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Speaking of twitch culture, didn't Gura find herself in hot water after sending a raid to Amelia stream a while ago?

This was just after the girls did their first collab stream in Minecraft and the first time the EN girls were in that sort of situation. Watson was doing a stream mostly focused on exploring some of the caverns connected to their 3 hour tunnel. Gura was planning on building an enchantment table. Fans noticed they were on at the same time, so they tried to beg for collab - Gura was kinda open to it, but Amelia was more firm with telling chat that Gura was likely doing her own thing, and she didn't want to mess with that.

This was also the Gura stream where she died in Minecraft a zillion times. So every time she got in trouble, the shrimps would jump over to Ames stream with GURAS IN TROUBLE HELP HER!!!11 - then Ame got lost in one of the Caverns and eventually relented on asking Gura for help as well. I mean it was annoying, but I think it was the first time Ame and Gura got some one-on-one time and they did a minecraft stream together not long after.
 
Oh yeah, Iofi's gonna have an interview with some Indonesian news outlet. I don't know if i can attend it because i got stuff to do during that time, and her schedule says she isn't gonna archive the stream. Im wondering instead if the news outlet themselves are? I hope at least someone reuploads it somewhere
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Ah...these guys...
I know the bigshot of that place. He has a clique that basically runs half of indonesian weebs scene, kinda like Domo, the anitubers, or the anitwitter lolcows
I'm not surprised Iofi would agree to this, she's pretty chummy with people like that
This was just after the girls did their first collab stream in Minecraft and the first time the EN girls were in that sort of situation. Watson was doing a stream mostly focused on exploring some of the caverns connected to their 3 hour tunnel. Gura was planning on building an enchantment table. Fans noticed they were on at the same time, so they tried to beg for collab - Gura was kinda open to it, but Amelia was more firm with telling chat that Gura was likely doing her own thing, and she didn't want to mess with that.

This was also the Gura stream where she died in Minecraft a zillion times. So every time she got in trouble, the shrimps would jump over to Ames stream with GURAS IN TROUBLE HELP HER!!!11 - then Ame got lost in one of the Caverns and eventually relented on asking Gura for help as well. I mean it was annoying, but I think it was the first time Ame and Gura got some one-on-one time and they did a minecraft stream together not long after.
I can see now why the HoloEN girls would try to distance themselves from the twitch culture. And that's for the best. Vtubers (or rather, the Japanese media/stream) doesn't match well with the obnoxious culture Twitch has (besides, Twitch is not that big there if I remember)
 
I'm gonna rattle the hornets nest and admit that I don't like Cali that much.
I love her singing voice, but her regular voice sounds like shes in her late 40's, not to mention she tries too hard to be funny.

And that during collabs she always sounds bored, like she doesn't wanna be there.
I think they really should Sora-mode her and let her play to her strengths and preferences, which is making and performing songs.
BSApricot is one of my favorite artists, this fucker better not taint them. The idea physically repulses me.
I'm just waiting for the day domo gets his own moviebob-lindsay ellis moment
Pekora finds out about her mousepad.
In a moment of psychic weakness I thought about ordering the okayu titpad, but I'm not that fargone yet.
 
Ah...these guys...
I know the bigshot of that place. He has a clique that basically runs half of indonesian weebs scene, kinda like Domo, the anitubers, or the anitwitter lolcows
I'm not surprised Iofi would agree to this, she's pretty chummy with people like that
Lol so Indonesian anitwitter lolcows? Kinda suprised this is my first time hearing about them but im not suprised they exist. I wouldn't put the blame on Iofi though, she just happens to be outgoing and nice to everyone as far as i know
 
I can see now why the HoloEN girls would try to distance themselves from the twitch culture. And that's for the best. Vtubers (or rather, the Japanese media/stream) doesn't match well with the obnoxious culture Twitch has (besides, Twitch is not that big there if I remember)

It was well intentioned despite being irritating, plus was starting point for AmeGura which is maybe my favourite collab pairing of EN at the moment. So silver linings and all that

They also seemed to take notes from senpais. Ame already bullies her chat, Gura tends to sweet talk them into behaving, Ina did have some issues when she streamed half-life 2, and Kiara's chat has started to act a bit less like constantly worried mother hens.

Just watched Amelia give Haato a tour of the EN server. Her English seems to be getting better but also, putting the 2 chaos gremlins together turns them into wholesome sisters.
 
Lol so Indonesian anitwitter lolcows? Kinda suprised this is my first time hearing about them but im not suprised they exist. I wouldn't put the blame on Iofi though, she just happens to be outgoing and nice to everyone as far as i know
There's a lot actually. But one thing you should know about them, most are in either Facebook or Discord, but the majority are in Facebook. But since you most likely now how the majority of Facebook users are today, you can imagine just how much of a shithole indonesian weebs community is
 
Just watched Amelia give Haato a tour of the EN server. Her English seems to be getting better but also, putting the 2 chaos gremlins together turns them into wholesome sisters.
They also built a fucking grave for Aki Haato with a giant H — what did Haachama mean by this? Is it a Monument to All Your Sins?

