Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Bakarina]

I wonder what the long term effects of excessive use of cleaners and disinfectants will be. I understand the prolonged use of hand sanitizers can kill off even the good bacteria and you can develop staph infections along any cuts you might have on your hands (plus cracked skin is common with overuse of hand sanitizers).

I feel like everyone over reacting and having to disinfect everything after they go out to get their amazon groceries are blowing this out of proportion

 

[NoReturn]

I would love an entire thread dedicated to reddit doomerposting and hypochondriacism. I could fill it with examples already. Heres a new one:

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Remember when someone gets mad at you for not following their made up rules, this is who you're speaking to. Found on a thread where OP was looking for advice on how to get rid of a roommate (who works in a hospital no less) because he *gasp* had his girlfriend over. And *sounds of shock and awe* crossed state lines to see friends.

Seriously though, imagine living like this for the last year.

He's keeping the fucking cat in his room?!

 

[Bakarina]

He's keeping the fucking cat in his room?!

Poor cat. Also, im sure disinfecting anything works real well when you spend your days in close proximity to a box that's made to be shat in

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

Michigan upper peninsula somewheres:

Baraga County officials declare refusal to continue restrictions: 'Enough is enough'

Baraga County is no longer complying with Gov. Whitmer’s COVID-19 restrictions, according to a manifesto signed by nine officials.

upgazette.com

Baraga County officials declare refusal to continue restrictions: 'Enough is enough'​

Baraga County is no longer complying with Gov. Whitmer’s COVID-19 restrictions, according to a manifesto signed by nine officials.

Sheriff Joe Brogan posted a copy of the manifesto on Facebook. “We are putting the state of Michigan on notice that we have no intention of participating in the unconditional destruction of our citizens’ economic security and liberty. We further declare our intention to take no action whatsoever in furtherance of this terribly misguided agenda.”

He said that they have created the manifesto in response to the many phone calls, emails, and requests from the community regarding the lockdown protocols.

The manifesto, which was signed by Sheriff Joe Brogan, Clerk Wendy Goodreau, Treasurer Jill Tollefson, Prosecuting Attorney Joseph O’Leary and Commissioners Gale Eilola, Dan Robillard, Will Wiggins, William Rolof, and Lyle Olsen, further reads:

“Finally, we call upon the Michigan Legislature to exercise their co-equal authority by adopting constitutionally sound measures which limit the unchecked exercise of executive power, which restore individual responsibility and accountability, and which return Michigan to the ranks of freedom-loving governments everywhere.”

Liquor licenses can still be suspended and businesses can still be fined in Baraga County by state agencies.

Total county population: ~9000.

Whitmer lacks knowledge, experience in making tough decisions for Michigan

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer doesn't have the necessary experience to make tough decisions, which has become apparent during the COVID-19 pandemic, Rep. Beau LaFave (R-Iron Mountain) told the UP Gazette.

upgazette.com

Whitmer lacks knowledge, experience in making tough decisions for Michigan​

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer doesn't have the necessary experience to make tough decisions, which has become apparent during the COVID-19 pandemic, Rep. Beau LaFave (R-Iron Mountain) told the UP Gazette.

"I think the governor fundamentally doesn’t know how to manage a crisis,” LaFave said.

Whitmer spent 14 years in the minority party in the statehouse but has never had any major responsibility, he claimed.

“And that lack of experience is really showing during this terrible pandemic,” LaFave told the UP Gazette.

He said the goal of the state’s shutdown was to take 15 days to slow the spread of COVID-19 so the health care system would not get overwhelmed. Lockdowns don’t prevent virus transmission effectively, according to LaFave.

In rural Michigan where LaFave lives, he said the health care system never got anywhere near being overwhelmed. Now, with the uptick in cases, the data he sees is showing the majority of new cases are people in their twenties who aren’t as likely to have serious medical complications.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/01/newest-vaccine-timeline-pushes-lower-priority-groups-further-into-2021.html

Newest vaccine timeline pushes lower priority groups further into 2021​

The general public isn't projected to begin vaccinations until August under Michigan's latest vaccine projection.
Chances of Michigan opening back up this year: zero point zero zero zero.

 

[Garm]

I wonder what the long term effects of excessive use of cleaners and disinfectants will be. I understand the prolonged use of hand sanitizers can kill off even the good bacteria and you can develop staph infections along any cuts you might have on your hands (plus cracked skin is common with overuse of hand sanitizers).

