TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

It’s hard to say what Rindsay’s future is. It’s 2021 and the crazy has been cranked up to 11. If everywhere she goes will be met with social justice buttrage then she’s not going to last long. If people are going to get angry that a hardcore racist like gets uncanceled due to whiteness then they’re not going to stick their necks out for a white girl.

Graphtreon shows she’s lost about 400 subscribers, which is low but her audience is soy-enriched, testosterone-free males who will stick by her until they get shamed into unsubscribing.

I actually think she’s likely to get canceled. She will come back but the knives are out and blood has been drawn. Her envious friends-turned-haters are going to keep attacking until she fucks off for good. As I said above, nobody is going to stick their necks out for a white girl like Lindsay in 2021.
If she's smart, she'll use the opportunity to make a point of her Native American ancestry. Then, if anyone tries to cancel her on the basis that she's a "privileged white girl", she can respond in kind by playing the victim herself and going on some spiel about the "erasure" of her voice as an indigenous person. If any of her critics try to object, she can simply double down and accuse them of being complicit.

This would probably be Lindsay's best option, since social justice politics is ultimately all about victimhood, and provided that you're savvy enough to know how to get away with it convincingly, playing the victim in front of these people is like kryptonite to them.
 
If she's smart, she'll use the opportunity to make a point of her Native American ancestry. Then, if anyone tries to cancel her on the basis that she's a "privileged white girl", she can respond in kind by playing the victim herself and going on some spiel about the "erasure" of her voice as an indigenous person. If any of her critics try to object, she can simply double down and accuse them of being complicit.

This would probably be Lindsay's best option, since social justice politics is ultimately all about victimhood, and provided that you're savvy enough to know how to get away with it convincingly, playing the victim in front of these people is like kryptonite to them.
Lindsay is as Native American as Elizabeth Warren.

She'll probably get by on it by her fellow Twitter white, woke crowd who don't actually care what ethnic minorities think despite saying "listen to voices of x"

But actual natives would tell her to fuck off because she's done nothing for them in terms of rights advocacy or practice their customs in her YouTube videos. That and she'll probably fail their blood purity tests as to who counts as a member of their tribe.
 
But actual natives would tell her to fuck off because she's done nothing for them in terms of rights advocacy or practice their customs in her YouTube videos. That and she'll probably fail their blood purity tests as to who counts as a member of their tribe.

In my husband's experience, blood purity doesn't matter because he looks white passing. If Lindsay claims she's Native, she's going to get lynched off the internet.
 
If she was going to pull the 1/64 Cherokee Princess trump card, she would have done it already. Also her deleting Twitter is an admission of guilt to the woke mob. If she does come back, she’s going to have to answer to being a hardcore niggerstomping racist every time she posts a Tweet or is in a video. That’s why I believe she is canceled for all intents and purposes. If her husband is an engineer somewhere other than SpaceX, it’s enough to get by on until she figures things out, which I’m sure she’s trying to do at the bottom of every liquor bottle within reach.
 
If she was going to pull the 1/64 Cherokee Princess trump card, she would have done it already. Also her deleting Twitter is an admission of guilt to the woke mob. If she does come back, she’s going to have to answer to being a hardcore niggerstomping racist every time she posts a Tweet or is in a video. That’s why I believe she is canceled for all intents and purposes. If her husband is an engineer somewhere other than SpaceX, it’s enough to get by on until she figures things out, which I’m sure she’s trying to do at the bottom of every liquor bottle within reach.
She still has almost 9,000 patrons.
 
I wonder if Lindsay regrets the abortion sometimes, maybe helping your kid with online classes would be better and more rewarding than getting canceled for some dumb tweet.
There's absolutely nothing rewarding about online classes, in fact you have to watch your kid turn more and more stupid, but I get your point. Having a kid would have probably forced her to mature a lot more than what she achieved with the soyboy gang she formed.
 
