2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Eric Weinstein summarizes a non-supporter's reasons for voting for Trump:

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I would add onto that list the judicial appointments, the wall (as meme-y as it is) and illegal immigration, as well as the Democrat's treatment of Kavanaugh as reasons for voting for Trump.

Strangely enough, he lays the blame for the divisive national culture on Trump, and yet still recognizes the activist nature of Tech and Media...
 
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The 2016 weren't catastrophically wrong like everyone claims. Most of them predicted the popular vote pretty well, and the electoral landslide came from Trump barely squeaking by in multiple states, sometimes by less than 1%. It looked like a ridiculous failure of the pollsters because of the EC blowout but in reality the difference between a Blue landslide and Red landslide was just a couple of points nationwide.
If it was the November 2016, I wouldn't be making such an unironic call to action. Truth is, Trump was an unforseen actor, and the polling was difficult when not even Hillary seemed to put the Rust Belt in play.
But this year? Everybody knows which groups matter, why they matter, as well as their temperament. They really don't have an excuse for being so obtuse. Besides that, so much has happened between now and then, and the partisanship has only gotten more brazen, I don't understand why I should pretend they're worth trusting, or allow others to take them as authories. Some of this is from 538's flaws, but even absent them, every pollster they use gets money from somewhere, and when your bills are getting paid by partisan organisations? What incentive is there to get an accurate reflection, and what's the incentive of telling said partisan group whatever they want to hear?
 
If it was the November 2016, I wouldn't be making such an unironic call to action. Truth is, Trump was an unforseen actor, and the polling was difficult when not even Hillary seemed to put the Rust Belt in play.
But this year? Everybody knows which groups matter, why they matter, as well as their temperament. They really don't have an excuse for being so obtuse. Besides that, so much has happened between now and then, and the partisanship has only gotten more brazen, I don't understand why I should pretend they're worth trusting, or allow others to take them as authories. Some of this is from 538's flaws, but even absent them, every pollster they use gets money from somewhere, and when your bills are getting paid by partisan organisations? What incentive is there to get an accurate reflection, and what's the incentive of telling said partisan group whatever they want to hear?
The polls were accurate in 2016 and they're accurate today. You just can't accept your orange man is going to lose.
 
Eric Weinstein summarizes a non-supporter's reasons for voting for Trump:

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Strangely enough, he lays the blame for the divisive national culture on Trump, and yet still recognizes the activist nature of Tech and Media...
He gets points for being a reasonable human being. But loses a few for blaming it all on Trump when it's not his fault...

He's the RESULT of the divisive nature of the left.
 
He gets points for being a reasonable human being. But loses a few for blaming it all on Trump when it's not his fault...

He's the RESULT of the divisive nature of the left.
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Only so far you can press a people. The anglosphere is sedate, but can be riled. And it'll jump from 0 to 10 rather fucking quickly.
 
Here's an intersting article that's at least tangentially related to this coming election and what comes afterward:




Any thoughts on this? Where does the GOP go after Trump?

I'd vote for Ted Cruz.

Archive: https://archive.vn/5NJ45

So going forward can Kiwifarms agree to shill collectively in every avenue of life against the trustworthiness of electoral polls?
These frauds are trying to imagineer a narrative of shy Trump voters coming back, and Biden supporters getting cold feet to make sure a couple of the final polls put it in the margin of error for Trump to win. Not good enough. Far too little, far too late.

We all know polls exist today to push certain agendas, as their existence is intended to suppress some voting blocs and energise others. If someone thinks there's momentum for something, they either want to be part of it, or stubbornly oppose it. What the last year of fraudulent polls have attempted is nothing short of voter suppression against Trump voters. Whether Biden wins or not, it's not going to be by 10 points! It'll be lucky to be by 2 points in most meaningful states, yet we have polls saying Biden up 17 which are somehow ready for showtime?

We need this to be public knowledge going forward. The Cope Brigade will be out in full force, just like in 2016 with muh popular vote, or in 2018 when the Blue Wave never happened. The retort is typically how Trump isn't a usual candidate, or the 3rd parties got in the way, or a corona-shaped variable. Not to be rude, but these are pollsters, yeah? It's supposed to be their job to factor this in, but have spent the year omitting it all because somebody with money doesn't want Trump to be president anymore.

I'm not asking KF to begin buying ads making fun of Nate Silver. Simply drop in conversation from now on the total fantasies most pollsters come up with a fortnight before polling, and the drip drip drip up until election day that they pull to scoop back their credibility. They don't deserve that. The country puts far too much stake in the output of people who should know better, but consciously misinform.
To keep fucking up like this on purpose? They don't deserve to be taken seriously. Again, maybe they're right about Biden winning, I'm open to that possibility, but their output this year has been so insane and unsubstantiated that I've tuned out all of them except the secondary variables Kiwis have brought up.
It would genuinely be better there be no polls in future elections. Going in blind is better than such openly flawed models being waved around authoritively. If I dare to say it, it's fake news

So, what you are saying is Nate Silver needs a lolcow thread?
 
One of the dumbest memes that came out of the 2016 election was "ACTUALLY THE POLLS WERE ACCURATE CAUSE MUH POPULAR VOTE" yet when you looked at the 2016 polls for Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan all of them made it look like a Clinton landslide. Hell in Florida the polls in 2016 that were before the final week showed Clinton winning with a substantial lead over Trump.

While nationally Clinton won the Popular vote, as many posters said that was due to New York and California rather than anything else, plus it ignores how she looked like she was ahead in the state polls.
 
Florida. Trump is down less than 96k, before Election Day.

