Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

I've been mostly lurking this thread for a couple of days, and honestly I'm actually a little bit sad at the state of it. I've mostly being avoid news up until now, partly because the hype seemed unreasoning, and partly because early demos and shit are usually fucking irrelevant to the final product (looking at you The Division E3 2013 trailer). I was never one of the super hyped people who thought this was gonna be the greatest game ever, but TW3 was basically a perfect game for what I want in games, and since I'm a huge fan of Cyberpunk shit in general I had high hopes of this scratching the itch. I'm kinda lucky in that as a PC player I can pirate the GoG version to try and then buy if/ when the GotY/DLC versions if they eventually fix it. The biggest downside is this was gonna be my only new cyberpunk related fix for a while. Cyberpunk RED is meh, Shadowrun 6E is somehow worse then 5E, and since Paradox bought out HBS we're probably never getting a good Shadowrun vidya again either.
 
This Russian stream is MUCH better than the fucking anglo eating chips into my FUCKING EAR stream:

He's playing on a higher difficulty (the brit said there wasn't even a difficulty option) and is taking the game seriously. His computer can actually handle the game while streaming. The Russian voice acting improves the game so much they might as well deploy globally with Russian localization.

I gave up on SpiffyBrit's stream when he, at the lowest difficulty and a single frame, kept going "LOOK GUYS! I've built specifically for stealth crit damage and watch! I can one hit kill with headshots!" and then when he failed reloaded to rebuild for no fucking reason.

If you wanted Cyberpunk 2077 to be a good game, watch this stream, he's doing it justice.
 
I guess maybe it's because I'm getting older but I am confused why people are acting surprised that Keanu Reeves' voice work is "stiff" and he is "the weak link" of the game.
He's had something of a renaissance with John Wick and is roundly seen to be a great dude, but this is the actor who for decades was mocked for his awful performances and general "whoa" airhead demeanor.
So the choice to center their first IP apart from Witcher around the acting prowess of Keanu Reeves was a gamble that will probably end up as snake eyes for CDPR.
 
This Russian stream is MUCH better than the fucking anglo eating chips into my FUCKING EAR stream:

He's playing on a higher difficulty (the brit said there wasn't even a difficulty option) and is taking the game seriously. His computer can actually handle the game while streaming. The Russian voice acting improves the game so much they might as well deploy globally with Russian localization.

I gave up on SpiffyBrit's stream when he, at the lowest difficulty and a single frame, kept going "LOOK GUYS! I've built specifically for stealth crit damage and watch! I can one hit kill with headshots!" and then when he failed reloaded to rebuild for no fucking reason.

If you wanted Cyberpunk 2077 to be a good game, watch this stream, he's doing it justice.
Thanks for the heads up, a lot of streams with this game have been shitty. I don’t know what they’re saying but it really seems better in Russian. I wonder how well they’ve localized with other languages...
 
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Johny Silverhand is meant to be a big name in canon iirc. So it makes sense to give him a celebrity cameo.
Johnny Silverhand was one of the... you could call them "iconic" characters of old Cyberpunk - debuted in the early 2013 RPG, then went on to CP2020 as well. He was the platonic ideal of a rockerboy. There were others characters like him, Rache Bartmoss (the mega-paranoid netrunner) and Morgan Blackhand (the solo) were two of them and there were probably others, but it's been bloody ages since I've played 2020 and I have forgotten them. That said, I do have a problem with Johnny having such a big impact in the story: fuck yes, seeing the names from the old RPG in the game is great fanservice to all the old 2020 players, but from the reviews it feels like he usurps the player character's story.
 
Wait, so it's just a looter-shooter like The Division and Destiny?
 
Johnny Silverhand was one of the... you could call them "iconic" characters of old Cyberpunk - debuted in the early 2013 RPG, then went on to CP2020 as well. He was the platonic ideal of a rockerboy. There were others characters like him, Rache Bartmoss (the mega-paranoid netrunner) and Morgan Blackhand (the solo) were two of them and there were probably others, but it's been bloody ages since I've played 2020 and I have forgotten them. That said, I do have a problem with Johnny having such a big impact in the story: fuck yes, seeing the names from the old RPG in the game is great fanservice to all the old 2020 players, but from the reviews it feels like he usurps the player character's story.

And this is why that's a problem as @Secret Asshole has stated: When the NPC>>>>>Player why even bother playing the game. It's like the old Dragonlance modules put out by TSR back in the day, the NPC's are gonna do all the work in the War of the Lance, you are just there to watch, observe, and get Good PC Points.

If i started the game as Johnny Silverhand that'd be different and fun, but that would russle the jimmies of the trannies on twitter because they want Keanu to have a vagina, blue hair, and tits the size of Watermelon's. Can't have that? -11/10 would not not buy again.

Wait, so it's just a looter-shooter like The Division and Destiny?
These 2 games are great by themslves, combined together it's like making a drink from Gasoline and Vodka.
 
I guess maybe it's because I'm getting older but I am confused why people are acting surprised that Keanu Reeves' voice work is "stiff" and he is "the weak link" of the game.
because people either had unreal expectation or they want to talk shit. it's so obvious that heated opinions people are shouting online now won't be the consensus opinion in 3 years. I've seen it happen too many times, especially with slav jank.
 