I wonder if Lindsay regrets the abortion sometimes, maybe helping your kid with online classes would be better and more rewarding than getting canceled for some dumb tweet.
I wouldn't doubt it. In the documentary while talking to a bunch of pro life people she breaks down crying and there's a tinge of regret throughout the whole thing. Also she was living near Elisa when she had her first kid, so there was probably a question of "What if?" going through her head. Do I think she'd go back and undo it? Probably not, even after this. As has been mentioned above she's getting plenty of patrons and only lost 400 subs, a drop in the bucket compared to over a million. Also, would she have been able to snag SpaceX husband as a single mother? Probably not.
 
I think the thing about Ellis is that she really was one of the founding mothers of YouTube leftism so it's hard to take her down completely.
Half of these red cows are treating every random minority like they're a holy monolith so really they're no different than she is.
The big issue regarding her is that she represents the old way of liberal thinking which doesn't mesh well with the extreme PC new way that's been taking shape since 2016.
So while I don't think she's going to get canceled completely I do think she's going to be phased out with whatever new Marxist Beardtuber people are going to be sucking off now
That's always the case with leftism. What is considered standard leftist ideology now will be counted as ultra-conservative in the future. Like for example, hating trannies. Most feminists from the second-wave feminism school of thought hate the fuck out of trannies, thinking that trans-sexual women are men invading women's spaces. ( https://medium.com/@cassandrathng/womens-march-second-wave-transphobia-469285e3f52 ) But if you voiced that same hatred of trannies right now, you'll be seen as an ultra-conservative fascist tyrant in the eyes of the modern left. Women who used to be part of "the movement" were cast aside and discarded because they stepped out of line when "the movement" suddenly had an agenda that wasn't similar to their own.

Heck, just look at the modern left's hatred for the white working class. It used to be back then, they used to rely on said working class against the EEEEEEVIL Republicans and their rich white boy demographic. But now, demonizing the white working class for wanting candidates like Trump who want to protect American jobs is now the standard pablum for the left, even though the jobs being shipped overseas are minimum wage-slave jobs like little girls being paid pennies on the dime to make girl-power shirts for vapid feminist movements here in the west.

As an Asian American myself, it's funny because Avatar is essentially a woke white take on anime that a lot of their US fans think anime should be. Lindsay is right, but she's dealing with a clearly culturally blind bunch of dipshits on her level who think Asians are white, and that anime should be clearly creatively directed by a market outside of Japan than actually doing their own shit, like starting up their own market/creative culture. Because you know, whining and mocking about it as a bunch of "tasteful anime nerds" is clearly a sign of cultural hegemony integration.
Basically, yes. As good as Avatar the Last Airbender was, in the end, it wasn't fully like an anime because it wasn't willing to cross the kind of barriers anime would usually do, like sex jokes and body humor (Dragon Ball) or outright grimdark tragedy that makes the Dark Knight Trilogy look like a walk in the park with the Teletubbies. (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam) Nor does it rely on moe cuteness (Fruits Basket) or outright sex appeal. (Kill La Kill) There are just some lines that Last Airbender and Korra won't cross, lines that anime skips over like it's nothing all the damn time.

Also, never forget that Lindsay openly says anime is the worst because it doesn't follow "traditional movie storytelling" or whatever her spoiled suburbanite ass likes to preach on about:


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So basically Lindsay hates something that did not come from the west for not following traditional western movie storytelling? Wow, that's a racist take if I ever saw one.

I wonder how she'd react to other eastern cartoons like Shaktimaan which is macho as all hell. It's probably going to be similar to how many feminists whine about how Zeta Gundam is sexist or something.
 
