Worst RPG members ever

Its rare for armour knights to do well in any FE. Hell, even Dedue cant keep up with the mage spam
The only armor knight I've ever had stand out was a Donnel fathered Kjelle who I gave boots. After I had her classed out correctly, I don't think she ever took a single point of damage and with Brady as her backup her luck was high enough that Armsthift kept her Gradivus from ever losing a single durability point. I'd just roll her into range of as much as possible and let her stomp everything in the enemy phase.

But Awakening is all about the Eugenics Program.
 
A third? That's being generous. You could snip out 25 or 30 of those awful characters and it would improve the game immensely.

That said, Guile is still the worst. When I played the game for the first time, I was almost completely blind. I got up to him and said 'holy shit it's MAGUS hell yes', and kept him as a mainstay for most of the game. Got to the end and said 'wait, Magus doesn't get anything special? I must have missed something' and looked up a guide and nope, didn't miss anything. As far as Chrono Cross is concerned, Guile is just some random magician who looks like Magus in a fruity suit with a funny mask. Fuck off forever, Guile. I should have gone with Pierre.
Guile was supposed to be Magus but they realized everyone would use Serge, Glenn, and Guile/Magus and no one else if they did it.
 
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Default Robin is almost an Aryan superman/Princess, but if you've gone Male Robin, then your ideal pairing is with the Loli Dragon. I think the comparison breaks down at that point, although it does make a rather effective Nah.
My Robin hooked up with the Greedy Jew Thief/Merchant gal so he definitely wasn't Aryan enough.
 
My Robin hooked up with the Greedy Jew Thief/Merchant gal so he definitely wasn't Aryan enough.
Indeed, Fire Emblem breeding is about Class Access and Stat Growth and the Annas are a poor choice. And there's always the question of which Anna you're actually getting or if the Annas are sharing you in some bizarre fashion.

Tharja's a great pick too, Robin!Noire is vaguely terrifying. Of course the Japs would make your character's Yandere Stalker one of his best picks.
 
Indeed, Fire Emblem breeding is about Class Access and Stat Growth and the Annas are a poor choice. And there's always the question of which Anna you're actually getting or if the Annas are sharing you in some bizarre fashion.

Tharja's a great pick too, Robin!Noire is vaguely terrifying. Of course the Japs would make your character's Yandere Stalker one of his best picks.
I prefer Noire’s father to be Gregor just for his support conversation calling Tharja “a horrible night to have a curse.”
 
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I prefer Noire’s father to be Gregor just for his support conversation calling Tharja “a horrible night to have a curse.”
I like Gaius, just for his absolutely no-fucks-given attitude towards her, also it makes Noire look like Christmas in her default classes. Gregor does have a way with words though, but I put him with Miriel because maximum Nos tank Laurent.
 
Don't know if anyone played any of the Xenosaga games, but I found Jr. to be a whiny, egotistical brat - despite him actually being an adult in a twelve year old's body. It gets worse when in later installments, he gets into a relationship with an AI who looks and acts like a twelve year old girl. But I guess it's not a big deal because it's Friedrich Nietzsche's future?
I have. Actually like it more than Xenogears. I couldn't stand Momo as far as party members go. Don't really like magical girls, but she's a MacGuffin so she has to be heavily featured in that subplot for two games. I'm ambivalent to Jr even though I can't argue with your description.
 
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I've never used G0-T0 in any of my KOTOR2 playthroughs.

In Breath of Fire 3, everyone online who talks about the game is like "Peco and Momo are super OP and meta" but Peco is a fucking onion with feet and no lines of dialog, and Momo is a fat bunnygirl nerd. Rei the Weretiger and Garr the Dragonslayer are super badass, so I always use them, even though they're considered the worst.

I never use Lucca/Marle in Chrono Trigger except for the parts where you have to use them.
 
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Imagine having a party member that can only defend.

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Guile was supposed to be Magus but they realized everyone would use Serge, Glenn, and Guile/Magus and no one else if they did it.

The reason was a lot different from that. They realized that if they made him magus in disguise, they would probably have to give is an obscenely large amount of extra dialogue(and for a few NPCs, give them extra dialogue for being there in front of them) if he was in your party at many important parts of the story, so they axed it as it was too much work for one character out of 45 that was optional to get to begin with. His design is based on Magil, the masked magician from Radical Dreamers, the obscure Japan-only sequel to Chrono Trigger that Chrono Cross replaced in the continuity, who was(for the canon route at least), actually Magus in disguise.
 
