Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Oh, and one more thing about the Rakata: the in-game Codex for TOR has this to say about their technology:

The ancient Rakata combined proficiency with the Force with a mastery of technology and bioengineering. Massive weapons of war–such as the Star Forge, a space station powered by the dark side and capable of manufacturing whole fleets–were among their largest-scale achievements, but not every Rakata creation was so grandiose. Rakata mind traps are capable of containing the psyche of an individual in a virtual environment. Creatures bred and enhanced by Rakata life-shapers can survive both hard vacuum and baradium explosives. Rakata droids possess weaponry capable of breaking apart most forms of matter at the atomic level. Rakata relics–even nonfunctional ones–are desperate sought after by those few scientists and archaeologists aware of their existence. Urban legends among smuggling rings tell of ancient devices that wreak havoc on their owners, and both Imperial Intelligence and the Strategic Information Service monitor these rumors with interest. One stray Rakata artifact can change the course of history.

So I guess BioWare still thinks that their pants-less turdlords are hot shit, despite that most of their tech should realistically have been rendered as obsolete as flint axes long ages before any of the Old Republic games took place.

It's a completely different civilization, pal. It's like how the Romans were far more advanced than many Dark-Age kingdoms that came in after them. The art of mixing technology with the Force died with the Rakatans, and the civilizations that came in after them weren't as advanced as them, kind of like how in Game of Thrones, Valyria had magic and all sorts of crazy arts, and they died out after some calamity and less-advanced civilizations took their place afterwards.

"Subversion" became lauded for its own sake, not because it was honestly seen as good in and of itself, but because it served as a means of breaking down, discrediting or otherwise throwing doubt on traditional Western ideals of beauty, courage and virtue, ideals very much embodied, as it happens, in the person of Luke Skywalker over the course of Episodes IV to VI. Want to test this explanation? Try and subvert a trope beloved of the Left and see what happens...

They REE at you and call you a reactionary.

They'll keep trying to push that narrative, though, because the soul of modern western sociopolitical orthodoxy (of which NuWars is a wonderfully representative example) ultimately rests upon a foundation of continuous gas-lighting.

Which of course, will fall apart once western civilization collapses. Because the civilizations of the east and the south have more in common with the Medievals than they do with modern western leftists, who, thanks to their population demographics, won't last a century.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

The "Civil War" narrative sounds like the latest stream of copium that closeted or open Filoni Fags are using to declare him as the sole savior of Star Wars, and fooling themselves into believing he's "a fan like them" and is sticking it to Krazy Kathleen and her gaggle of SJW's...

Which, of course, is in complete ignorance of all of Filoni's efforts to be LFL's waterboy, and the woke antics he himself has openly displayed through his dumb fucking Martez Sisters Arc, his outspoken support of TLJ, his enthusiastic agreement with the butchering of Luke, and his proud endorsement of the deification of female characters in mythology over their "inferior" male ones (as depicted in Art of TROS book).

This is one thing that the Filoni Fandom completely refuses to acknowledge, and will actively shout down to protect their favorite wolfaboo. They will actively shove their fingers in their ears at the surest sign of their savior being infected by the same idealogy they claim to resent Kathleen And Co. for having.

It's part of why I give a lot of respect to YTers like Ryan at RK Outpost for refusing to join the flock of Filoni Cronies and giving him blind support. He actively called out Filoni's shit plenty of times, and has practically laughed off the prospect of an internal LFL Civil War every time someone brings it up to him.


Jones is universally recognized for playing the role of Darth Vader, but one of the roles I love him in the most is as Thulsa Doom in the original Conan.

Such a powerful voice and presence. And it sticks in my mind more than Vader, because we actually see Jones' face and performance on-camera. His speech about flesh being stronger than steel that he gives to Conan is my favorite line in that entire film.

I don’t think there’s a civil war so much as dick measuring contest between different projects and teams. Internal rivalries are common in a company of that size and almost everyone in the entertainment industry is a left wing prima donna. I highly doubt Filoni is waging a secret Q-anon-esque crusade against Kennedy. I also doubt Kennedy cares about Star Wars fluff beyond how it affects her bonuses.