He basically has it. So far he has a 14.88% advantage in in-person early voting.

Republicans overwhelmingly vote on Election Day. Vote By Mail has failed.

It's a reference to that one Initial D Trump video after 2016, where it was something like "If my poll numbers hit 88%, you will see some serious shit."

The joke is that his in-person early voting advantage in Florida is currently 14.88%, the Nazi number.


I know I'm fucking late, but

>14.88%

This really is a simulation and kek.exe is fucking winking at us
 
My prediction:
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I think NV will swing for Trump. MN and PA are in the air.
If Biden wins all 3, its tied. Then Trump wins based on state legistlature votes alone.
If Trump wins NV, PA, MN, or all 3, its over for Biden.
Even before the riots Minnesota was trending towards republicans, which is unprecedented because they have been consistently democratic for decades. If Trump wins bigly, the shock of this election will be Minnesota flipping in his favor.
 

So no, they didn't try to drive the bus off the road, the white Biden car tried to be a dick and force the truck out of the way and that didn't work.

I knew it wasn't as cut and dry as that. If the Trump convoy actually did something stupid they 100% would have been on every news network covering it 24/7 until Tuesday.
 
Interesting take- I have to admit that even though rallies aren't my sort of thing, I pop into the feeds once in a while just to gauge what's going on.

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Edit: Might I add that they're on the only positive live entertainment occurring right now. Sure, you can watch streams of BLM-Antifa wrecking cities, but that drags on your mood.
 
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He’s going to win. If there’s one thing about trump supporters is that they’re persistent. They’ll walk through mind fields to stop Biden from being elected. I can just feel it in the air right now.
Not enough. All the mail-ins? Biden bigly. All of the early in-persons? Biden by a huge margin. Disregard the rubbish you heard about Florida. It is just a mere glitch in the matrix considering the dog-whistle Trump is winning by there. Clearly, this election is Biden's, and he is going to win bigger than Obama despite being an absolute nothing candidate. It matters not how many of your precious Drumpf supporters show up, there will twice as many Biden supporters because, just between you and I, there is a massive timid Biden vote in our country. So I suggest you Trump supporters/preferers brace yourselves, Kama-- whoops, Joe Biden will be the 46th President in US History. Pack your bags, your reeducation camps await you in two days!

Did I forget to mention that Orange Man is bad. And why? Reasons...

Obvious sarcasm aside, it's going to be good and fun night, regardless of the outcome. Have some snacks and chat with some friends while you watch this shitshow. And remember, do not doom or cope.

EDIT: Holy shit! It's a late-night party in Miami at Trump's rally!
 
Eric Weinstein summarizes a non-supporter's reasons for voting for Trump:

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I would add onto that list the judicial appointments, the wall (as meme-y as it is) and illegal immigration, as well as the Democrat's treatment of Kavanaugh as reasons for voting for Trump.

Strangely enough, he lays the blame for the divisive national culture on Trump, and yet still recognizes the activist nature of Tech and Media...
Non american perspective here.

People flock to trump because is simple, he channels the brunt of the abuse normal people wouldn't withstand for having political and idelogical opinions that divert from the current cultural climate, even though most of these opinions are mild and mainstream at most.

activist media and journalism were so responsible for changing the overton window that megacorporations can openly support violent groups promoting political violence with no repercussions, meanwhile support of an elected president is a dangerous slide into fascism, far left becomes center, center becomes right, right becomes unnaceptable.

you can't fire the president, you can't threaten his families jobs, you can't cancel a person that powerful to the point you silence his voice, and sure as hell you can't beat him with a bikelock, trump channels much of the policies and ideological views that a normal moderate has, and I tell you, people don't give a rat ass about the GOP or parties, if trump was an idependent or even a democrat with the same will to risk his own reputation and hide for this kind of message, he would attract the same kind of elector.

I don't put my neck on the line in hopes Trump actually believes anything he spouts, he could actually be a super corrupt businessman that is only pretending for all I care, but the fact is that only for risking himself and putting in risk, the personal, social and monetary repercussions that most people wouldn't for saying the things he say while still representing a llarge, culturally silenced part of the population, he gets my respect.
 
Interesting take- I have to admit that even though rallies aren't my sort of thing, I pop into the feeds once in a while just to gauge what's going on.

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Edit: Might I add that they're on the only positive entertainment events occurring right now. Sure, you can watch streams of BLM-Antifa wrecking cities, but that drags on your mood.
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Not enough. All the mail-ins? Biden bigly. All of the early in-persons? Biden by a huge margin. Disregard the rubbish you heard about Florida. It is just a mere glitch in the matrix considering the dog-whistle Trump is winning by there. Clearly, this election is Biden's, and he is going to win bigger than Obama despite being an absolute nothing candidate. It matters not how many of your precious Drumpf supporters show up, there will twice as many Biden supporters because, just between you and I, there is a massive timid Biden vote in our country. So I suggest you Trump supporters/preferers brace yourselves, Kama-- whoops, Joe Biden will be the 46th President in US History. Pack your bags, your reeducation camps await you in two days!

Did I forget to mention that Orange Man is bad. And why? Reasons...

Obvious sarcasm aside, it's going to be good and fun night, regardless of the outcome. Have some snacks and chat with some friends while you watch this shitshow. And remember, do not doom or cope.

EDIT: Holy shit! It's a late-night party in Miami at Trump's rally!
At first I thought you were serious but as I read it you gave me a much needed good laugh. Tuesday night will be light no matter the outcome. But man will it feel good to see trump win again.
 
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