I think the thing about Ellis is that she really was one of the founding mothers of YouTube leftism so it's hard to take her down completely.
Half of these red cows are treating every random minority like they're a holy monolith so really they're no different than she is.
The big issue regarding her is that she represents the old way of liberal thinking which doesn't mesh well with the extreme PC new way that's been taking shape since 2016.
So while I don't think she's going to get canceled completely I do think she's going to be phased out with whatever new Marxist Beardtuber people are going to be sucking off now
she's also not entirely willing just to grade things politically. See her review on Rent. She was gonna fail a loyalty test sooner or later.
 
she's also not entirely willing just to grade things politically. See her review on Rent. She was gonna fail a loyalty test sooner or later.
I agree.
She's the Old Guard form of liberalism which today is seen as centralist by leftist.
That's how these wackjobs work
 
Heck, just look at the modern left's hatred for the white working class. It used to be back then, they used to rely on said working class against the EEEEEEVIL Republicans and their rich white boy demographic. But now, demonizing the white working class for wanting candidates like Trump who want to protect American jobs is now the standard pablum for the left, even though the jobs being shipped overseas are minimum wage-slave jobs like little girls being paid pennies on the dime to make girl-power shirts for vapid feminist movements here in the west.
Not quite.
This "modern left" always existed and it is called Champaigne Socialism. They hate the working class for being too dumb to follow their enlightened teaching.
And working class people hate them way harder.

Truth is, working class leftists are too busy working and/or unionizing to make hour-long videos or obsessive tweets over the left-leaning or problematic elements of Disney movies - these are the shit they watch to unwind, after a long day's work.
Similarly, Working class centrists and conservatives see champaigne socialism as a clownshow indicative of how deluded the left is and they would go for populist rightwingers like Trump over a rich twat that loves the niggers, the trannies and the chinks as long as this costs them nothing.

I mean, back in 1980, the anarchist left punk band The Dead Kennedys wrote a song mocking these people, called Holiday in Cambodia
Just take a look at the lyrics.
The fact that these clowns are visible because youtube doesn't mean they are not just a small piece of the left.
 
Basically, yes. As good as Avatar the Last Airbender was, in the end, it wasn't fully like an anime because it wasn't willing to cross the kind of barriers anime would usually do, like sex jokes and body humor (Dragon Ball) or outright grimdark tragedy that makes the Dark Knight Trilogy look like a walk in the park with the Teletubbies. (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam) Nor does it rely on moe cuteness (Fruits Basket) or outright sex appeal. (Kill La Kill) There are just some lines that Last Airbender and Korra won't cross, lines that anime skips over like it's nothing all the damn time.
What are these lines? I only remember A:TLA having to deal with censors at Nickelodeon, which led to things like Zuko walking in on Sokka waiting for Suki in a tent and Korrasami being its most overt in the last scene of the last episode and needing a comic to develop it further. And then there was Aang's struggle in having to kill Ozai that made up the series finale.
 
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Lindsay is as Native American as Elizabeth Warren.

She'll probably get by on it by her fellow Twitter white, woke crowd who don't actually care what ethnic minorities think despite saying "listen to voices of x"

But actual natives would tell her to fuck off because she's done nothing for them in terms of rights advocacy or practice their customs in her YouTube videos. That and she'll probably fail their blood purity tests as to who counts as a member of their tribe.
Elizabeth Warren's big mistake was that she caved in and apologized, which is just about the worst thing you can do in response to social justice activists. Had she doubled down and did what I suggested, she would most likely have gotten away with it.

This is also the big reason why Rachel Dolezal got cancelled while Shaun King largely hasn't. Any public display of guilt in the eyes of these people will simply embolden them to pillory you even harder, while doubling down and playing the victim will ensure that the grift goes unchallenged. If Lindsay is smart, she'll opt for the latter tactic, although a lot of this will depend upon whether or not she is a true believer in this stuff.
 
Elizabeth Warren's big mistake was that she caved in and apologized, which is just about the worst thing you can do in response to social justice activists. Had she doubled down and did what I suggested, she would most likely have gotten away with it.

This is also the big reason why Rachel Dolezal got cancelled while Shaun King largely hasn't. Any public display of guilt in the eyes of these people will simply embolden them to pillory you even harder, while doubling down and playing the victim will ensure that the grift goes unchallenged. If Lindsay is smart, she'll opt for the latter tactic, although a lot of this will depend upon whether or not she is a true believer in this stuff.