Quibbling point: Hasbro has abandoned them, not Disney (or at least LucasFilms current leadership)

Rey sold at first when VII came out but since then I’ve noticed interest in her has dipped, especially in younger women, teens, and pre-teens. Most of her die hard fans are creepy progressive guys and older women who like to read and ship “young adult fiction.” I have seen some stuff that was introduced in Rogue One sell, specifically the Beach and Death Troopers. In cosplay and gaming, the troopers seem to have caught on because of their aesthetic but there isn’t that much demand for ST stuff at all, even the ST troopers.

Which is probably why the Disney shills had their panties in a bunch when Luke appeared in the Mandalorian. To have a Luke that fought and use force powers instead of some space bum who moped that he "failed" is as alien to them as a good story.

Yeah a lot of them really hate Luke. I suspect they always hated Luke and their real fandom is politics. Tbh he’s my litmus test for if someone is a real fan or not. It’s possible to have a different favorite character say Leia or Han but it’s really hard to like the OT and hate Luke. I’m sure there’s some autist out there that does but it’s extremely unlikely. Luke was the OT.

God, I do miss the Yuuzhan Vong and their wonderful cast of weirdos. That moment where the devout and introspective Czulkang Lah realizes that he's been fatally outmaneuvered by the GFFA and takes a quiet last moment to say goodbye to his (brutal and ruthless) son via villip just before his flagship is destroyed still gets me every time...

I liked the Vong, their culture, their aesthetic, etc., but the one thing I disliked about them was how everything pointed to them and how it retroactively shifted the “climax” of Star Wars offscreen. I didn’t mind references to them in Kotor and what not but I disliked how many claimed the Death Star was achskually to fight the Vong and #PalpatineDidNothingWrong. Tbh that’s also why I’m ambivalent about The High Republic because I expect many of the authors, some are new but a surprising number worked for Lucasfilm pre-Disney, to try to shift the focus of Star Wars to their pet projects and characters. I expect the worst authors to constantly play up the importance of their self inserts and how space weed was the greatest threat EVAH in books that take place after ROTJ and at that point it’s irrelevant.

I had other complaints about the EU but generally they apply to the Disney Wars x 10. For example, I didn’t like the idea that Palpatine came back but at least in the comics it built up to it, it was more organic, and everybody flipped out. It was more entertaining too even though I would’ve preferred that he stayed dead. In the ST it’s like “oh, he’s back suddenly, I guess we’re even more doomed now. Oh no.”

 

[White Devil]

I don’t think there’s a civil war so much as dick measuring contest between different projects and teams. Internal rivalries are common in a company and almost everyone in the entertainment industry is a left wing pre-Madonna. I highly doubt Filoni is waging a secret Q-anon-esque crusade against Kennedy. I also doubt Kennedy cares about Star Wars fluff beyond how it affects her bonuses.

Rey sold at first when VII came out but since then I’ve noticed interest in her has dipped, especially in younger women, teens, and pre-teens. Most of her die hard fans are creepy progressive guys and older women who like to read and ship “young adult fiction.” I have seen some stuff that was introduced in Rogue One sell, specifically the Beach and Death Troopers. In cosplay and gaming, the troopers seem to have caught on because of their aesthetic but there isn’t that much demand for ST stuff at all, even the ST troopers.


Yeah a lot of them really hate Luke. I suspect they always hated Luke and their real fandom is politics. Tbh he’s my litmus test for if someone is a real fan or not. It’s possible to have a different favorite character say Leia or Han but it’s really hard to like the OT and hate Luke. I’m sure there’s some autist out there that does but it’s extremely unlikely. Luke was the OT.

I liked the Vong, their culture, their aesthetic, etc., but the one thing I disliked about them was how everything pointed to them and how it retroactively shifted the “climax” of Star Wars offscreen. I didn’t mind references to them in Kotor and what not but I disliked how many claimed the Death Star was achskually to fight the Vong and #PalpatineDidNothingWrong. Tbh that’s also why I’m ambivalent about The High Republic because I expect many of the authors, some are new but a surprising number worked for Lucasfilm pre-Disney, to try to shift the focus of Star Wars to their pet projects and characters. I expect the worst authors to constantly play up the importance of their self inserts and how space weed was the greatest threat EVAH in books that take place after ROTJ and at that point it’s irrelevant.