This was just after the girls did their first collab stream in Minecraft and the first time the EN girls were in that sort of situation. Watson was doing a stream mostly focused on exploring some of the caverns connected to their 3 hour tunnel. Gura was planning on building an enchantment table. Fans noticed they were on at the same time, so they tried to beg for collab - Gura was kinda open to it, but Amelia was more firm with telling chat that Gura was likely doing her own thing, and she didn't want to mess with that.

This was also the Gura stream where she died in Minecraft a zillion times. So every time she got in trouble, the shrimps would jump over to Ames stream with GURAS IN TROUBLE HELP HER!!!11 - then Ame got lost in one of the Caverns and eventually relented on asking Gura for help as well. I mean it was annoying, but I think it was the first time Ame and Gura got some one-on-one time and they did a minecraft stream together not long after.
Nah the big yab from that was there were a bunch of shitters who went “Oh Gura’s on, lmao later!” in Ame’s chat, which you can imagine to be quite irritating as a streamer. Beyond their schedules overlapping, which they’ve pretty much fixed since then, the whole raiding attitude prompted refinement of their chat rules. Or at least pointing out that they’re there.
 
They also built a fucking grave for Aki Haato with a giant H — what did Haachama mean by this? Is it a Monument to All Your Sins?
Did you summon me?

Resignation is her virtue. Like water, she ebbs and flows. Suspension is simply the addition of time to a sentence she never deserved... But West Taiwan imposed.
 
The issue is that retards like the Trash Taste hosts are just gonna milk it until it runs out and then leave the dusky husk behind. They aren't in it for the hobby, just to milk it for clout. Just like their viewers now won't actually be into Vtubers as a hobby, they're just in it for the fad and because their greasy-haired podcast overlords told them it was cool.

The worst thing is mooks on social telling me to "just deal with it"

and one guy even said "lol the JP girls have done much worse for the brand/community in the past so how is this a big deal??"

literally what?
I won't comment on whether the hosts are into it as a hobby or not, however from my limited exposure to Gigguk and his fanbase, the impression I've gotten is that his content is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Understandable, since man's gotta make a living and that's pretty much the only way to do it nowadays as a commentary channel on YouTube, but when your videos are all generically titled "20XX Anime in a Nutshell" or "Anime in X minutes", it follows that you'll tend to attract a low-attention span audience that enjoys being spoonfed and is quick to judge.

Unfortunately, I think there was already a big overlap between that audience and Hololive's from well before this collaboration, but if you're able to filter out the garbage that these types spew, you'll hopefully find that many of them will soon lose their interest and move on to the next big thing.

On a separate note: anyone have thoughts on this clip of one of the TrashTaste co-hosts talking about Hololive and idol culture?

For someone whose job is to talk lots the guy sure sucks at argumentation. I agree with his initial point that idol fans are sometimes overzealous and this applies to Hololive as well, but then his reasoning for why fans shouldn't care about their chuubas collabing with "normal streamers" is that the VAs are "like, individuals who have like, opinions and feelings and might want to collaborate out of their own benefit (?) and out of their own want to collaborate and make something creative"? No shit, sherlock. Calli's VA should be free to collab with normal streamers to her heart's content. But I'm curious as to how he came to the conclusion that a viewer who disapproves of a character doing something is somehow not respecting the "needs and wants [of the content creator as a] normal human being".

It just seems like such smooth-brained logic. In a roundabout way it reminds me of the Adam Kovic situation over at the FunHaus YouTube channel: popular funny man makes funny gaming videos, but years later a bunch of pictures are released showing him with various objects up his butt at work, among other saucy revelations. Given the context, I think it's fair to say that there's marked difference between doing things you personally enjoy as you, the person, versus doing things you personally enjoy as your character. And I fail to see how this assertion invalidates in any way the content creator's needs and wants. I mean, isn't that the whole point of a chuuba's avatar in the first place? So that they can do what the VA can't?
 
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Glink uploaded a video, about his insight on vtubers, from the perspective of fans and freelance vtubers. Pretty fascinating watch.
 
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But she still wasn't able to host games with Ina even after she started getting spotty games with randos once more, so it is pretty much the EN curse of tech scuff activating again, as it does.
She was also an idiot and never changed her netcode settings, even within the game client. The reason she kept getting matched up with the same people is because those were like the only people in Japan who also were playing Lethal League. Ina pointed this out super late that they probably couldn't find each other because of her matchmaking settings being on Default or Close the whole time, with Ina obviously not living anywhere near her.
 
In a moment of psychic weakness I thought about ordering the okayu titpad, but I'm not that fargone yet.

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Homey, if you're even thinking of dropping $38 on a goddamn mousepad, it might be time for a break.


If you're going to drop a 28-minute video, could you at least write something up about what's interesting about it and why we should watch it? I have a hard time keeping up with all the four-minute clips posted in this thread as it is.
 
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Homey, if you're even thinking of dropping $38 on a goddamn mousepad, it might be time for a break.



If you're going to drop a 28-minute video, could you at least write something up about what's interesting about it and why we should watch it? I have a hard time keeping up with all the four-minute clips posted in this thread as it is.
More like $57+$26 international shipping. All in all, $85.26 is reasonable for a mousepad, right??
 
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