I feel like everyone over reacting and having to disinfect everything after they go out to get their amazon groceries are blowing this out of proportion

Mother Nature never stopped evolving new viruses. If the cleaners don't evaporate then it gives bacteria a gauntlet to run against until the strongest survive to reproduce. Those bacteria will require stronger cleaners to kill as current ones become less effective.

Likely we have just engineered an actual plague due to the terror of this "plague."

 

[s0mbra]

And we are doing a bang up job at it, arent we ? Doing exactly what they want.
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Unfortunately yes.
I've always been the teachers pet type and always tried to genuinely just be good to people even to my own detriment.
This last year has straight up broken me. I don't want to be a part of the problem but I just cant

As for the reccomendation of moving down to FL? Housing is usually way more expensive even inland, try to steer clear of places snowbirds flock or your errands will start taking twice as long in the winter, and be prepared to never leave your house in the summer ever. Oh and beaches actually suck. FL has a beautiful array of wildlife though and most people are generally very friendly. Least round these parts.

I'm actually surprised at how few out of state license plates I saw this year. you would think they'd be coming down in droves since we're open (well, as long as your entire family doesn't pray at the alter of the all mighty coof, forcing you into a self imposed lockdown anyway...)

Also god I'm so tired of seeing disgusting masks littering the sidewalks every time I go out. So much for saving the environment?

 

[Toolbox]

I wonder what the long term effects of excessive use of cleaners and disinfectants will be. I understand the prolonged use of hand sanitizers can kill off even the good bacteria and you can develop staph infections along any cuts you might have on your hands (plus cracked skin is common with overuse of hand sanitizers).

I feel like everyone over reacting and having to disinfect everything after they go out to get their amazon groceries are blowing this out of proportion

Especially for household pets, this amount of disinfecting will in the long term be deadly. Get ready to see pets with massive lung problems in the least from inhaling all this shit.

 

[Plank]

I almost never watch the legacy new media stories that youtube now exclusively pushes on users, but ended up getting linked to a random story about a relatively small number of people waiting in line for their PalsyJab.

The comments were encouraging.

Sure there were a few crazies but for the most part a large number of 'fuck no!' posters were quite well informed and clearly have been doing their basic research outside the endless legacy media garbage.

I thought at first that these stories about officials complaining about the incredibly low numbers of people who were showing up for their palsy dance parties was just the usual doomers refusing to leave their fear caves. But these large numbers of people making it clear they aren't EVER going to agree to this shit makes me worry that officials are now going to throw a tantrum and use this lack of large numbers of human guinea pigs to punish people with even harsher lockdowns.

 

[Salubrious]

Two articles, one might be late.

Also, Archive is backed up, so give me a minute.

First from nine days ago. They've fearmongered people so badly that a man in Minnesota went to or passed by a gym, saw people without face masks, and then when he complained to the manager, he pulled a gun out saying that the manager's answer wasn't good enough. That's bad enough, but the man WASN'T EVEN A MEMBER AT THE GYM.

https://archive.is/1Vhgq

A Minnesota man was arrested after he allegedly pulled out a gun in a gym because members were not wearing masks while they worked out.

Michael Florhaug, 64, reportedly went to an LA Fitness on Dec. 31 in Maplewood to monitor whether gym members were wearing face masks. He is not a member of the gym.

He reportedly spoke to an employee at the front desk to alert them that members were not complying with mask mandates and spoke in an "aggressive and angry" tone.

A manager then spoke with the man and said the gym does not employ enough people to monitor face masks but that Florhaug could pay an employee personally to enforce the rules.

Florhaug called the manager “dumb” and said he would "take pictures of people” in the gym to get the business in trouble with the state.

The manager refused to let Florhaug enter, prompting the man to say, "Oh yeah?"

He then pulled out a 9 mm handgun.

An employee said Florhaug did not “flash” the gun but that he "completely removed it from his pocket" and pointed it at the manager.

He then tried to enter the gym again, but he was tackled by the manager, who thought he would shoot members who were not wearing masks.

Florhaug was arrested and charged with one count of second-degree assault with a dangerous weapon. He will appear in court on Tuesday.

Second, based George Hill (NBA player) said that he's a grown man and he's not going to let COVID protocols prevent him from seeing his family. Idiot Dan Feldman of NBC Sports said that Hill is completely out of touch because lots of people haven't seen their families in 10 months.