I had other complaints about the EU but generally they apply to the Disney Wars x 10. For example, I didn’t like the idea that Palpatine came back but at least in the comics it built up to it, it was more organic, and everybody flipped out. It was more entertaining too even though I would’ve preferred that he stayed dead. In the ST it’s like “oh, he’s back suddenly, I guess we’re even more doomed now. Oh no.”

Prima donna.*

Sorry for the autism. I agree with everything you said.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Prima donna.*

Sorry for the autism. I agree with everything you said.

No need to apologize. This entire site is predicated upon autism and wouldn’t exist without it. It was actually bugging me too because it kept autocorrecting and I wasn’t sure how to spell it.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Star Wars: The High Republic's Real Villains Are More Dangerous Than The Sith

I like how they say shit like this even though it's a prequel that takes place like 200 years before Phantom Menace and there are absolutely no lasting effects seen in any Star Wars media.

But yeah, totally more dangerous than the Sith who took control of the entire fucking Galaxy.

 

[White Devil]

Star Wars: The High Republic's Real Villains Are More Dangerous Than The Sith

I like how they say shit like this even though it's a prequel that takes place like 200 years before Phantom Menace and there are absolutely no lasting effects seen in any Star Wars media.

But yeah, totally more dangerous than the Sith who took control of the entire fucking Galaxy.

Ahahahahahahahahah

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Star Wars: The High Republic's Real Villains Are More Dangerous Than The Sith

I like how they say shit like this even though it's a prequel that takes place like 200 years before Phantom Menace and there are absolutely no lasting effects seen in any Star Wars media.

But yeah, totally more dangerous than the Sith who took control of the entire fucking Galaxy.

Not that it will ever be their intention, but High Republic would be more dangerous in the sense that Gandalf with the One Ring is worse than Sauron. At least people understood Sauron was objectively, if distantly, evil. Evil Gandalf would have created the most sanctimonious orcs ever.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Star Wars: The High Republic's Real Villains Are More Dangerous Than The Sith

I like how they say shit like this even though it's a prequel that takes place like 200 years before Phantom Menace and there are absolutely no lasting effects seen in any Star Wars media.

But yeah, totally more dangerous than the Sith who took control of the entire fucking Galaxy.

Wasn’t the whole point of the Sith to hide in the shadows? They didn’t want the Jedi and Republic to think they were threats. So in universe I could see why someone in that era would likely think that the sith weren’t a threat but from a meta point of view that can’t really be true. In fact I’d be willing to bet that it does in fact turn out to be a sith plot. Even if the Sith weren’t involved we know that they do eventually succeed in destroying the Jedi as an organization and overthrow the Republic while whatever new threat they think of will not.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I would agree that the people at Lucasfilm hate Luke as he is a traditional hero, but let's think of possible alternative reasons, to prevent narrow thinking.

Disney makes him into a goofball because that is what they've done to all characters. They all have act Joss Whedon-esque or be awkward in some way. It seems to come from a trend in writing where characters in unrealistic settings don't take themselves too seriously, see Marvel films where characters make constant quips in battle. That's why people like Luke's scene in the Mandalorian, he was portrayed as a powerful Jedi by action alone. If he quipped "This is easier than Beggar's Canyon." or make himself and a Dark Trooper trip on his cape, it would ruin the scene as it reminds us that we are watching fiction. The quipping only works in some situations, not an entire universe.

 

[White Devil]

Wasn’t the whole point of the Sith to hide in the shadows? They didn’t want the Jedi and Republic to think they were threats. So in universe I could see why someone in that era would likely think that the sith weren’t a threat but from a meta point of view that can’t really be true. In fact I’d be willing to bet that it does in fact turn out to be a sith plot. Even if the Sith weren’t involved we know that they do eventually succeed in destroying the Jedi as an organization and overthrow the Republic while whatever new threat they think of will not.

