I was wondering how RPC was taking this.
No I'm pretty sure it's confirmed Caro sent nudes to multiple RPC admins, but CFO had already given her admin at the time. I think she did it just for attention. Caro appears to be a serial liar, if nothing else, so it's extremely hard to confirm what exactly her intentions where
Also I don't know if this is already known, but yeah pixelatedharmony is 100% Roget. Earlier today they were sending the RPC admins Roget written articles and saying they could transfer them to their site to piss off the SCP leadership or whatever. Dunno if this was some secret where they'll run off and stop spilling logs if its known, but yeah.The following is taken from #site67, the staff chat. It shows an example of the staff explicitly evaluating political opinion and affiliation in regards to the possible promotion of a site member.
<Modern_Erasmus> MobileMagnus: https://web.archive.org/web/20180729040912/http://ranting-reverend.wikidot.com/
<MobileMagnus> I dunno.
<MrAnakinSpecter> "Ever since I was seventeen" no way this kid is older than seventeen
"However, my first paycheck was spent on gas for my car, insurance, and my first earned purchase2 — a brown duster and a cowboy hat, both of which I still have and use."
is this kid for real holy shit
> posted on Saturday: 10 March, 2018
<Modern_Erasmus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwPxnnaek84 here's a video of his that was also quite concerning for me
[The guy's video is him saying that he doesn't want to discuss identity politics with people on facebook anymore because no one has the capacity to have a discourse, that they only want validation of their feelings. He says he doesn't care if his political opinions offend someone because facts>feelings. An example is how there are biological differences between men and women. Sounds like a lowkey SCP critique, no wonder. He isn't wrong. Cringy. But not wrong.]
<TombAFK> I'm not watching a video rn but I want to point out the date on these things
<MrAnakinSpecter> is he wearing his trenchcoat and cowboy hat
<TombAFK> Less than a year ago, although not by much
<MrAnakinSpecter> yeah 2018 is too close to the present for me to be comfortable with these things
<TombAFK> Point is, while people can change, it generally takes a while
<MrAnakinSpecter> "If there were a gun to my head on the matter, though, I'd have to identify as a centrist." i refuse to believe this isn't intentionally a stereotype thing christ
<MobileMagnus> So, nothing here is like....
<MobileMagnus> Molotov in the window.
<MobileMagnus> He's just a pretentious most likely white dude.
<TombAFK> oh, we're well over quota on those
<Modern_Erasmus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI35RdClDyw here's another video from december btw
<Modern_Erasmus> I don't think he's a bigot or anything, but he's remarkably shortsighted when it comes to privelege. This vid is basically a long rant about how he doesn't like identity politics and he's had it hard for being a radical centrist. And that privilege shouldn't matter, internal stuff should matter, etc
02:38:56: <Ard> RADICAL CENTRISM
02:39:21: <MrAnakinSpecter> tubular centrism
02:39:26: <MrAnakinSpecter> bodacious centrism
02:39:34: <rumetzen> >privilege shouldn't matter
02:39:37: <rumetzen> hey, we agree!
Here's another instance, from pixelatedharmony's PMs themselves, of site staff intentionally promoting select political views (sorry if this has already been shared)... also seems like a pre-Yurt recruitment pitch:
2019-06-07
<Roget> I'm also trying to get my reform agenda started up again, I had a nice chat with moose and xe inspired me to try and take a page out of Troy's book to get stuff done here
<TSATPWTCOTTTADC> Ooh. Nice. I'm only aware of your various idea for changing site navigation, some of which have been implemented already.
<TSATPWTCOTTTADC> What else do you want to reform?
<Roget> I want to change site navigation, I want to make collaborative pages a bigger part of the site, I want to make some individual staff positions and promote more women and lgbt people to mod
<Roget> I want us to update our css, and maybe even go off with the russians new site
<TSATPWTCOTTTADC> I've been pretty happy with UraniumEmpire's quick recent acclimatization to IO work and decisive actions on the subreddit. She's also shown good initiative as CO staff.
<Roget> UraniumEmpire is one of the people on my list
<Roget> I generally want to try to bring a new generation of staff in, I feel like our roster, especially at Mod, has been stagnant for awhile
There are likely several, several more instances of this in these logs.
One of the links that Modern_Erasmus shares is the answer sheet to a class of Junior staffers looking at possible promotion. They answer questions, are asked if it is ok for staff to see them, I'm guessing not expecting them to just shit on them (guess again). This document represents a certain class being considered around Feb 2019. Out of 10 applicants, 6 are members identified by @pixelatedharmony as members of the covert influencer group, Yurt. Not sure that means anything, just something I noticed. Not saying this was a coordinated thing, but hey, the Yurt is there, it would appear. And promotions are recommendations from higher up staff...
(A Google doc, I am not going to log in here, so just navigate around the darkened background and the notice, you aren't missing much.)
Some of the answers here are worth highlighting; some hilarious, some enlightening:
Why do you want to become staff?
"I felt like I should give back to the community." []
"Well... there's two different states of everything, consumer and creator..." [Nope, next]
What do you think you can bring to the staff team?
"I spent a few years of my life being a community organizer for my local fighting game community. If you are unfamiliar, those people tend to be rather aggressive, but I never once lost my cool when dealing with them as a Tournament Organizer."
"softness and understanding"
"My least favorite phrase? 'That probably won't work.'"
What are your greatest weaknesses?