Shaun King also played the rarely-used "My mom's a total hoebag" card, that remarkably worked.

Lindsay's probably getting PR advice from her publisher, because so far she is playing it as best as one can in these times. She's running away until people forget or stop caring. The worst thing she can do is address this in any way, shape or form. Just say nothing for a week or two, then make a video about the secret homophobia in "Disney's Bonkers" or some other pandering crap and her audience will move on.

However, I'm hoping she releases a video attempting to explain or address the controversy. That would like throwing gasoline on this retarded fire.
 
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Shaun King also played the rarely-used "My mom's a total hoebag" card, that remarkably worked.

Lindsay's probably getting PR advice from her publisher, because so far she is playing it a best as one can in these times. She's running away until people forget or stop caring. The worst thing she can do is address this in any way, shape or form. Just say nothing for a week or two, then make a video about the secret homophobia in "Disney's Bonkers" or some other pandering crap and her audience will move on.

However, I'm hoping she releases a video attempting to explain or address the controversy. That would like throwing gasoline on this retarded fire.
I remember someone earlier in the thread talking about how she has 30 days from deactivating her account to come back before it’s gone for good. So she may return in the last week of that countdown.
 
Not quite.
This "modern left" always existed and it is called Champaigne Socialism. They hate the working class for being too dumb to follow their enlightened teaching.
And working class people hate them way harder.

Truth is, working class leftists are too busy working and/or unionizing to make hour-long videos or obsessive tweets over the left-leaning or problematic elements of Disney movies - these are the shit they watch to unwind, after a long day's work.
Similarly, Working class centrists and conservatives see champaigne socialism as a clownshow indicative of how deluded the left is and they would go for populist rightwingers like Trump over a rich twat that loves the niggers, the trannies and the chinks as long as this costs them nothing.

I mean, back in 1980, the anarchist left punk band The Dead Kennedys wrote a song mocking these people, called Holiday in Cambodia
Just take a look at the lyrics.
The fact that these clowns are visible because youtube doesn't mean they are not just a small piece of the left.
Back then, the champagne socialists mostly tried to get the white working class to support them. In fact, for a good while, up until the second half of the Obama years, the Democrats were considered the party of the working class and despite some far-left people mocking them, they still mostly supported the Democrats over the likes of George Bush II and Mitt Romney. It was during the Trump era when Trump's rhetoric of bringing back jobs to America lured many white working class people to the Republican side did the left finally turn against them fully, calling them racist, sexist bigots.

What are these lines? I only remember A:TLA having to deal with censors at Nickelodeon, which led to things like Zuko walking in on Sokka waiting for Suki in a tent and Korrasami being its most overt in the last scene of the last episode and needing a comic to develop it further. And then there was Aang's struggle in having to kill Ozai that made up the series finale.
If Avatar was an anime, Zuko would have walked in on a naked Suki and get punched/slapped for his trouble. Korrasami would have lots of lesbian cheesecake between Asami and Korra. And Aang would have killed Ozai, just as Domon Kasshu from G Gundam had no qualms about killing his master, Master Asia/Shuuji Kurosu, even though it hurt him a lot emotionally. Aang had problems killing a warlord who massacred his people. Domon killed a man whom he loved like a father just because that man was serving the wrong side.

The whole "no kill" code (which Last Airbender has) is a very artificial thing imposed upon western shows because censors from the 80s and 90s get queasy whenever the heroes kill someone, whereas anime has this very "classic" sense of justice where yes, they will kill the bad guy, even people like Kira Yamato (of Gundam SEED fame) who work for peacemakers like Lacus Clyne do fight and pile up body after body in order to attain that peace. Quite frankly, if Avatar was being true to its Eastern roots, Aang would have killed Ozai, especially in that bit when Avatar State Aang talks about the crimes that Ozai and his forefathers committed against the land. It won't even count as revenge, but rather, be an example of cosmic justice.