No, this is just pure spite on Disney's part. This is really just them dickwagging and going, "Our homebrewed villains are worse and more scarier and threatening and powerful than anything Lucas or the EU had! Na na na boo boo!".

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Moore was hired by Lucas specifically because of his success with Battlestar Galactica, so I would presume the latter.

Well, that would be...interesting, if nothing else, simply to read about the sort of battles that he'd inevitably have with Lucas over storytelling (after all, if even a craven brown-noser like Dave Filoni would fight George over certain things, it seems pretty certain that Moore would also).

Those scenes in Enemy Lines between Czulkang and his son were fantastic, and easily my favorite parts of the book. Stuff like that, the bitter spat between Vua Rapung and Mazan Kwaad in Edge of Victory, Nom Anor's plotting, and Nen Yim's redemptive journey is the reason why I love the Vong so much. They didn't feel like the monster-of-the-week villains from the Bantam Era...they were people. Characters steeped in the vile religion and culture, certainly, but with different personal motives and even personal loyalties. There was legit drama going on between them, far away from the heroes, and often being resolved without the need for major characters like Luke Skywalker or Jacen Solo.

It's one of the reasons why I was so disinterested in the Killiks when I got around to Dark Nest, because there was no cast of memorable villains among the bugs, with their bland and woefully uninteresting hive mind.

Exactly. I think the moment that really hooked me on the NJO was when Shedao Shai presents Corran Horn with the jeweled skeleton of Horn's old friend, Elegos A'Kla, after ritually torturing and executing him, and, from Shai's perspective, this is all well and good because he's granted A'Kla a very high degree of honor in Yuuzhan Vong culture. That was what made the Vong such great villains, the way that they were portrayed as acting in accordance with a consistent set of ideals and principals that just happened to be complete and utter anathema to the heroes, and vice-versa. It's like the Aztecs invading Spain, to borrow one of my old history teachers' favorite hypothetical scenarios.

I'm pleased to say that FOTJ so far appears to be a return to form, with the Lost Tribe of the Sith providing some more interesting culture and characters like Vestara Khai. And from their designs alone, I feel like I'm going to be equally enamored with the Members of the One Sith in the Legacy comics.

It's a fucking shame that we used to have a literal cast of characters making up the villains in Star Wars, whereas nowadays Disney/LFL can barely muster one.

SJW dogma seems to demand that the enemy be at once inhuman and incompetent, all-powerful and yet easily defeated by diverse coalitions of dangerhair stand-ins suddenly "standing together." It doesn't make for very effective storytelling.

The ironic part of this is because they misunderstand society and people. They end up recreating their version of oppression and false consciousness they are meant to be against. The progress of gender and race rights of the last few centuries shows their assumption on society was wrong. Yet as they think that is how the world works, they're wanting to create it for their own agenda.

The street-level drones may exist at that level of awareness, but I suspect that the upper-echelons of the Left (for lack of a better term) are fully conscious that their ideology runs contrary to human nature and human history and simply don't care, because it's a means to acquire more power. "Equality," "trans-LGBBQ rights" and the like are just a pretty lie sold to impressionable, mentally and emotionally-damaged idiots to manipulate them into enthroning elitist psychopaths.

If you're going to post the sexiest character in the entire franchise at least use her bikini shots
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Reminds me that that series was running with the implication of future half-human, half-alien Skywalker babies.

Wild times, eh?

Specifically I'm refering to anything non-main film release, in a humorous manner by referencing the infamous holiday special.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Haha, that's a good point. When I was a kid I had about 6 or 7 different Luke action figures, maybe more.

ANH Tatooine luke
Hoth Luke
Bespin Luke (with detachable hand)
Cool yellow jacket Luke
ROTJ Luke
Stormtrooper Luke (helmet removable)
Shadows of the Empire Luke
X-Wing flight suit Luke

And that's just one character. Apparently there was also a Dark Empire Luke Skywalker figure. That would have been badass to have

Dark Empire Luke Skywalker was indeed pretty badass. He was also arguably the most 90s-looking Star Wars figure ever made.

