2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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10 million votes than Obama in 2008 who had the highest turnout since the 1968 election and who won in a landslide. Sounds totally legit.

Obama used to point to his electoral success as proof that he had a mandate. I don't think Biden will be able to point to his with a straight face.
 
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It's the state legislature that determines election law, not the judges, and the legislators are elected representatives.

Get the issue a bit better?
So you are saying that it's cool to throw out votes cast by people, who thought they were doing it legally, just because the SC fucked up? That is pretty fucked up and if you gotta do that to win, it shows how terrible your candidate is
 
Interesting I'm in the UK and I don't see the 'AP has called this election' that Baris claims they put under his videos, for example this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJw5peMTx4Y

Here's an archive

https://archive.vn/wip/0qQCf
Strange. I'm in the US and the stupid label is right below Baris's video.

Also, @Gustav Schuchardt, the YT news section has gone from just "Top News" to...
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...above all other news irrelevant to this.
 
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10 million votes than Obama in 2008 who had the highest turnout since the 1968 and who won in a landslide. Sounds totally legit.

Obama used to point to his electoral success as proof that he had a mandate. I don't think Biden will be able to point to his with a straight face.
He doesn't have to, the media will bash you over the head with it instead.
 
You think the people that are willing to employ violence have some specific allergy to guns?

Nope. Just the left are less likely to own guns.

A few guns vs Many Guns.

Yes but who got cia and corporate backing?

Dunno about the CIA, but it's the corporations loss if they want to alienate half of the country to the point they want them dead.
 
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So you are saying that it's cool to throw out votes cast by people, who thought they were doing it legally, just because the SC fucked up? That is pretty fucked up and if you gotta do that to win, it shows how terrible your candidate is
Don't violate constitutional process to give your side an edge.
 
So you are saying that it's cool to throw out votes cast by people, who thought they were doing it legally, just because the SC fucked up?
Depends on whether the SC was right to make the kind of ruling that it did in the first place. If they weren't, then it was their decision that disenfranchised everyone.

That is pretty fucked up and if you gotta do that to win, it shows how terrible your candidate is
This does not follow.
 
This. It depends on the scale of the conflict, and the number of third parties that get involved/take sides.
Depends. In my opinion, currently I think the left would win. Yeah, yeah, "lol liberal soyboys BTFO by MAGA chads", but these people have literally every major institution behind them, millions upon millions of people with mental issues, no morals and nothing holding them back from just murdering everyone. Add into the fact that most right wingers don't have it in them to put the words they type online into action, and they have a good chance of just steamrolling them. Of course, the right could get the military on their side and get some normal people joining up.
Edit: Of course, this is assuming we even get into a clear cut civil war, it will probably be at worse something like the Troubles. If even that happens.
The military really is the million-dollar question mark. It's no secret that the joes lean right, but if the military machine pitches in for the left, the question remains of how many of them will go "fuck that".

For what it's worth, I expect that we'd see a large number of defections from the individual through company-level in the combat arms, with maybe even the odd battalion running off. The paper pushers tend to be much more left- or establishment-leaning, so don't expect much from them, though the occasional mole could prove quite valuable. The Obama administration made a big push for women and minorities to join the combat arms, maybe they predicted a scenario like this, so they laid the groundwork to fill gaps with more reliable demographics.
 
Well it is not taking long after their alleged win for the commies to start introducing their extremely radical bills. Behold, South African style farm seizure to grant to joggers! I am sure nothing would go wrong if passed by some miracle.
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Of all the pet projexts Democrats would bursue once Trump was out and they were back on the road to utopia....this wasn't my first pick, nor was it on my mind for what they'd do.
The problem with any remedy to the fraud is that the leadership of the Republicans in the dispute states has come out and said that they'll certify the results.
So what we knew all the time: Trump was always on his ow because nobody in the GOP bought was he was selling.
I don't do fedposting normally, but I feel it necessary to point out that the authoritarian boot doesn't work so well if the person(s) wearing the boot get shot in the face, stabbed in the neck, blown up, etc. If the dems(assuming for a moment here that they have both the executive office and both houses of congress) are seriously dumb enough to go full 1984 on the population, well...let's just say the answer to that will involve something Alex Jones talked about in-between rants about gay frogs and swamp goblins.
Here's the thing though: give people good enough entertainment or sports, they're not going to pay attention to what's going on around them. All they have to do is not go all in on the social justice and diversity stuff while the road to utopia is still being paved, then they can go talking about how Colin Kaepernick is a hero.
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Michigan AG warns on election fraud claims: A false claim of criminal activity is a crime​


