Game of Thrones Thread

yeah, I’m imagining a major sci-fi twist is largely reaponsible for his procrastination and hesitation.
I don't see how a sci-fi twist wouldn't completely trivialize everything from the... five? eight? twenty? books before this. It would be right up there with the "it was all a dream" season of Dallas.

OTOH, didn't Dragonriders of Pern do the sci-fi twist and still keep it's fanbase?
 
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I don't see how a sci-fi twist wouldn't completely trivialize everything from the... five? eight? twenty? books before this. It would be right up there with the "it was all a dream" season of Dallas.

OTOH, didn't Dragonriders of Pern do the sci-fi twist and still keep it's fanbase?
I don’t think it would be too far out, but it would definitely enrage a lot of people lol

I think it tends to be in line with Martin to introduce a lot of magical/supernatural things, expecting the reader to interpret it as just “fantasy world magic” but it is, in fact, scientifically explainable.

he’s also mostly a sci fi writer with a knack for batshit twists.
 
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I don't see how a sci-fi twist wouldn't completely trivialize everything from the... five? eight? twenty? books before this. It would be right up there with the "it was all a dream" season of Dallas.

OTOH, didn't Dragonriders of Pern do the sci-fi twist and still keep it's fanbase?
And yet on the other hand, you can have a situation like with the Heroes of Might and Magic video game series. When New World Computing wanted to introduce a science-fiction themed faction into the third game (and keep in mind that the setting is a "hidden science fiction" one, something which is especially blatant if you play the RPG games set in the same world), the creators got flooded with literal death threats... sent via physical mail... to their home addresses.

Wait, isn't "feudal stasis that's secretly enforced by high-tech alien cabal" the premise of the Gor books?
There's also a series of theories which posit that the Masters are an Illuminati stand-in, secretly trying to snuff out magic from the world, which is why they manipulated the events behind "The Dance of Dragons".
 
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I don’t think it would be too far out, but it would definitely enrage a lot of people lol

I think it tends to be in line with Martin to introduce a lot of magical/supernatural things, expecting the reader to interpret it as just “fantasy world magic” but it is, in fact, scientifically explainable.

he’s also mostly a sci fi writer with a knack for batshit twists.
The least retarded way to go about this would be to be as ambiguous as possible about it. If everything's describe through the eyes of a Westerosi, Martin could straight up do the most iconic sci-fi stuff, it would still end up garbled enough that you wouldn't know if it was magic and demons or a flying saucer and aliens.
The movie "Knowing" did this rather well, by the end of the movie the creatures that collect the children could be aliens that travel in some futuristic spaceship -or- it could be angels and some divine rapture thingy happening.

But I doubt that some sci-fi twist will happen, it's just people overthinking stuff. However, just like with Ancient Aliens, the same people that are invested in this weird idea will take whatever tiny aspect of the plot they can find to support their theory, no matter how absurd it is going to be.
 
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I'm gonna laugh if they managed to kill this series hard enough that even the FunkoPop cultists don't consoom the 10th anniversary merch.

It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Almost nobody makes GOT memes any more. Nobody unironically says in meatspace things like "You knurr nothing Jon Snurr," or similar.

Series 7 killed the show and series 8 buried it.
 
HBO must really be bleeding money and subscribers. Game of Thrones is so thoroughly dishonoured and discredited, even the ending of Mass Effect 3 pales in comparison. Next to nobody cares about the setting outside of the various novels and sourcebooks, and even that is beginning to wane, with people slowly yet surely realising the series will probably never be completed - or at least, not by Mr. Martin himself. I'm almost of the opinion that his publisher/editors are patiently waiting for the man to die, so that then the real work on the series can begin. In the meantime, they humour him by letting the jolly old man work on the lore and history of "Planetos".
 
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Tolkien finished his series and made a prequel in the Silmarillion which gave fans the history of Middle Earth they wanted so much. He is also the Father of modern fantasy.

George has not finished his series, is literally doing nothing with it due to creating a mess with his storytelling and how many sub plots he created. He is also a massive sellout.

George has no room to criticize any author right now. Let alone Tolkien.

Finish your series George.

One major detail not mentioned in the thread is Tolkien had real jobs and a career throughout his adult life and writing was something he did on the side.
The irony is when Tolkien was alive, his colleagues told him to stop wasting time on make believe stories and go back to his serious academic stuff.

It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Almost nobody makes GOT memes any more. Nobody unironically says in meatspace things like "You knurr nothing Jon Snurr," or similar.

Series 7 killed the show and series 8 buried it.
Oh they do, but they're memes that talk about how D&D are hacks and how much they hated season 8.
 
I would only contemplate going to that anniversary website, if it had a guestbook that allows me to call everyone involved in writing for the show a stupid faggot.
Brian Cogman's all right, he just kept getting sidelined by the dodos towards the end. Before Season 7 I'd say he was the best writer on the show who didn't also write the books. His episodes afterwards are tainted by association, unfortunately.
When HBO immediately canned the one of those 5 spinoff shows he was going to head I knew they were doubling down on stupid D&D bullshit that appealed to people watching in bars. I have zero expectations for the Fire & Blood series.
 
