Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Rape allegories are horrible no one should ever put them in fiction. *cough* Pokemadhouse.
Good dunk Lily you deserve a sticker.
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Rape allegories are horrible no one should ever put them in fiction. *cough* Pokemadhouse.
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E;R and Lily really are as similar as I thought huh. I'm gonna assume she's referring to Garnet and Pearl's thing in S2, which wasn't a rape allegory but an issue of consent in general which isn't limited to sex (any time online would've taught you this with consent forms). I can see why E;R would run with the bad faith take since there's some humour to wring out of that angle, but Lily is just stupid which makes it funny in a completely different context.
 
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correct me if im wrong but... didny lily say she was done with steven universe?
like i swear she's said she's been done with the series ever since that SU is Garbage video.
like she said she was over it.

god lily loves to hold grudges that lasts for years doesnt she.

I cant wait to feel sorry for ginger and Mikayla when they decide to dump her ass and they have that wackjob lurking in their shadows 24/7 because that's a common behavior she's had.

like seriously who'd date someone who's shown behaviors of jealous bitch syndrome, gossip about their exes (friends/partners) behind their back and spread lies about them? its a common point that, if someone is willing to speak gossip/behind someones back to you, they'll do the same about you to someone else. you're no special case.

like they did walk into this relationship on their own accord but tbh lily has groomed them. idc if you think adult grooming is a thing or not but i'd happily call ginger's case grooming atleast.
 
I'm surprised not to see Kat Blaque on that list, since she's a Black Trans Woman and has talked about Breadtube before on her channel. Kat has videos talking about being into polyamory and other sexual topics too so, I'd assumed that Liliana'd have an interest on her content.

All the other people on that list, with I think only the exception of T1J, would never use the label breadtube for themselves. At most just a reviewer o someone who does video essays about media. Does Liliana think just because they said on one way or another "racism is bad" that makes them immediately breadtube, even if they never talk about leftist policies or anything relevant to the left as a movement? That's so intensively braindead that I'm surprised with myself because I didn't see it coming from her.
 
correct me if im wrong but... didny lily say she was done with steven universe?
like i swear she's said she's been done with the series ever since that SU is Garbage video.
like she said she was over it.

god lily loves to hold grudges that lasts for years doesnt she.

I cant wait to feel sorry for ginger and Mikayla when they decide to dump her ass and they have that wackjob lurking in their shadows 24/7 because that's a common behavior she's had.

like seriously who'd date someone who's shown behaviors of jealous bitch syndrome, gossip about their exes (friends/partners) behind their back and spread lies about them? its a common point that, if someone is willing to speak gossip/behind someones back to you, they'll do the same about you to someone else. you're no special case.

like they did walk into this relationship on their own accord but tbh lily has groomed them. idc if you think adult grooming is a thing or not but i'd happily call ginger's case grooming atleast.
Lily basically made her career on bashing SU, so if anything, she's desperate for the spotlight to be on her again. Personally I dont' have a problem with it since the landscape has changed significantly since then and there's more and more content creators ready to counter whatever she says. Fair's fair.
 
correct me if im wrong but... didny lily say she was done with steven universe?
like i swear she's said she's been done with the series ever since that SU is Garbage video.
like she said she was over it.

god lily loves to hold grudges that lasts for years doesnt she.

I cant wait to feel sorry for ginger and Mikayla when they decide to dump her ass and they have that wackjob lurking in their shadows 24/7 because that's a common behavior she's had.

like seriously who'd date someone who's shown behaviors of jealous bitch syndrome, gossip about their exes (friends/partners) behind their back and spread lies about them? its a common point that, if someone is willing to speak gossip/behind someones back to you, they'll do the same about you to someone else. you're no special case.

like they did walk into this relationship on their own accord but tbh lily has groomed them. idc if you think adult grooming is a thing or not but i'd happily call ginger's case grooming atleast.
She did. After releasing that video she made a post about how she was done with the show and wouldn't be talking about it again.
And then proceeded to obsess over it for the next 3 years, I think it's been by now?
Lily is simply incapable of letting go of a grudge.
 
>Lily only made her Korra video because she saw HBomberguy shitty Fallout 3 video wanted to rip him off

That explains everything

Also

>Wants to give POC "breadtubers" a voice
>Is littearly a rip off of the whitest "breadtubers" I know of (Hbomb and moviebob) (who I'm pretty sure hate each other so lol)

Anyways, I appreciate that Lily is attempting to fix her mistake of overreacting on calling SU a "profacist" because somethingsomething not woke enough

But ya know...
ape allegories are horrible no one should ever put them in fiction.
 
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Context: This is a screencap from Lily's latest video. She's trying to make the argument against those who reference Martin Luther King Jr. when discussing Steven Universe's pacifism and tries to explain how he was simly non-violent but not anti-violent.
Bismuth literally wanted to murder everyone up to and including the Diamonds to "fix" the problem, she was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Not to mention they literally needed the Diamonds to fix the problem of the corrupted gems in the first place (something Bismuth was not privvy to at the time).

I've also literally NEVER heard people compare Steven to MLK. Another bad faith take from Lily as per usual.