"If you have a problem with how the mafia does business, I urge you to take that up with the bosses. *rolls up sleeves and begins cracking knuckles*"

They're getting brazen again. That's never a good sign. I guess the first camps will be around Detroit, in the shadows of the decaying auto factories. That or they'll reimburse those factories to be those camps. Whitmer looks like the type of person to volunteer for that shit.
Yeah the dems don't see how making that trump accountablity hitlist is gonna backfire on them badly.
They don't see how it'll hurt them because they know they have the means to ensure it won't. Don't forget the likes of Twitter and Amazon are firmly in their corner. And Antifa WILL come back, they'll just be the Trump Accountability Project's attack dogs, and any condemnation was what we saw this summer: doing something that can't be cloaked in good PR. So the future for them is, become attack dogs, go after the people the lists say, or who their collaborators point out, while condemnation and arrests comes to the ones who are rabid and need to be put down. Meanwhile, statues and memorials will be taken down at a rapid rate, and it'll be a matter of if they'll be taken down officially or if it'll be something like what all the Christopher Columbus statues had this summer: taken down by the crowds in the swell of a social justice movement. Also, they'll speak of this summer fondly in the utopia, how George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and countless others died at the hands of a racist construct that ended their lives before they could be the grand forces for good they were destined to be. History is written by the winners, and the losers will be lucky if they're remembered as a footnote. God knows that they'll be seen as an irredeemable villain.
The American Revolution did not kick off overnight, it was a long buildup of tensions and animosity, damned near a century-long, in fact. They had their faggots who said that nothing was ever going to happen back then, too. They had long discussions in the taverns over wither they should seek independence or simply proper British citizenship in the same way we debate restoring the Constitution or following Daddy Hitler's example. The Right isn't going to rise up and strike simply because it is an advantageous time to do so, they are going to wait until every other option has been taken off the table in the admittedly vain hope that maybe, just maybe, this trainwreck can be averted.
Except we don't have that much time, and we certainly don't have a century. We only have a few weeks, and that's looking like an overestimation.
I wish to remind everyone that Crossing the Rubicon is absolutely 100% legal. President Trump, thanks to the Insurrection Act -- which congress updated, thinking it would Obama and then Clinton having this weapon -- has the power to quash any conspiracy that violates a civilian's rights (that isn't being resolved by local government) by any means necessary. That means he can declare the vote rigging a conspiracy to harm the citizens' right to vote and send in the militia -- which is anyone male in the country who answers his call.

Doing so is absolutely legal. There's a reason they were desperate to get him to invoke it during the Summer; I suspect they wanted a case where they could send it to the SCOTUS and have it limited in some fashion.

Now, I've earned the 🌈🌈🌈s I'm gonna get, so let me just say if he does it -- he won't -- then we're
  1. Effectively in a civil war
  2. In the BEST or WORST timeline.
So we'll see. If you are upset at the idea of Trump Crossing the Rubicon, blame not the madman for putting on his hip waders. Blame the left for flooding the river until the water is at his feet.

Trump is too practical.
I don't think Trump will use the Insurrection Act. He knows that he's looking square at impeachment if he does. And the democrats will have clear proof of what their revolution is. Also, this insurrection Act shit looks like something that'd he do if SCOTUS fails him and he just wants to burn everything down. At least the Democrats aren't goading him to use it as they were this summer. And soon we'll see it be used to crush every right wing rebellion before it even begins.
The Pennsylvania and Michigan certification was expected, yeah? That means nothing's changed, so it isn't over yet. We still have SCOTUS.
And I really fail to see how this avenue can help Trump these days. It may not even be the deadly strike he NEEDS.