Pillars of Eternity's companions are generally OK, though there's a couple of exceptions:

-Grieving Mother. She's so, like, deep? And mysterious? And annoying? And fucking useless in a fight?
-Kana. I had to look up his name because I'd erased it from my mind - the useless chanter with the pointy teeth. He's a Magical Negro stereotype, all noble savage wisdom and shit, and the PC's dialogue choices with him all add up to "tell us all about your noble yet wild culture, non-specifically ethnic man who I can learn so much from." Ugh. And as for how good he is mechanically, I would sooner go into battle armed with Helen Keller.

GM suffers from Chris Avellone writing a character and no one being there to reel him in. A shame since Durance is like the best character in the entire series.

I got more of a "Happy Hawaiian/Polynesian" vibe from Kana. I gave him a unique gun and used him as a summoner. Seemed alright in that role.
 
I take "worst character ever" as a challenge. Anyone can take the best characters and win the game, I choose to pick the worst party possible and still win.

I've found that most bad characters fall into certain categories:

I think these categories are pretty good, though I would add a fifth -

* Poorly characterised in-setting. These characters may be OK mechanically, but are so irritating or uninteresting from a roleplaying perspective that taking them with you detracts from your enjoyment of the game. Or perhaps the plot itself ruins them, such as by unavoidably killing them off mid-game without warning, making all the XP and sometimes even the gear you gave them disappear, of you can't recruit them until too late in the game when your party is already settled. Examples: Sera (DA:I), Jan (BG2). Examples of plot-ruined characters: Yoshimo (BG2), Logain (DA:O) Fawkes (FO3) or Aeris (FFVII).

As for the others, I've probably played Baldur's Gate 2 the most of any RPG I've owned, and I think there's at least one of each of these:

* Poorly optimised. These characters start out built wrong, and you have to either respec them (if allowed) or spend a long time leveling them correctly while they suck shit. Examples: Mission Vao, Merrill, Jerrick.

BG2 has several of these, but the worst is Jaheira. Fighter-Druid is a fucking useless combination in BG2. Druids suck in general in 2e anyway, but a F-D has the weapon and armour restrictions of a druid - no metal weapons (except scimitars for some weird reason known only to Gary Gygax), no metal armour, making her useless in melee. She can only use a sling at range, which is the weakest ranged weapon (doing 1d4 damage instead of 1d6 or more for everything else), and her spellcasting ability is unimpressive. I personally find her dour, charmless and generally annoying to be around anyway, but some people like her character.

* Complex abilities. Some characters have minigames associated with them or other mechanics that you have to spend a lot of time developing. Others have very situational abilities that are awesome but require outside research or hours of trial-and-error to find out. Examples: Gau, pretty much any blue mage in a Final Fantasy game, Cait Sith.

Edwin is annoying because of the hoops you have to go through to recruit him, which involves taking a certain path in the main game that (imo) is less fun than the alternatives. He kicks ass once you get him though. Any thief is at best situationally useful in BG2 due to the lack of stealth opportunities. You only need them for lockpicking and trap disarming. Jan, Nalia or even Imoen (if you get her the right gear) can cover those needs without needing a single-class thief, at least in the base game. That makes Yoshimo useless, his trap-setting ability is situational at best, and he takes up a party slot you could use for someone better. And of course he's also plot-ruined due to dropping dead half way through.

* Overshadowed by someone else. Steiner is a straightforward character. He's a brick, but he's the best at being a brick. The problem is, he overshadows Freya and Amarant who also hit things for a living. Note that many of these characters do have things they do well, but most people dismiss them for their more famous colleagues. Examples: Many ff5 jobs, Eiko, Jean, Edge.

Minc and Valygar - holy shit rangers sucked in 2e. All Minsc's abilities are done better by other characters. Want to hit things with a sword for great justice? Take Keldorn. Want a bezerker? Take Korgan, his bezerking ability is much better, he'd tougher and he hits harder. Want a ranged fighter? Take Mazzy. Minc serves no purpose. Valygar sucks too, his kit is rubbish, and if you want a melee fighter to take down wizards, again Keldorn is better.

* Chrono Cross Syndrome. These character are legitimately bad. Edward before the remakes (FFDS edward is my favorite version), DK Cecil before the renakes, Harley, most Chrono Cross characters (hence the name).