"I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt more often than not, I suppose." - GabrielJade (didn't want to list his uncontrollable pedophilia)
"I over empathize. A lot. I'm a big softie at heart and I try to see the best in people no matter what the situation" - Uncle Nicolini, who has been tagged as a sex pest creep ITT
"That's an easy one and I'm not going to sugar coat it. I mentioned above that "I like to see things getting done."
What do you think are the best qualities of a good staff member, or are qualities we look for in staff members?
"An ability to think of how things will affect the core community in the long run is probably important. Without the long view it's easy to do lots of work that ends up... making things in the future more complicated than they should be." [I just thought this prophecy here was saturated in the irony of current events.]
What do you see as the biggest issue within the community at this time?
"Issues arising from that one knockoff site that cropped up following the June drama."
"Its toxicity" (!... I don't think this person got promooted!)
"The culture of upvotes that the site has bred. There's nothing wrong with being successful, but being discredited for not having as many upvotes as Author X is disheartening to new authors and it makes them feel irrelevant. We are a collaborative writing site and it should really feel more like one around here." -Uncle Nicolini [now yer talkin' my language!... sad how quickly that sentiment seems to fade at the altitudes of the ruling class... like the oxygen levels]
"Satellite members of the community who have dramatically different views than core members. This has faded a lot since June, but there's still been activity there."
"I feel that this community in general can be a little too oppressive in its moderation."
What do you see as the biggest issue in staff at this time?
"A sense of mistrust within the community and staff."
"A tendency to invoke staff privileges"
"I think the handling of the [Psyantroos] case was handled somewhat poorly...
Later: The situation is something I know had a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes and I shoudln't make judgements about it from my position." ("Taylor: Asked me to change their answer to the ‘problems within staff’ question - I told them I could not, but could record their caveat. It is recorded underneath their original answer, starting with ‘Later:’")
It is sad to see, e.g. UncleNicolini, a bright and promising author who has a pretty accurate finger on the pulse of the site, and then step into the staff to be digested and become part of the greater digestive tissue. You guys forgot where you came from.
On that note, I have not been able to corroborate pixelatedharmony's claim about DrMagnus mentioning the excess funds from the gofundme to be a slush for Project Foundation. (Yet?) But maybe 10% of the potentially relevant dialogue has been carefully combed through. I also was unable to find any meaningful material on mlister + the foreknowledge of SadXaio/SaX as a pedo. Although, there are plenty of instances of staff referring to it in hushed terms, like "what a way to go" and "glad he's gone now" and "I have a cousin who is about 13, I would hurt anyone who touched her wrong". Stuff like that, but no smoking guns.
I did find this:
I was about to edit my message but I'll just put it here: Caro is, in general, just a very weird and enigmatic individual. No one, not roget, not her friends, not the RPC admins knows what was going through their head when they were head admin at RPC. It's just as likely the Tylenol suicide incident was some bizarre lie copout so they'd have an excuse to leave before she was under too much of a spotlight and these logs started to leak out.
Personally, I think if there's a CC license allowing it, you shouldn't allow one contributor to wreck a project by just simply revoking what is essentially an irrevocable license.
No, the RPC star rating system is very bad. As it turns out, the more options + community hugbox results in most people giving anything above 5th grade level 3 stars, usually for reasons like "Well, its filled with incoherent grammar mistakes and borderline rambling paragraphs... but, I like the concept and effort! 3 stars"
They aren't removing Rogets articles because that would be the end of SCP. Roget is like fishmonger on steroids, he has written so many articles that its difficult to wrap my head around it. I think something like 10% of the total content on the site was written by him?
Just use reverse image search, if they're low res it probably means she copied them from a repository on the internet
Lmao Roget is sort of like the me of SCP, a ludicrously prolific asshole. Imagine if I went full retard and demanded all my posts be deleted. They're mostly absolute shit. Still, imagine the retardation that would erupt. I would never, ever do that. But imagine the hilarity!
I wrote 160 SCPs and a little under a hundred tales and a handful of other pages. It was 2% back in the Series II days and people just never stopped saying it.
Reminds me that I needed to post proof for something I talked about a long time ago in an old post. It's old news but now that you mention it....
ToS said:
I do have lots of logs of the SCP IRC rpg games sax bright and others participated in
For once, I agree completely with Magnus.
I wouldn't call being a woman/queer a political view, which is all this seems to be, though I think promoting minorities for the sake of promoting minorities rather than because they're valuable contributors is dumb.
There's probably some valuable stuff in there, but I don't really know where to start now that I'm out of specific names, and a lot of it seems too old to be worth talking about. A bunch of these PM logs are of people who disappeared off the face of the site years ago, so I'm not sure how much I could get from those except dead drama.
No it wouldn't. 300 pages is a lot, and some of those are quite good and have other articles written based on them, but there's something like 10000 articles now, so the community could absolutely recover and fill in the gaps.
Outside of a few posts from something like half a year ago, Nico has thus far avoided discussion on here by virtue of being surrounded by people who are much more overtly shitty, but I'm not surprised that he's been doing stuff like this in the background. He always seemed unstable from what I remember of him.
Funnily enough, this almost reads like an SCP article. Nothing major seems to have happened with Bright since his "retirement", so this is probably still a fairly accurate summary of why he was a problem.
I haven't seen anything more exploitative and disgusting... Like ever. The fucking disrespect for somebody else's mental health and the entire clusterfuck surrounding them to make a shitty point... And it's just, not even good.
It's astounding that it got past deletion. Not only is it a morally wrong article, but it's also just plain shitty, fake emotional shlock.