8 years of development for a standard AAA game, fucking polacks at their best
Yeah, this did NOT need 8 years. 8 years and they turned it into GTA 5.5 with a Cyberpunk skin and no 3rd person.

I really dislike the direction it took, a lot. They went right for that AAA money. Welp, nobody stays heroes forever.
Wait, so it's just a looter-shooter like The Division and Destiny?
I already play fucking Warframe. That's my looter shooter. I don't need a watered down, single player version. Jesus fuck.
And this is why that's a problem as @Secret Asshole has stated: When the NPC>>>>>Player why even bother playing the game. It's like the old Dragonlance modules put out by TSR back in the day, the NPC's are gonna do all the work in the War of the Lance, you are just there to watch, observe, and get Good PC Points.

If i started the game as Johnny Silverhand that'd be different and fun, but that would russle the jimmies of the trannies on twitter because they want Keanu to have a vagina, blue hair, and tits the size of Watermelon's. Can't have that? -11/10 would not not buy again.
Yeah, it is like playing a D&D game where Dritzz is 'dead' and inside of your body and you have to do all this shit for him, but shocker, at the end he takes over your body and kicks your ass to the curb and then transforms back into a Drow.

Its utter trash. So much fucking potential, squandered. At least I have it on PC, where I can mod the fuck out of it.
because people either had unreal expectation or they want to talk shit. it's so obvious that heated opinions people are shouting online now won't be the consensus opinion in 3 years. I've seen it happen too many times, especially with slav jank.
UGH. Fucking figures.

The main problem with 'Celebrity' voice actors is: 1) They don't know how to voice act. 2) Good luck telling a multi-million dollar actor how to fucking act in a video game which they consider 'lesser'. 3) Extra takes are extra money. So most of them are TERRIBLE. See Peter Dinklage in Destiny 2 who was so fucking awful they just cut him out of the game entirely.

Celebrity voice actors, unless its a passion project for them and they're taking a massive pay cut and doing whatever they can to make it awesome, is generally a waste of fucking time and money. You're better off just hiring professionals you can direct and have a ton of takes with and get something decent out of them.

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I feel like CD Projekt Red was out of their element and really didn't know where to go. So they relied on Keanu hype and Pondsmith and AAA generic watered down trash. They 100% feel like they got cold feet on their original concept and just constantly watered it down over and over.
 
The main problem with 'Celebrity' voice actors is: 1) They don't know how to voice act. 2) Good luck telling a multi-million dollar actor how to fucking act in a video game which they consider 'lesser'. 3) Extra takes are extra money. So most of them are TERRIBLE. See Peter Dinklage in Destiny 2 who was so fucking awful they just cut him out of the game entirely.

Celebrity voice actors, unless its a passion project for them and they're taking a massive pay cut and doing whatever they can to make it awesome, is generally a waste of fucking time and money. You're better off just hiring professionals you can direct and have a ton of takes with and get something decent out of them.

EDIT:
I feel like CD Projekt Red was out of their element and really didn't know where to go. So they relied on Keanu hype and Pondsmith and AAA generic watered down trash. They 100% feel like they got cold feet on their original concept and just constantly watered it down over and over.
This is what happens when games = films becomes mainstream. These developers want to create a film, so they hire celebrities to voice act and be motion captured in their game. Kojima managed to make a walking simulator with how many celebrities?
Wait, so it's just a looter-shooter like The Division and Destiny?
Can i get a cliffnotes version of this? I'm not watching an hour long video.
 
Watching someone go through the character creator and man does it look boring for a sci-fi game, just fleshbags. Maybe there's customization later in the game where you at least pretend, but it's lame they don't give options to go partial cyborg or even full robot in the character creator. You would think in a cyberpunk world you'd have people that would entirely rid themselves of a human appearance for various reasons, but maybe I was expecting too much. A lot of the augments just seem slapped on.
 
Watching someone go through the character creator and man does it look boring for a sci-fi game, just fleshbags. Maybe there's customization later in the game where you at least pretend, but it's lame they don't give options to go partial cyborg or even full robot in the character creator. You would think in a cyberpunk world you'd have people that would entirely rid themselves of a human appearance for various reasons, but maybe I was expecting too much. A lot of the augments just seem slapped on.
To be fair, being full cyborg means being completely broken. It's an RPG, there has to be some progression.
 
Either this is a troll or you have shit taste.

In F:NV, I can murder every single faction in the game and still win. If I don't like an NPC? I kill them. If I hate all the bullshit going on in the Desert, I murder everyone and just leave it in chaos. I don't want to be a bitch boy for a shitty OC, thanks. Sort of defeats the fucking purpose.

Bu-But its OK when F;NV does it because they do it right and you can shoot the terrible OC characters!!!!

Its not like they have an entire DLC focused around one of the developer's self inserts telling you all his opinions on the factions he made that only lets you kill him in the end after putting up with him for the full thing boy wouldn't that be exactly like your original complaint wouldn't that be embarrassing

Is it? In a world of nearly endless and cheap body augmentation wouldn't the average person be exceptionally beautiful rather than exceptionally ugly?

Like that one crazy doctor in Bioshock said. I guess there are some disadvantages in being a beautiful woman if you're in a shithole city filled with criminals, it might be in their best interest to be ugly.

See its lore friendly.
 
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