I'm not sure what you mean by this as I've not played Chrono Cross. But Aerie is legit bad. She is mechanically useless and incredibly annoying.

If anyone wants to give BG2 a go (I would recommend it), I'd say take the following party if you want to powergame your way through:

PC - take a human Kensai and multi-class them to a mage at level 9. Take 5 pips in either axes or longswords and everything else in 2-weapon fighting. When you reach Athkatla during the tutorial dungeon, do Aerie's stupid circus quest to get the Ring of Human Influence for 18 charisma (meaning you can dump-stat charisma, replacing it with the Blade of Roses later on which does the same thing). Then dismiss your entire party, go to the scroll store at the top of the promenade, and learn every spell you can (save any scrolls you get up to this point). Your character will get all the XP from reading the scrolls to themselves and level up quickly. Once you hit Mage level 10, (which will not take long with 2e's weird XP system), you'll get your Kensai powers back. This will make you a potent mage with a much better than normal AC and the ability to slice someone in half in melee too. Seek out and learn Tenser's Transformation, which takes this build from OP to utterly broken, changing you from a powerful mage (mages are brutally overpowered in 2e anyway) to an unstoppable, basically unkillable melee death machine depending on what you need.

Keldorn - Keldorn is hilariously OP. His dispel magic ability is cast at twice his character level, meaning that by the end of the base game (let alone the expansion) he can cast it at the level of basically a deity, meaning that you never need worry about mages ever again. He can also wield Carsomyr, the best weapon in the game, which as well as being a +5 Holy Avenger, also casts dispel magic every time it hits someone.

Anomen - Anomen has a true powergamer's build. His fighter levels give him way more HP and DPS than any cleric, meaning he's a ridiculous tank and the only divine spellcaster you'll need. Take the "good" path in his personal quest and you'll raise his wisdom and, more importantly, shut him up. Give him the biggest shield you can find and The Flail of Ages (later Crom Faeyr if you can get hold of it). If you kit him out with the Amulet of Negative Plane Protection and the Mace of Disruption he'll mince his way through the hordes of vampires you fight in mid-game, solo. If you're playing Core Rules difficulty or above you'll need to find a way to raise his wisdom to cast 7th level spells - the Machine of Lum the Mad is probably the easiest way to do this.

Nalia - she's a wizard. You need wizards. But importantly, she's also a decent thief - good enough to get through the base game without any other thieves in the party in terms of lockpicking and trap detection.

Imoen - she's also a wizard. More wizards = moar dakka. She's a thief too, but not as good as Nalia. To use her as the party thief you'll need to get her the Ring of Danger Sense and the Ring of Lockpicks, and those aren't easy to get. So use Nalia, get her to sit back and nuke people with Cloudkills and Fireballs.

6th slot I usually reserve for characters you have to take with you for their quests (Cernd, Haer'dalis, Valygar, Korgan), and do those quests before I go to Spellhold. After that, take Mazzy or Jan.

Mazzy - People underestimate just how dangerous Mazzy is if you kit her out right. 5 pips in short bow is an odd choice, but there are some amazing items that synergise with it. Early on, give her the Tuigan bow (for +1 attack per round) and the Quiver of Plenty +1. This gives her a ridiculous number of attacks with infinite ammo. Later on, get her the Short Bow of Gesen and watch enemies drop like flies. Later when she gets her HLEs, give her improved whirlwind attack for 10 attacks per round. This turns her into an unstoppable machine gun of electric death.

Jan - Yet another wizard. You can't have too many wizards in 2e. He's also a better thief than Imoen or Nalia so if you're more into sneaking around he might be a good pick, either in place of Mazzy or one of the other mages.

Assuming you take Jan rather than Mazzy, this party effectively gives you:

4 mages
1 cleric
3 melee fighters
3 thieves

All with just 6 characters. Warning: this party is so broken that the game will have very little challenge.
 
Morrigan from Dragon Age Origins.

She is a bitch and her specialization is fucking lame.
It’s not even a matter of disagreement of philosophy; she’s just a misanthropic psychopath who hates anything that breathes. Say what you want about Sten, that guy at least has a duty and belief about being a warrior.

Also apparently BioWare thought making morrigan a ranger pet who takes up a slot in your party was apparently a good idea because that’s literally all shapeshifting is.
 
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