*edit*

Sorry, I apparently got Dark Empire Luke confused with Shadows of the Empire Luke (to be fair, both are very badass, although Dark hews a bit more towards the late 80s, aesthetically).

I remember you had to send away for the Stormrooper Han toy, but it didn't come in Kenner packaging.

The vintage SW mail-away figures didn't come carded either though, did they?

Rey's only real costume change over the entire sequel trilogy was the color of her robes (which made no sense to continue wearing after leaving not!Tatooine, it would be like Luke spending the entire original trilogy in his farmboy outfit) and a progressively growing forehead

You didn't like "The Captain's Hand"?

The whole concept of people squabbling over abortion, in a situation where mankind has apparently been reduced to a few thousand desperate refugees who even then are getting gradually whittled away by continuous enemy attacks, is completely ridiculous.

This isnt even slightly clever, ironic, humorous and doesnt even make sense, this is just mentally ill trash. What is it with these freaks.

Brainwashing, basically. Reinforced by the endorphin rush of feeling like they're defending some kind of moral high-ground and laying the law down on us heathens and sinners (note how aggressively the cartoonist's chosen stand-in is accosting Luke Skywalker). It's not wrong to say that they're addicted to huffing their own farts, in essence.

Yeah a lot of them really hate Luke. I suspect they always hated Luke and their real fandom is politics. Tbh he’s my litmus test for if someone is a real fan or not. It’s possible to have a different favorite character say Leia or Han but it’s really hard to like the OT and hate Luke. I’m sure there’s some autist out there that does but it’s extremely unlikely. Luke was the OT.

That's a great point. What sort of psycho would hate Luke Skywalker, of all characters (yes, we know exactly what kind, it's a hypothetical question).

I liked the Vong, their culture, their aesthetic, etc., but the one thing I disliked about them was how everything pointed to them and how it retroactively shifted the “climax” of Star Wars offscreen. I didn’t mind references to them in Kotor and what not but I disliked how many claimed the Death Star was achskually to fight the Vong and #PalpatineDidNothingWrong. Tbh that’s also why I’m ambivalent about The High Republic because I expect many of the authors, some are new but a surprising number worked for Lucasfilm pre-Disney, to try to shift the focus of Star Wars to their pet projects and characters. I expect the worst authors to constantly play up the importance of their self inserts and how space weed was the greatest threat EVAH in books that take place after ROTJ and at that point it’s irrelevant.

I don't think that that's a fair comparison. The narrative weight of Star Wars had to shift somewhere after the last, lingering embers of conflict between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant died down, and the idea that Palpatine may have been preparing the Empire to fend off the Vong invasion doesn't change the fact that his first and primary goal for the Empire was to cement Sith rule over the Galaxy forever (and in fact, the #PalpatineDidNothingWrong idea was used as an in-universe plot-point for Imperial die-hards to harp on, only to be quickly dismissed by Han Solo).

If anything, I'd say that KOTOR/TOR are much worse about "shifting the climax" because of how Palpatine is diminished by the introduction of Vitiate/Valkorion.

I had other complaints about the EU but generally they apply to the Disney Wars x 10. For example, I didn’t like the idea that Palpatine came back but at least in the comics it built up to it, it was more organic, and everybody flipped out. It was more entertaining too even though I would’ve preferred that he stayed dead. In the ST it’s like “oh, he’s back suddenly, I guess we’re even more doomed now. Oh no.”

 

[White Devil]

Pretty sure that the mail away toys just came with the figure and a gun or two. Stormtrooper Han came with a helmet and blaster. It's been over 20 years though so I can be misremembering. Also, how did Kenner not get sued by Taser for that SOTE Luke packaging?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

That's a great point. What sort of psycho would hate Luke Skywalker, of all characters (yes, we know exactly what kind, it's a hypothetical question).

People who think that "it's time for the Jedi to end."