Uh, if you haven't seen your family in 10 months, that's on YOU. Ok, there are cases with people and families being out of state or whatever. But even if you are terrified of COVID, go put on a fucking mask and go see your family! Stand 10 feet away if you have to, but go see them.

In completely underrelated news, there are studies coming out about how depression, isolation, and loneliness have increased among senior citizens because they haven't seen their families in so long.

https://archive.is/7kWBz

The NBA implemented new coronavirus protocols that essentially prohibit players from interacting with anyone outside their household or team.

Thunder guard George Hill, via Joe Mussatto of The Oklahoman:

“I’m a grown man, so I’m gonna do what I wanna do,” Hill said after the Thunder’s 112-102 loss to the Spurs. “If I wanna go see my family, I’m gonna go see my family. They can’t tell me I have to stay in the room 24/7. If it’s that serious then maybe we shouldn’t be playing. It’s life. No one’s gonna be able to just cancel their whole life for this game. That’s how I think about it.”

George sounds completely out of touch. Does he not realize many people have gone 10 months without seeing their family? They’ve done it not because of a game, but in order to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

There are reasonable objections to the new protocols. Interactions that are two of outdoors, distanced and masked should be at least somewhat allowed. Players who’ve already had coronavirus should have greater freedoms, as the risk of reinfection is exceedingly low.

But George simply complaining that he can’t do whatever he wants shows an uncharacteristic lack of perspective.

Not only about the virus, but also the league.

NBA players draw extremely high salaries for extremely short periods of time. In his 13th season with nearly $100 million in career earnings, Hill has beaten the odds to have a great career. But for many other players, this is their narrow to earn major money. The season getting derailed by coronavirus would be devastating to them.

If he’d rather live freely than follow the (union-approved) protocols designed to keep everyone safe enough to continue games, George should opt out of the season and forgo his salary until it’s safe to play without the restrictions.

And that’s just about maintaining the league’s money-making operation. He also ought to consider a responsibility to keep people around him safe by limiting his interactions. Not everyone he comes into contact with embraces a higher risk profile.

 

[NoReturn]

Poor cat. Also, im sure disinfecting anything works real well when you spend your days in close proximity to a box that's made to be shat in

Step 0. Have cat.
Step 1. Sanitize entire room repeatedly, keep cat's shit-box in your room.
Step 2. Continue to clean, cat continues to shit.
Step 3. Progressively remove all non-cat-shit bacteria from your space, as you repeatedly kill the original microscopic ecosystem and the only "new" bacteria/viruses/parasites coming into it are coming out of the cat.

You have now created a pod that has a microbiome that almost entirely consists of human symbiotes which have resisted your antibacterial purges and cat-shit-bugs.

 

[Garm]

The tinfoil hat in me thinks they got people to riot in the Capitol over something stupid/disorganized (Qtard bullshit/overturning an election that TPTB rigged/god knows what) just to identify potential flaws in their security and to lessen the shock of the event when it happens from a group of protestors with clear goals.

And it already has pressurized us. Censorship ramped up in 2020 to prevent dreaded "misinformation" (now the keywords are "incitement to violence" and "insurrection") and were it not for the """"""pandemic"""""" I doubt yet another scumbag being put down by the police would've drawn so much attention. Even if the DNC successfully rigged the election (which would've been a lot harder without the mail-in voting) then I doubt the response would've been so drastic. People are scared and rightfully so. They heard Creepy Uncle Joe and Cameltoe Harris voicing support for BLM and Antifa rioters and they heard the promise of a national mask mandate and national lockdowns. People who are backed into a corner do stupid shit, but there's a reason it happens. Ask why they feel backed into a corner.

And I don't think you can give a sane answer to this question, the answer is that politicians are either horribly inept and incapable of doing their jobs or they are outright evil and deliberately fucking us over for personal gain. We're talking so fucking bad a president who mostly sat on his ass and talked shit on Twitter did a better job than they did. They can't turn off the propaganda machine now, the virus must be made out to be the worst thing ever because if it isn't, then they're exposed as either woefully inept or downright evil. And people are getting skeptical of it, like I heard two coworkers earlier talking about how the vaccine is untested and possibly dangerous and that they won't bother getting it for at least a year.

People are indeed getting skeptical. I brought COVID up with a friend of mine who on an average year locks down like Howard Hughes during flu season. He even warned me about how dangerous COVID could be (since he was in China when this all started.) He said to me

Yeah, I'm having doubts about how deadly this thing is. I know 11 people who got COVID. 10 got sick for two weeks then they were fine. The one that died was 90 and already in the ICU for a fall.

