Tabletop Community Watch

[Corn Flakes]

Yep. Had someone loosely attached to my social circle in the dying days of 40k 3rd ed who played nids.
Not a bad guy but an absolute WAAC maven with a 140 decibel voice that could strip paint at twenty paces.
Through creative rules interpretation in the 'nid codex he found a loophole that (he claimed) let his spore mines spawn more spore mines.
There were other players he'd pulled this on and gotten away with it.

He pulled the trick on me halfway through his first turn. I disagreed with his interpretation. He disagreed with mine.
So I reached over the table, shook his hand, and congratulated him on his win, then started packing up.
Much to the amusement of the onlookers, he literally started sputtering like his brain had shorted out.
He told me I wasn't allowed to quit and I told him that there was no rule in 40k that required me to play against him.

The peanut gallery, all of whom he'd tried this trick against (and weren't the kind to object to it), were less than sympathetic to his appeals to them that I was a poor sport.
Funnily enough, he stayed in the shadows at our games nights for a few months, watching us have fun until 4th ed came out.
Then he asked for a few games, stopped being a cheesey cunt, and started having fun himself.
God knows he had a lot more people accept his offers of games than he'd had previously.

To the best of my knowledge he still goes to games nights, isn't a WAAC rules lawyering dipshit any more, and is generally well liked.

There's always one of those.

In my case it was playing MtG Commander at the local game store. One particular asshole had this extremely cheesy Edgar Markov vampire tribal deck. It wasn't invincible, but it was extremely boring to play against because it was an extreme rushdown deck without easy counters. The Commander never actually hit the board, and since it was black and white it was loaded with removal. It was one of those decks that turned a fun, casual 4-player free-for-all into a 3v1 race to kill him before he built up too much momentum. So people just started refusing to play against him and he threw a huge fit about it. We all told him that his deck was not fun to play with, and that if he wanted to play Competitive EDH he should just sign up for it.

He left for a few weeks, then came back with a new deck. A Narset deck that... immediately turned a fun, casual 4-player free-for-all into a 3v1 race to kill him before he could cast eight spells for free and/or get infinite turns.

No redemption story for this asshole yet, unfortunately.

GW are a pack of turbocunts that have moved from flirting with SocJus to giving it a good fingerblasting behind the bike shed, but they know there are things that 99% of the fanbase simply cannot and will not ever forgive.

GW are beholden to public opinion like everybody else, and the screeching harpies demanding female smurfs are extremely loud, and most people don't care about the implications to canon or the setting itself. So there's a good chance it'll happen unless SocJus falls out of favor very quickly.

 

[Wallace]

 

[Hummingbird]

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So do Elves have different sets of genitals like Pie 'O Pah from Imajica? This whole gender thing is getting weird/pretentious, especially since a lot of the alternative ones are just slightly altered copies of other genders.

 

[ZMOT]

GW are beholden to public opinion like everybody else, and the screeching harpies demanding female smurfs are extremely loud, and most people don't care about the implications to canon or the setting itself. So there's a good chance it'll happen unless SocJus falls out of favor very quickly.

public opinion doesn't buy their plastic crack, and the people that do don't give a shit about that.

 

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public opinion doesn't buy their plastic crack, and the people that do don't give a shit about that.

Not only do the people who buy plastic crack not care about "representation" (tokenism), enough of the fanbase finds it openly offensive -- or at least, finds the pink haired fuckwits who keep pushing it to be insufferable -- that if GW caves, it'll be a suicide shot. I know it would be the end of my enjoyment of the hobby. I'd cash out on ebay and pick up Warmachine / Hordes or something instead, maybe wait for GW to fail as a business and the Warhammer IP to be picked up by like, Hasbro or something.

So do Elves have different sets of genitals like Pie 'O Pah from Imajica? This whole gender thing is getting weird/pretentious, especially since a lot of the alternative ones are just slightly altered copies of other genders.