I don't think that that's a fair comparison. The narrative weight of Star Wars had to shift somewhere after the last, lingering embers of conflict between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant died down, and the idea that Palpatine may have been preparing the Empire to fend off the Vong invasion doesn't change the fact that his first and primary goal for the Empire was to cement Sith rule over the Galaxy forever (and in fact, the #PalpatineDidNothingWrong idea was used as an in-universe plot-point for Imperial die-hards to harp on, only to be quickly dismissed by Han Solo).

The better way to put it would be that Palpatine was doing the right thing for preparing against the Vong, but he did it with all the wrong methods and reasons. (ie. slavery, murder, genocide) It also makes the Jedi look good for defeating the Vong without having to resort to Palpatine's extreme methods.

If anything, I'd say that KOTOR/TOR are much worse about "shifting the climax" because of how Palpatine is diminished by the introduction of Vitiate/Valkorion.

Er, no. Even in Dark Empire, where Palpatine was at his strongest, when he tries to command the spirits of the Ancient Sith to heal his broken clone body after it was ravaged by a virus, their response was "LOL NO, GO FUCK YOURSELF" before showing him Baby Anakin Solo so that he'd go on a suicide mission to Onderon where he gets killed by Han Solo and some Jedi survivor of Order 66. So it makes sense to introduce guys like Vitiate who can snap Sidious in half, especially when in the one comic book where Palpatine was at his strongest, the Ancient Sith saw him as a dilettante who lost his power within mere decades while they have ruled for centuries in their time. Among the people of the New Republic/Galactic Alliance who have long since forgotten the history of the Ancient Sith, Palpatine was the baddest mofo amongst the Sith, but from the POV of the Ancient Sith Lords, he's a wannabe who can never measure up to their power, since he was toppled in mere decades.

 

[Adamska]

-snip-

TBH, you recently tried to deny and doublethink away the fact that Traviss liked her men having fun in a gay bathhouse and who flirts quite often with gay couples. All while rejecting all non-human mando designs for specifically one in shape bounty hunter man. A bit on the closeted side I'd say.

This would've been the part I stopped taking you seriously, but that was a long time ago when you dismissed one of the main lore writers for another series. I'm actually more baffled because of that now given the doublethinking away of the homoeroticism tbh.

It's also telling that you seriously hate Ron Moore as a writer rather than Braga of time-parodox obssession fame too. Braga, for all his efforts in the franchise, was guiltier of writing shit scripts than Moore, given he most supported those bottle ship episodes where causality loops were a thing. I'd almost suspect you hate Moore because he too focuses on a warrior race, but because they don't have the Boba Fett armor and honestly are more often known in geek culture that's unnacceptable.

Because holy shit you can thank Moore for actually some of the best episodes in DS9 and if you liked Worf as a character, thank him for expanding on his relations with Klingon culture.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

TBH, you recently tried to deny and doublethink away the fact that Traviss liked her men having fun in a gay bathhouse and who flirts quite often with gay couples. All while rejecting all non-human mando designs for specifically one in shape bounty hunter man. A bit on the closeted side I'd say.

This would've been the part I stopped taking you seriously, but that was a long time ago when you dismissed one of the main lore writers for another series. I'm actually more baffled because of that now given the doublethinking away of the homoeroticism tbh.

Traviss was big on LGBT in Star Wars. It's not like KOTOR where Juhani's lesbianism was something that was off the beaten path, Traviss openly wrote her Mandos are OK with man-on-man love.

It's also telling that you seriously hate Ron Moore as a writer rather than Braga of time-parodox obssession fame too. Braga, for all his efforts in the franchise, was guiltier of writing shit scripts than Moore, given he most supported those bottle ship episodes where causality loops were a thing. I'd almost suspect you hate Moore because he too focuses on a warrior race, but because they don't have the Boba Fett armor and honestly are more often known in geek culture that's unnacceptable.

Klingon is practically the Latin of geekdom, is it not? I don't think Mando'a got that far outside of being used for songs in the Republic Commando game.

Because holy shit you can thank Moore for actually some of the best episodes in DS9 and if you liked Worf as a character, thank him for expanding on his relations with Klingon culture.