It was a good thing to hear to be honest. That I may not be condemned to live alone in a world of liars and fools.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

All in all, it's a dumb measure that's going to be another big blow for local shops

It's not dumb if that's the intent.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

There's hardly any difference between a "confinement" and that 6PM curfew. Our restaurants, cafés, cinemas, gyms, museums etc. have all been closed since early October with no reopening in sight.

That 6PM curfew has been implemented to stop people from gathering at homes after work / school and before the 8PM curfew - we were doing it with my friends for one. So no more "after work" drinks and "galette des rois" (French traditional January pies) anymore.

Outside of that, it will be very annoying for working professionals or students to get their groceries done during the week since shops will most likely close around 5:30PM. It will also hit shops hard since a lot of their clientele, both in retail and food, came by in the late afternoon / early evening (Parisian streets were pretty packed these past few weeks around 5-6PM).

All in all, it's a dumb measure that's going to be another big blow for local shops (those that have survived thus far anyways) and for the economy in general. We have had a lockdown in November, and that shit has barely reduced the amount of cases, so I sincerely doubt that this new curfew will.

Sorry about that.. I’ve spent some of my life in La Defense and thinking about this bullshit in Paris makes me unhappy. Best wishes to you.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

over here government drew up a support package to tide businesses over (75% of lost profit or something) in november which apparently only a quarter of applied businesses got so far, and now suddenly got stealthily changed that you're only entitled under specific circumstances or any gain is near zero. which is great after 2 months of no business, especially december.

PPP and other relief funds have been hit or miss at best and inconsistent at worst. The TL;DR from my job observations are that few individuals and small businesses that should have qualified on paper received them whereas bigger companies in the area -- one of these being a rather well-known big-name law firm -- somehow manged to get PPP money. TBF, I do know of a business that recieved some sort of grant money, but the amount they got was barely 1/3 of a single month's receipts. That's not too helpful when they were closed for roughtly 2 months during the Spring, operated at reduced capacity during the summer and fall, and had their operations greatly curtailed since November. As others have said, it reinforces the perception that the government cares little about small businesses and sole proprietors apart from lip service.

And we have no worse outcomes and numbers here than anywhere else. Better by some measures.

This is what gets me when the Governor and state surgeon general report how numbers are increasing again. Perhaps that's true when looking at the entire state, but my county's numbers have gone steadily downward over the holidays and into the new year. The county numbers seem much better than the supposed statewide trends: less than 100 total daily cases when I checked two days ago and barely 5 deaths every 4 days. As much as it makes sense to let counties tweak directives as needed, state-level officials find it easier to paint the entire state with a broad stroke if it means they can keep moving the goalposts to their benefit.

Its here to stay forever and they get to keep making money producing vaccines.

"Big Pharma" is almost a political machine in an of itself. It's an example of bureaucratic inertia; the COVID vaccine is likely here to stay even if someone were to announce that we've finally beaten it simply because drug companies aren't going to give up a money-maker if they aren't forced to do so.

Spoiler: Side Tangent

A foreign citizen who spent time here pursuing a graduate degree was amazed at how quickly US doctors and medical facilities prescribe medications in response to even the most minor ailments. He mentioned how the emphasis is on detecting the underlying cause in his home country and that non-drug treatments are used first if and when appropriate.

Outside of that, it will be very annoying for working professionals or students to get their groceries done during the week since shops will most likely close around 5:30PM. It will also hit shops hard since a lot of their clientele, both in retail and food, came by in the late afternoon / early evening (Parisian streets were pretty packed these past few weeks around 5-6PM).

Do grocery stores in France have weekend hours to accommodate those that work during the day or do they close or have reduced hours to take advantage of the traditional weekend downtime most people in Europe normally look forward to? Either way, the 6 PM curfew makes little sense for reasons already mentioned. Better they have it at 7 or 8 PM to allow those working during the day to run their errands on the way home. Then again, governments acting logically is an oxymoron.

Chances of Michigan opening back up this year: zero point zero zero zero.

It sure feels that way when three weeks somehow snowballed into 10-plus months with no signs of stopping any time soon.

Also god I'm so tired of seeing disgusting masks littering the sidewalks every time I go out. So much for saving the environment?

I agree . I've occasionally found used masks outside my office when I arrive in the morning. What's sad is that there's a trash can at the bus stop at the end of the particular block where they could be discarded.