That's the difference between the East and the West in children's entertainment. The Western cartoons stretch the Christian principle of "love thy enemies" to an extent where even the original Christians would consider it ridiculous (they had no problems killing barbarian invaders even when the Roman Emperors were still pagan, they had no problems waging a civil war to wrest control of the Roman Empire from the pagans, and they would have executed the Joker or Fire Lord Ozai with no problems on their conscience) whereas the East still has that very "Clint Eastwood" sense of justice where they will kill the bad guy and keep on going. Even a kid like Goku from classic Dragon Ball had no problems eradicating the Red Ribbon Army or killing King Piccolo.

I agree.
She's the Old Guard form of liberalism which today is seen as centralist by leftist.
That's how these wackjobs work
People should have learned their lesson from the French Revolution. To the leftists, you can never be leftist enough. The Revolutionaries at first thought that just making a constitutional monarchy would be enough. But the mob wanted more. They wanted no kings, they wanted dead nobles and churchmen, and they wanted the peasants who stuck to their traditions to also die. The same goes here. People who were once the old guard among leftists are now one step away from being condemned as fascists or Nazis because they didn't go with everything the Left preaches. Old-school feminists from the Second Wave of Feminism were useful to the leftists in getting a lot of crap passed and attacking traditional family roles, but once these feminists' hatred of transsexuals became inconvenient for the Left, they were seen as verboten.

Nostalgia Chick, being an old-school feminist, is now in the process of finding out that she will be counted among the politically incorrect for not going along with everything the Left comes out with. Just like how many SW fans who didn't like the Sequel Trilogy are now considered Alt-Right by the media and the left, so too did Lindsay earn the Left's hatred for not going along with their Asian-esque films.
 
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Back then, the champagne socialists mostly tried to get the white working class to support them. In fact, for a good while, up until the second half of the Obama years, the Democrats were considered the party of the working class and despite some far-left people mocking them, they still mostly supported the Democrats over the likes of George Bush II and Mitt Romney. It was during the Trump era when Trump's rhetoric of bringing back jobs to America lured many white working class people to the Republican side did the left finally turn against them fully, calling them racist, sexist bigots.
This is the New Labour effect (UK).
Workers parties got so successful they became a foundation and their voting base entered middle class, while the leadership got into bed with enterpreneurial interests, transforming them into progressive center-right/ realist parties. This alienated a lot of voters, but they were a lesser evil.
Then, the recession hit and the working and middle classes got so royaly fucked people turned to populist right and radical left parties. This has been happening all over Europe for a decade now, with certain countries getting far right (Hungary) or far left (Greece) goverments into power. Or whatever the fuck is going on in Italy with 5 Stars and in UK with Boris Johnson.

Bernie Saunders could probably make Trump run for his money in 2016, but the Democrats were more afraid of him than of DT.
 
This is the New Labour effect (UK).
Workers parties got so successful they became a foundation and their voting base entered middle class, while the leadership got into bed with enterpreneurial interests, transforming them into progressive center-right/ realist parties. This alienated a lot of voters, but they were a lesser evil.
Then, the recession hit and the working and middle classes got so royaly fucked people turned to populist right and radical left parties. This has been happening all over Europe for a decade now, with certain countries getting far right (Hungary) or far left (Greece) goverments into power. Or whatever the fuck is going on in Italy with 5 Stars and in UK with Boris Johnson.

Bernie Saunders could probably make Trump run for his money in 2016, but the Democrats were more afraid of him than of DT.
And then 2020 happened.
 
And then 2020 happened.
2020 was long in the making. I could argue that the "We need MOAR womyn" that started in 2012 was astroturfing to prepare the White House for Hillary. In a way, the Dems created both Trump, all sorts of -gates and the alt-right because they were backing the wrong horse and kept doubling down.
 
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