Social contracts, the law, elections... These are all ways of avoiding the use of force.

Voting exists because if you settle things with force, you get hurt.

If one party believes the other will not or cannot defend themselves with force, they see no reason to abide by such social contracts.
Here's the thing, the Democrats don't have that moral restraint. They know how to cloak every action in enough good PR that they look like the righteous good guys vanquishing a devil that plagues society. That 1-2 punch is the reason why utopia is inevitable in this country. Trump may have taught how to take the gloves off and be ready to throw down, but what'll happen when bullets start flying at you, and when the heavy artillery comes your way? The New Zealand mosque shooting and the OKC Bombing saw the depths one must sink to in order to commit a grand atrocity in the name of ideology. The lack of moral fiber and lack of compassion needed along with the seething resentment for your intended victims and everything they stand for. And as for the likes of Columbine and Sandy Hook, a complete and total disregard for the lives you'll end that resembles something most can't even fathom. Hell, they actively refuse to entertain the idea. But cloak it in enough rhetoric that you're doing the right thing, that you're destroying a great evil, and maybe you'll see someone go down that path. And the Democrats hand that shit out like candy. It's almost like catnip to them.
Their legal avenues are narrowing as the EC convention draws near and their actual cases are shrunken by precedent before prejudiced dismissal, which narrows their victory paths should the lawsuits even reach the SCOTUS (never mind the question of what raises a constitutional question). At first blush, the GOP in the contested states are moving to rectify matters or at least achieve clarification, but then you realize that the will of these people wavers if it's even there. If the will exists, then they have to fight off sabotage by whose who fell victim to the Q disinfo campaign or want to just go out in a blaze of glory. According to Barnes, they may actually include election lawyers in their inner circle with the ousting of Powell... because Powell wanted to mastermind the show and ended up pushing out most of the people that would have been actually useful.

Outside of the courts, pressure is slowly building to do signature audits, but the SoS of these states are very reluctant to do so-- regardless of their party allegiance.

Yes, it's not over (because the EC convention is still in mid-December), and yes, the SCOTUS exists. But much did change, and it leaves the Trump efforts overall with less maneuvering space-- to speak nothing about the hopes of election reform.
With every passing day, the odds for Trump look worse and worse. And every supposed ally cracks under the pressure and folds like a lawn chair. As for Trump 2024...he'll be lucky if he's not broke, in jail, in exile, or executed by then, because once 1/21 hits, Donald J. Trump will become the most wanted man in America.
 
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So you are saying that it's cool to throw out votes cast by people, who thought they were doing it legally, just because the SC fucked up? That is pretty fucked up and if you gotta do that to win, it shows how terrible your candidate is
You already made this post in this thread, come on man. You forgot to say "majority black and brown people" this time but still, basically the same.

And I was just saying you were doing well at this. Low energy. Sad!
 
He doesn't have to, the media will bash you over the head with it instead.

Oh, they have already started. Maybe it's because my politics have changed since 08 but Biden's win seems pathetic compared to Obama's. The media will have to expend the same energy propping up Harris/Biden's victory that they used to tear down Trump just to paper over their deficiencies. I don't think it's sustainable.
 
So you are saying that it's cool to throw out votes cast by people, who thought they were doing it legally, just because the SC fucked up? That is pretty fucked up and if you gotta do that to win, it shows how terrible your candidate is
Yes. The damage of violating the Constitution is far worse than the damage of throwing out those votes. The PA supreme court knew that they were violating the Constitution and triggering the poison pill in the law, they did it anyway. If someone robs a bank in order to help the poor, he cannot point to the poor who benefit from the money and say the money shouldn't be returned because the lack of it causes damage.
 
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