It's gross but also a bit of a catch-22 for me. I'd rather not pick them up to throw them out in case the person that discarded them was germy. However, that particular city's code enforcement department is notorious for its heavy-handed approach; I don't need them threatening me with citations for not picking up litter outside my office.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

I went looking earlier in the thread for that 4chan post about Brazil, and this post from a year ago made me chuckle:

If anything, it'll just grow the fashion industry for respirators and surgical masks.
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Especially for household pets, this amount of disinfecting will in the long term be deadly. Get ready to see pets with massive lung problems in the least from inhaling all this shit.

Someone told me there's been a massive increase in calls to poison control, with kids drinking hand sanitizer. The alcohol apparently crashes the blood sugar in little kids, so there was advice about getting juice into them immediately.

 

[Bakarina]

White vinegar is a fantastic cleaner and disinfectant and doesn't require a call to poison control if I catch the animals or the kids getting near it.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I was out somewhere, so I couldn't catch who said it and where, but someone claimed that if and when COVID is deemed under control, flu season is going to strike with a vengeance. I'm pressing X to doubt and dismissing this as yet another attempt to keep everyone in a state of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

There is no reason it would.

Barring some random unlikely mutation that could have happened anyways without COVID, there are no pressures selecting for greather lethality in the multiple influenza strains running around.
If anything, COVID will result in a less deadly than usual situation (I mean as we saw this year) because COVID is murking most of the likely targets. Basically COVID is picking off those who would have died from the Flu, plus some extra, competing* with the flu but also leaving less targets in the future. The only group at risk from the influenza that is safe from COVID is toddlers, but even then there's still no reason the flu would "come back with a vengeance".

Give women agency, they said! *6 billion infanticides later*

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world/covid-19-virus-is-here-to-stay-says-vacine-maker-modernas-ceo-6346541.html

COVID-19 virus is here to stay, says vaccine maker Moderna's CEO​

Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel says health officials will have to constantly be on the lookout for new variants of the SARS-CoV-2, while scientists keep coming up with vaccines to fight them.​

Constantly on the look out for new variants of the weakest, fakest, gayest disease ever. These fucking demons.

No shit!
It's so frustrating having called this shit almost a year ago that the virus was here to stay and "defeating" it was a pipe dream born from unchecked human hubris; yet here we are being proven right but still losing because the twats in power still find a way to spin it to their own benefit.

Mother Nature never stopped evolving new viruses. If the cleaners don't evaporate then it gives bacteria a gauntlet to run against until the strongest survive to reproduce. Those bacteria will require stronger cleaners to kill as current ones become less effective.
Likely we have just engineered an actual plague due to the terror of this "plague."

Yes and no.
Prescribed antibiotics are the cause for resistant bacteria, and certain special proteins they put into handsoaps to a minor degree (though the later is somewhat disputed). Basically specialized enzymes and other compounds that inhibit some facet of the bacteria (or virus, but usually bacteria). For example Penicillin produces a "beta-ring" that lassos the bacteria's cell wall and stops their reproduction. It can be resisted with a protein that's basically scissors that cuts the ring and lets them reproduce.

On the other hand, shit like hydrogen peroxide, alcohol*, bleach, etc., etc., basically kill the bacteria and viruses by fucking evaporating and dissolving them.
Compare this to killing humans with ricin versus killing humans with napalm and lava.

Lastly its worth noting that the pathogens aren't "evolving" new features, as much as we are just killing 99.99% of the ones that don't have the resistant traits, and leaving the resistant ones there to reproduce.
*now some shit can develop alcohol resistance, but that's more so they can survive in decaying fruits and other biotic decay acids than the result of human disinfection

 

[Garm]

Do grocery stores in France have weekend hours to accommodate those that work during the day or do they close or have reduced hours to take advantage of the traditional weekend downtime most people in Europe normally look forward to? Either way, the 6 PM curfew makes little sense for reasons already mentioned. Better they have it at 7 or 8 PM to allow those working during the day to run their errands on the way home. Then again, governments acting logically is an oxymoron.

Source being a relative that worked in Switzerland for a few months. Said all the shops close at a certain time which coincided with every other occupation. Sounded like someone would have to leave work early to go shopping.

There is no reason it would.