Is this related to how they keep trying to change D&D elves to shapeshifting "nonbinary" "genderfluid" elfsluts?

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Not only do the people who buy plastic crack not care about "representation" (tokenism), enough of the fanbase finds it openly offensive -- or at least, finds the pink haired fuckwits who keep pushing it to be insufferable -- that if GW caves, it'll be a suicide shot. I know it would be the end of my enjoyment of the hobby. I'd cash out on ebay and pick up Warmachine / Hordes or something instead, maybe wait for GW to fail as a business and the Warhammer IP to be picked up by like, Hasbro or something.



Is this related to how they keep trying to change D&D elves to shapeshifting "nonbinary" "genderfluid" elfsluts?

Warmachine / Hordes is dead on its feet right now.

 

[Velvet Sedan]

It was only last year I picked up 40k again after not playing it for over a decade. But if something drove me out of the game I'd just keep playing Infinity.
Personally though I haven't ran into the usual -isms in my local groups. Just old bearded men wanting to play with toy soldiers and talk shit.

 

[Shakatherapy]

Warmachine / Hordes is dead on its feet right now.

Out of curiosity, what happened to Warmachine?

 

[iceteayo]

The problem is, anything other than glowing tongue jobs about how amazing female space marines are would just be used as ammo as to why we not only needed female space marines, it's high time some of the characters come out as gay or trans, and the fascism elements of the game need to go away because it's poisoning the minds of the youth, and do we really need all this "war" and "combat" in this hobby?

I.e., it's not, nor ever has been, about making the hobby better or more inclusive. It's about forcing the change because we don't want the change. That's what a conquering force does to a conquered people, after all.

Keep in mind and Stormcast Eternals(sigmarines) can be female and guess what they want? Trans Stormcasts since they say reforging turns you into you “true self”. We recently had a shit storm where a paint job was so bad a PR intern had to refer to special Stormcast model as “they” and troons celebrated....for an hour until the model was officially a “he” since they edited the article.

 

[Scolopendra Dramatica]

Keep in mind and Stormcast Eternals(sigmarines) can be female and guess what they want? Trans Stormcasts since they say reforging turns you into you “true self”. We recently had a shit storm where a paint job was so bad a PR intern had to refer to special Stormcast model as “they” and troons celebrated....for an hour until the model was officially a “he” since they edited the article.

Oh god, we're not talking about an army in those stupid, paste-it-on-everything flag colours are we?

Please, tell me they did it with nail varnish rather than actual paint cos of pretty trans princess army! XD

AHH it's too funny an image, almost makes me wanna turn some of my old dark elder into animu troon princesses, at least they've got flesh artistry and a love of suffering built into the culture. And talk about bringing true horror to the battlefield!

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Out of curiosity, what happened to Warmachine?

Extremely poor decisions by privateer press combined with poor stock availability and 3rd edition sinking like a brick.
And combined with the edgy boi attitude they how it was bound to happen.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Extremely poor decisions by privateer press combined with poor stock availability and 3rd edition sinking like a brick.
And combined with the edgy boi attitude they how it was bound to happen.
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Wow, that's some Daikatana-tier marketing. Jesus fuck.

 

[Velvet Sedan]

Out of curiosity, what happened to Warmachine?

Moving into mk3 rules they decided to have community playtesting via CID articles. Basically made it so every other week your army might drastically change and some armies barely saw any updates, or at least very needed ones were overlooked.
Toss in the shit-headery of Jason Soles telling the players they're playing the game wrong and Matt Wilson (the owner of Privateer Press) driving out all the talent.
In game it became more about theme lists and the huge amounts of free stuff they gave invalidating the option to play with regular lists.

There's likely other factors, but these were the ones that I was aware of and drove me out. I played Skorne, a perpetual underdog army, and when Soles said "no one in studio ever tested them for the start of mk3" I was an inch from quitting right then. The poor CIDs that followed convinced me.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Is this related to how they keep trying to change D&D elves to shapeshifting "nonbinary" "genderfluid" elfsluts?E

Elves are the first port of call for players/gm's pathetic fetishes being indulged in public so yes.

