm our foodie beauties delusions.

Sometimes I want to take my hat off and toss it across the pond, ya know what I mean ? Shit feels too close.

 

[stupid frog]

More Canadian nonsense to reaffirm our foodie beauties delusions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53656651

 

[GunnlaugurSassoon]

Once again, no one bothers to read past the headline let alone the actual study (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/31/E875)

Literal first key point:

Obesity is a prevalent, complex, progressive and relapsing chronic disease, characterized by abnormal or excessive body fat (adiposity), that impairs health.

The entire study is advising medical practitioners to essentially do what people have always been recommending ALR and Chantal do: if you're morbidly obese you should tackle the psychological causes of your weight gain as well as the weight, recognizing that if someone is capable of eating to the point of becoming 400+ pounds a doctor simply saying "eat 1500 calories a day" (even with a specific meal breakdown) won't help them at all because they'll fail immediately.

 

[Pistoleer]

When you're coming home from an eight to ten hour day at work, it's a lot harder to prepare a meal once you get home. Sure, you could meal prep over the weekend...but that's assuming

• that you even have a proper "weekend"
• that you have the time after you've taken care of everything else you have to do on your days off
• that you have the physical and emotional energy to meal prep
• that you have access to affordable and health-optimal grocery stores in the first place

capitalism is inherently oppressive to the working class, and this is one of many reasons why. You might think it's easier and cheaper to buy and prepare food yourself, but the statistics simply do not line up with that reality. Obesity and poverty go hand-in-hand.

Statistics or not, you can still eat well and healthy and be poor. It’s easily provable. Let me give you an example. I can go to Walmart buy a 2 bags of frozen mixed vegetables, a qt of low sodium organic vegetable broth, and a pack of onion soup mix for roughly $10. Take it home put it in the crock pot add a cup of water set it to low, and when I get up the next morning I have almost a gallon of low sodium, low fat, low calorie soup that tastes quite good. Add about $8 and I can add meat and increase the volume by 1/2. And that’s just one meal of dozens I could list.
yes, it’s not vegan all organic spoon fed bullshit, but it’s still perfectly healthy, and readily available in America. Also yes this is anecdotal, But The point is that if one person, who hits all the marks you listed can do this within a capitalist system Then so can others. Well aside from the emotionally tired thing. If I’m ever such a sad sack that I can’t fix myself food them I’ll neck rope.

 

[ethical]

Statistics or not, you can still eat well and healthy and be poor. It’s easily provable. Let me give you an example. I can go to Walmart buy a 2 bags of frozen mixed vegetables, a qt of low sodium organic vegetable broth, and a pack of onion soup mix for roughly $10. Take it home put it in the crock pot add a cup of water set it to low, and when I get up the next morning I have almost a gallon of low sodium, low fat, low calorie soup that tastes quite good. Add about $8 and I can add meat and increase the volume by 1/2. And that’s just one meal of dozens I could list.
yes, it’s not vegan all organic spoon fed bullshit, but it’s still perfectly healthy, and readily available in America.

Nobody wants to live off of shitty soup. You seem to forget that humans want to actually enjoy the food they're eating. You don't need to eat "vegan all organic spoon fed bullshit," in fact most of that is just marketing nonsense from the "health food" industry. But if you think someone legitimately wants to eat soup for breakfast, you're fucking insane.

Also yes this is anecdotal, But The point is that if one person, who hits all the marks you listed can do this within a capitalist system Then so can others. Well aside from the emotionally tired thing. If I’m ever such a sad sack that I can’t fix myself food them I’ll neck rope.

not gonna lie it kinda sounds like you've never lived in poverty lol

 

[TenMilesWide]

Nobody wants to live off of shitty soup. You seem to forget that humans want to actually enjoy the food they're eating. You don't need to eat "vegan all organic spoon fed bullshit," in fact most of that is just marketing nonsense from the "health food" industry. But if you think someone legitimately wants to eat soup for breakfast, you're fucking insane.

not gonna lie it sounds like you've never had a good soup lol

 

[ethical]

not gonna lie it sounds like you've never had a good soup lol

yup, can't wait to have a bowl of soup before i work an eight hour shift being on my feet all day or doing construction work. you're completely delusional.

 

[NoReturn]

Add about $8 and I can add meat and increase the volume by 1/2. And that’s just one meal of dozens I could list.

Please give more. I'm always looking for new ones.

But if you think someone legitimately wants to eat soup for breakfast, you're fucking insane.

What do you want to eat?
Also, what about skipping breakfast entirely? It's not rationing, it's "OMAD".

 

[chantalisfat]

Once again, no one bothers to read past the headline let alone the actual study (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/31/E875)

Literal first key point:



The entire study is advising medical practitioners to essentially do what people have always been recommending ALR and Chantal do: if you're morbidly obese you should tackle the psychological causes of your weight gain as well as the weight, recognizing that if someone is capable of eating to the point of becoming 400+ pounds a doctor simply saying "eat 1500 calories a day" (even with a specific meal breakdown) won't help them at all because they'll fail immediately.

No one is talking about or reacting to a study, though. No one is disputing the fact that people who are 400 pounds are fucked in the head. We're reacting to the fact that Canada is now claiming that "obesity is not defined by one's weight or size" and that their medical guidelines will now include a chapter on weight stigma aka fatphobia. It's ridiculous.

 

[another day another binge]

in some cases I agree with this thing but it's only when someone is doing a lot of sports, has a lot of muscle mass etc. if someone (like Chinny) is pure lard, she could be at normal weight but still have health issues and since she's definetely not at normal weight, her body will give up even if she claims she's just big or something

 

[ethical]

Please give more. I'm always looking for new ones.

What do you want to eat?
Also, what about skipping breakfast entirely? It's not rationing, it's "OMAD".

It's not about what I want to eat. It's about what is emotionally and physically possible for a human to sustain long-term. And if you think it is in any way emotionally or physically sustainable for someone to have either soup or no first meal prior to an eight+ hour day of labor, then you are completely delusional.

 

[Noom Boom]

More Canadian nonsense to reaffirm our foodie beauties delusions.

Yea, it just seems like a cop out to me.
" an obese person's "best weight" might not be their "ideal weight" according to BMI, the guideline says. "
I'm eye rolling into next Tuesday over that.

 

[BigBootieJudi]

No one is talking about or reacting to a study, though. No one is disputing the fact that people who are 400 pounds are fucked in the head. We're reacting to the fact that Canada is now claiming that "obesity is not defined by one's weight or size" and that their medical guidelines will now include a chapter on weight stigma aka fatphobia. It's ridiculous.

Girl no Canada is not and nowhere does it say that, literally from the article:

" Although the latest advice still recommends using diagnostic criteria like the body mass index (BMI) and waist circumference, it acknowledges their clinical limitations and says doctors should focus more on how weight impacts a person's health."

All their saying is that overall health should also be considered when treating obese patients which like no shit sherlock, the only thing ridiculous about it is that money was wasted writing guidelines that are common sense.