Barring some random unlikely mutation that could have happened anyways without COVID, there are no pressures selecting for greather lethality in the multiple influenza strains running around.
If anything, COVID will result in a less deadly than usual situation (I mean as we saw this year) because COVID is murking most of the likely targets. Basically COVID is picking off those who would have died from the Flu, plus some extra, competing* with the flu but also leaving less targets in the future. The only group at risk from the influenza that is safe from COVID is toddlers, but even then there's still no reason the flu would "come back with a vengeance".

No shit!
It's so frustrating having called this shit almost a year ago that the virus was here to stay and "defeating" it was a pipe dream born from unchecked human hubris; yet here we are being proven right but still losing because the twats in power still find a way to spin it to their own benefit.

Yes and no.
Prescribed antibiotics are the cause for resistant bacteria, and certain special proteins they put into handsoaps to a minor degree (though the later is somewhat disputed). Basically specialized enzymes and other compounds that inhibit some facet of the bacteria (or virus, but usually bacteria). For example Penicillin produces a "beta-ring" that lassos the bacteria's cell wall and stops their reproduction. It can be resisted with a protein that's basically scissors that cuts the ring and lets them reproduce.

On the other hand, shit like hydrogen peroxide, alcohol*, bleach, etc., etc., basically kill the bacteria and viruses by fucking evaporating and dissolving them.
Compare this to killing humans with ricin versus killing humans with napalm and lava.

Lastly its worth noting that the pathogens aren't "evolving" new features, as much as we are just killing 99.99% of the ones that don't have the resistant traits, and leaving the resistant ones there to reproduce.
*now some shit can develop alcohol resistance, but that's more so they can survive in decaying fruits and other biotic decay acids than the result of human disinfection

Thanks for the correction.

 

[Smug Cat]

They're still comparing Florida to a circle of hell from Dante's Inferno but meanwhile life is almost totally normal (eh like 75-80% normal) and people are generally happy. There aren't bodies piling up in streets, kids play on playgrounds and on basketball courts, the service industry is actually hiring, restaurants are somewhat busy, people aren't sperging out everywhere, schools have kids in them, the beaches are open, elder care homes aren't locked down like gulags, etc.

Then I hear from people in the Northeast and California how the NY Times is saying Florida is a slaughterhouse. They're afraid to leave the house because Big Brother says things are more dire than ever before, despite life just continuing as usual down here. But somehow they're the virtuous and smart ones since they're being told by the MSM that the South is dying when it's patently false.

Man, I'm glad as all hell I moved out of New England when I did, because the difference in quality of life is night and day. It took going somewhere where life wasn't being purposefully repressed to realize most things could just continue normally, yet I have to hear how only their fucked up way of life is a perfect model. That's a main reason why I don't think this will end any time soon. They've got the people in their states convinced they have to keep living like scared rabbits or else society will collapse, so they can't even consider that that isn't really the case. It's like trying to explain to a blind person the colours of a rainbow.

Yeah but I got to use the fireplaces - outdoor and indoor - so that was fun.

I remain so amused yet also sad at the rest of the country being tricked into thinking things are terrible here. Y’all...they’re fine. It’s still a pandemic but for a pandemic it’s fine. What more can be expected?

My daughter is a 9th grader and they’re all back in school and doing fine after all these months. About three times a week we get an email alerting us that someone at the school has been diagnosed, and that if it was someone our child shared space with, we’ll get a letter from the health department. Haven’t gotten one. School has not been shut down for a second over infections. She is also in dance several times a week, no illness there.

And we have no worse outcomes and numbers here than anywhere else. Better by some measures. And we have all these old people and more here now that the snowbirds are here. And even with these extra olds, the trends are no worse than the sheer population numbers indicate.

I feel like I’m talking to potential political refugees but...I swear, come on down. Relocate. It’s better than anywhere else in the US and it will be for a couple years, at the least.

I've been wondering lately how actually batshit it would be to straight-up move to Florida because of this. I don't like heat and I don't like humidity, so I would never have considered it before, but we're a year into this shit with no end in sight. I've become pretty blackpilled about this ever ending but I almost feel like it has to end sometime and I'd feel pretty retarded if everything opened up a month after I moved my entire life to the swamp ass capital of the world.

Although I guess that economic devastation ain't going away fast, either.

 

[Gensou Hadou]

I went looking earlier in the thread for that 4chan post about Brazil, and this post from a year ago made me chuckle:

Didn't that age well. My family likes to have TV on in the background and I see ads for "face coverings." No amount of style is gonna make me happy with those muzzles; I just want the mandates to go away.