Frankly they should just run Wraeththu and be done with it.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Not only do the people who buy plastic crack not care about "representation" (tokenism), enough of the fanbase finds it openly offensive -- or at least, finds the pink haired fuckwits who keep pushing it to be insufferable -- that if GW caves, it'll be a suicide shot. I know it would be the end of my enjoyment of the hobby. I'd cash out on ebay and pick up Warmachine / Hordes or something instead, maybe wait for GW to fail as a business and the Warhammer IP to be picked up by like, Hasbro or something.

Just give up already. 40K is shit, and this is coming from someone that was a first-day buyer when Rogue Trader first came out.
Bolt Action is where it's at for beer and pretzels wardollies right now.

 

[knightlautrec]

I have heard zero good arguments for why we should have female space marines beyond muh representation mindless spewing. Especially when you counter with 'We have Sisters of Battle so...'

And the problem is that the bulk of 40k don't want it but there is a small spineless lefty handful who listen to screeching retards and start pushing the SJW narrative in their LGS because they're simpletons who can't think for themselves. (Same as 'whites bad blm good' white liberals) and funnily enough when I've voiced my anti female space marine sentiments to these regurgitating idiots, I've gotten a lot of 'poor female hating woman, you know not what is good for you, you don't speak for all women blah blah blah' replies from men. Male feminists are basically all the same assholes at this point.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

The fact that the retard brigade is still sniveling about 'muh female spess mehreens' when Sisters got a big push for 9E (seriously, a CGI trailer featuring Sisters + Ultrasmurfs against the Necrons) should tell you a great deal about the motivations of said retards.

It's not about 'representation'. It's about how they can best foul the pool so no one will play in it any more.

 

[Corn Flakes]

In my experience, the 'tards screeching for female Space Marines come in two varieties, with a lot of overlap between them:

The first is brainless "progressives", who see any group they see as exclusively "oppressive" and try to break it up. If the Salamanders weren't a thing, and if they weren't basically the most "nice guy" Chapter (which is not a high bar to clear, to be fair), you can be 100% certain these same people would be screeching about the game needing "black marines" instead. I have actually seen these same assholes complaining that there are no black Eldar, and they're usually the ones claiming the Adeptus Mechanicus are full of genderspecials (as opposed to ditching the concept of gender altogether).

The second is spoiled brats, pure and simply. They're the kind of idiot who, as a kid, threw a huge fit in the middle of the supermarket because they wanted chocolate-flavored Froot Loops and their mothers told them they couldn't have them because chocolate-flavored Froot Loops didn't exist. They just want something that doesn't exist, for no reason other than to have it. Or, more specifically, to get someone they see as being more powerful than they are bending the knee and catering to their desires.

 

[iceteayo]

Just give up already. 40K is shit, and this is coming from someone that was a first-day buyer when Rogue Trader first came out.
Bolt Action is where it's at for beer and pretzels wardollies right now.

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Idk if this is allowed because this about historical WWII wargames and not specifically Warhammer, but I have a Bolt Action related hang...

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[Flaming Insignias]

If the Salamanders weren't a thing, and if they weren't basically the most "nice guy" Chapter (which is not a high bar to clear, to be fair), you can be 100% certain these same people would be screeching about the game needing "black marines" instead.

Two things:
First, I absolutely love the Salamanders as a chapter, partially due to the charm of having the demonic-looking pyromaniacs being one of the most dedicated to protecting civvies.
Second, there is actually an entire chapter of subsaharan black marines: the Celestial Lions, a Fist successor. They’re not the most prominent, but they are bros with the Space Wolves, and the charm of 40k is often picking some of the more obscure chapters and regiments or making your own. After all, who had heard of the Blood Ravens before Dawn of War?