Brian Cogman's all right, he just kept getting sidelined by the dodos towards the end. Before Season 7 I'd say he was the best writer on the show who didn't also write the books. His episodes afterwards are tainted by association, unfortunately.
When HBO immediately canned the one of those 5 spinoff shows he was going to head I knew they were doubling down on stupid D&D bullshit that appealed to people watching in bars. I have zero expectations for the Fire & Blood series.
I don't understand the concept of making a prequel in the first place. A series taking place in the past, but concerning peoples and events disconnected from the main series? Of course. Set in some of the distant lands we barely ever hear about? Yes, please. But this? They might as well create a series about Robert's Rebellion.
 
I don't understand the concept of making a prequel in the first place. A series taking place in the past, but concerning peoples and events disconnected from the main series? Of course. Set in some of the distant lands we barely ever hear about? Yes, please. But this? They might as well create a series about Robert's Rebellion.
GRRM is autistically obsessed with the Targaryens, and most official asoiaf content written after the show came out concerns them. I 100% believe they're going in this direction because it gives them the most buy-in from the author. Like we saw with the latter half of the show, and the "the white walkers are akshually about colonialism" pilot that got mercy killed, when they don't have George around to rip off, the story content goes to shit.
 
GRRM is autistically obsessed with the Targaryens, and most official asoiaf content written after the show came out concerns them. I 100% believe they're going in this direction because it gives them the most buy-in from the author.
Yes, his love for that particular household is quite obvious, which makes his comments about Mr. Tolkien and his writing all the more hypocritical, seeing as Mr. Martin is so laser-focused on an incestual, magical, dragon-taming family, with quite a few sorcerers in their ranks to boot. They don't sound "low fantasy", do they?
 
Yeah, I've never been a big fan of the Targaryens either. They serve their purpose as the caricature of despotic medieval nobility well enough. What puts me off is Martin's obsession with them, I really don't get what's so interesting about the parodies of medieval romanticizations about purity, gallantry, excellence, etc.

They always seemed like they're better suited being a memory, in a way similar to how Valyria is treated. Essos still living under the ruined shadow of Valyria is both absurd and fascinating to me, and the details left out increases the interest and mystery,

Really, the Targaryens are at their best as a mysterious, glorified memory. Going into obsessive detail really ruins them for me and makes them boring and uninteresting.
 
Yeah, I've never been a big fan of the Targaryens either. They serve their purpose as the caricature of despotic medieval nobility well enough. What puts me off is Martin's obsession with them, I really don't get what's so interesting about the parodies of medieval romanticizations about purity, gallantry, excellence, etc.

They always seemed like they're better suited being a memory, in a way similar to how Valyria is treated. Essos still living under the ruined shadow of Valyria is both absurd and fascinating to me, and the details left out increases the interest and mystery,

Really, the Targaryens are at their best as a mysterious, glorified memory. Going into obsessive detail really ruins them for me and makes them boring and uninteresting.
Remember this man's entire series is essentially fanfiction of the War of the Roses. The Red Wedding is a riff on the Black Dinner in the 15th century. The Dorne/Iron Islands arcs have a lot of parallels in Plantagenet history. I think GRRM is just a huge medieval dynastic politics fanboy and he continues to default to what's comfortable as he struggles to figure out the next book.
 
Remember this man's entire series is essentially fanfiction of the War of the Roses. The Red Wedding is a riff on the Black Dinner in the 15th century. The Dorne/Iron Islands arcs have a lot of parallels in Plantagenet history. I think GRRM is just a huge medieval dynastic politics fanboy and he continues to default to what's comfortable as he struggles to figure out the next book.
yeah, and that’s unfortunate, because world building is usually much stronger when the premise isn’t based off a real world equivalent. I don’t have any problems with real world allusions or allegories, but it so clearly being a war of the roses ananology makes it a lot weaker than if it was just a feudal conflict.
 
LOL Are they seriously fucking deluded to do a 10 year anniversary to this absolute abortion of a show? Seasons 7 and 8 made going back to watch the rest of the series pointless. I've never seen an ending that was so universally panned that critics and audience actually fucking agreed on something. HBO, this series is fucking dead and buried. Martin himself can't even be bothered to try and finish this. What the fuck are you retards thinking.

NOBODY wants more of this except to redo seasons 5-8 and unless you are announcing something like that, nobody will give a fuck. Even if you do announce it I find it hard for people to actually muster up a care in the fucking world. Sean Bean got fucking lucky in the end, getting killed off when the series was good instead of when it became fucking dogshit. Jon Snurrh, Bran and all the other cast are just fucking mockeries now for how stupid they are.

Fat fuck Martin can't be bothered to finish his work and ridicules anyone who pesters him about it. Fuck Game of Thrones. This shit is deader than Mass Effect 3 and will go down as one of the worst endings in any media because it utterly annihilates everything that came before it.

I mean, your king is king because he can tell fucking stories. Seriously HBO, eat shit. Not even the most soy filled manchild is going to buy any of this trash. Everyone has moved on trying to forget what cinematic abortion your two retards foisted on televsion.

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And I don't care what people say, low magic setting with medieval politics are boring as dogshit. If I want to read low magic politics, I'll read real history. I don't need some fat fuck's excuses while he says his shit is low magic and has shape changing assassins and undead ice liches and time travel. God, Martin is such a fucking hack and a hypocrite.

Fat fuck voice: "I durn like magic because its deus ex machina:"

*proceeds to use magic because he wrote his stupid ass into a corner*
 
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