DS9 salvaged Trek from being a tunnel-vision series by subverting some of Roddenberry's single-minded anti-capitalism, and Worf is one of latter-era Trek's most beloved characters.

 

[jspit2.0]

TBH, you recently tried to deny and doublethink away the fact that Traviss liked her men having fun in a gay bathhouse and who flirts quite often with gay couples. All while rejecting all non-human mando designs for specifically one in shape bounty hunter man. A bit on the closeted side I'd say.

This would've been the part I stopped taking you seriously, but that was a long time ago when you dismissed one of the main lore writers for another series. I'm actually more baffled because of that now given the doublethinking away of the homoeroticism tbh.

It's also telling that you seriously hate Ron Moore as a writer rather than Braga of time-parodox obssession fame too. Braga, for all his efforts in the franchise, was guiltier of writing shit scripts than Moore, given he most supported those bottle ship episodes where causality loops were a thing. I'd almost suspect you hate Moore because he too focuses on a warrior race, but because they don't have the Boba Fett armor and honestly are more often known in geek culture that's unnacceptable.

Because holy shit you can thank Moore for actually some of the best episodes in DS9 and if you liked Worf as a character, thank him for expanding on his relations with Klingon culture.

Traviss was big on LGBT in Star Wars. It's not like KOTOR where Juhani's lesbianism was something that was off the beaten path, Traviss openly wrote her Mandos are OK with man-on-man love.


Klingon is practically the Latin of geekdom, is it not? I don't think Mando'a got that far outside of being used for songs in the Republic Commando game.


DS9 salvaged Trek from being a tunnel-vision series by subverting some of Roddenberry's single-minded anti-capitalism, and Worf is one of latter-era Trek's most beloved characters.

Would that your words could pierce his safe space.

Not at all SJWish to block people because their words 'twigger you.'.

 

[Adamska]

Would that your words could pierce his safe space.

Not at all SJWish to block people because their words 'twigger you.'.

No, some get mad because they don't like thinking about and reflecting on their suppressed desire for Boba to disintegrate their pants and take them roughly on carbonite while growling in the ear with an accent.

 

[Creep3r]

TBH, you recently tried to deny and doublethink away the fact that Traviss liked her men having fun in a gay bathhouse and who flirts quite often with gay couples. All while rejecting all non-human mando designs for specifically one in shape bounty hunter man. A bit on the closeted side I'd say.

This would've been the part I stopped taking you seriously, but that was a long time ago when you dismissed one of the main lore writers for another series. I'm actually more baffled because of that now given the doublethinking away of the homoeroticism tbh.

It's also telling that you seriously hate Ron Moore as a writer rather than Braga of time-parodox obssession fame too. Braga, for all his efforts in the franchise, was guiltier of writing shit scripts than Moore, given he most supported those bottle ship episodes where causality loops were a thing. I'd almost suspect you hate Moore because he too focuses on a warrior race, but because they don't have the Boba Fett armor and honestly are more often known in geek culture that's unnacceptable.

Because holy shit you can thank Moore for actually some of the best episodes in DS9 and if you liked Worf as a character, thank him for expanding on his relations with Klingon culture.

Amen. DS9 was honestly a fucking gem for me and had that adventurous feel and sense of wonder I love to see in scifi, much like with SW. And the acting... wow.

Also Dukat was fucking based.

 

[White Devil]

DS9 was the best Trek show next to TOS. Fucking fight me.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

No, some get mad because they don't like thinking about and reflecting on their suppressed desire for Boba to disintegrate their pants and take them roughly on carbonite while growling in the ear with an accent.

Boba Fett, at most, is a good side character. Some of the better stories with him have him being on the sidelines on main events like say, Force Unleashed II, where he stars in the comic adaptation of that game. Trying to turn him into a main character like in Legacy of the Force only ended with people calling bullshit on Vader's grand-daughter needing his help and putting up with his insults, when there's more than enough commando-types out in the Alliance who can offer the same crap he does, for less.

The most I would do if I were to make Boba Fett into a main character is pair him up in a story with Han Solo and make this buddy-cop routine of them being forced to work together and arguing like an old married couple for laughs.