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Holy shit at this comment from her video. How do these people NOT see the comparisons?
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Context: This is a screencap from Lily's latest video. She's trying to make the argument against those who reference Martin Luther King Jr. when discussing Steven Universe's pacifism and tries to explain how he was simly non-violent but not anti-violent.
I've spoken about Jerry's skewed view of King numerous times so read those if you like. Here's what I have to say this time.

Jerry has never done an ounce of research on Martin Luther King Jr.

King was heavily devoted to his principles of nonviolence. Jerry believes that King would've picked up a shotgun and gone postal on the KKK, King's own words contest that, as he argued that violent revolution was impractical in the context of a multiracial society and further expanded on his principles of nonviolence in his Letter from Birmingham Jail, which he wrote during one of his angriest and passionate times. He does say that while he has his strong opposition to violence, he does believe in a sense of "constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth". I wonder what Jerry might have interpreted that to mea- who are we kidding Jerry hasn't read Letter from Birmingham Jail. King was very pragmatic in a sense based on this, but he was also a very devout, spiritual and moral person. To say that he didn't stand for a degree of moral purity is just... wrong. Straight up, plainly, blatantly wrong.

As I explained here, King used an assassination attempt on him in 1958 (that he survived by a literal HAIR) to preach about the necessity of nonviolence. If that happened today or if he lived back then, Jerry would talk more shit about King than he does Lizzy. Guaran-fucking-teed.

While their views were noticeably different King and Malcolm X did hold each other in high regard, at least sometimes (Malcolm X famously reamed King and called him an "Uncle Tom"). However their general beliefs and approaches to their oppression have naturally gotten people to put them both on opposing ends of the "how did civil rights leaders fight racism" spectrum. It's hardly wrong and not an unreasonable conclusion to view them as dichotomous, by any means.

I'm not even an expert on King or anything, it's just that Jerry's image of him is so noticeably and laughably distorted that it falls apart with a few seconds of basic research. Lol
 
I've spoken about Jerry's skewed view of King numerous times so read those if you like. Here's what I have to say this time.

Jerry has never done an ounce of research on Martin Luther King Jr.

King was heavily devoted to his principles of nonviolence. Jerry believes that King would've picked up a shotgun and gone postal on the KKK, King's own words contest that, as he argued that violent revolution was impractical in the context of a multiracial society and further expanded on his principles of nonviolence in his Letter from Birmingham Jail, which he wrote during one of his angriest and passionate times. He does say that while he has his strong opposition to violence, he does believe in a sense of "constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth". I wonder what Jerry might have interpreted that to mea- who are we kidding Jerry hasn't read Letter from Birmingham Jail. King was very pragmatic in a sense based on this, but he was also a very devout, spiritual and moral person. To say that he didn't stand for a degree of moral purity is just... wrong. Straight up, plainly, blatantly wrong.

As I explained here, King used an assassination attempt on him in 1958 (that he survived by a literal HAIR) to preach about the necessity of nonviolence. If that happened today or if he lived back then, Jerry would talk more shit about King than he does Lizzy. Guaran-fucking-teed.

While their views were noticeably different King and Malcolm X did hold each other in high regard, at least sometimes (Malcolm X famously reamed King and called him an "Uncle Tom"). However their general beliefs and approaches to their oppression have naturally gotten people to put them both on opposing ends of the "how did civil rights leaders fight racism" spectrum. It's hardly wrong and not an unreasonable conclusion to view them as dichotomous, by any means.

I'm not even an expert on King or anything, it's just that Jerry's image of him is so noticeably and laughably distorted that it falls apart with a few seconds of basic research. Lol
Funnily enough, Uncle Tom was an abolitionist work.

Anyone who calls MLK "soft spoken" is part of a massively deluded minority that is likely a strawman Lily invented; the man had passion and spoke like the reverand he was. The only "real" misconceptions I see spread around is that he was a moderate when his Letter from Birmingham Jail was him railing against white moderates.
 
Bismuth literally wanted to murder everyone up to and including the Diamonds to "fix" the problem, she was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Not to mention they literally needed the Diamonds to fix the problem of the corrupted gems in the first place (something Bismuth was not privvy to at the time).

I've also literally NEVER heard people compare Steven to MLK. Another bad faith take from Lily as per usual.

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Holy shit at this comment from her video. How do these people NOT see the comparisons?
Bismuth is actually a nuanced and interesting character. She's a good person who cares deeply about others but even she fell into an "eye for an eye" cycle of violence. But Rose still fucked her over and that is the point. It's the first truly bad thing Steven finds out his mother did making him question the idealized version of her he's heard about his whole life.

THIS WAS MADE FOR EVEN CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND, JERRY.
 
Bismuth is actually a nuanced and interesting character. She's a good person who cares deeply about others but even she fell into an "eye for an eye" cycle of violence. But Rose still fucked her over and that is the point. It's the first truly bad thing Steven finds out his mother did making him question the idealized version of her he's heard about his whole life.

THIS WAS MADE FOR EVEN CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND, JERRY.
I hate that I have to say this since I know that it comes across as a "stop bashing the thing I like" argument, but I think some adults just shouldn't engage with children's media. It's a different kettle of fish from typical criticism which is healthy and should be encouraged (the death threats to other fans and creators not so much), but the type of shit that modern children's entertainment gets is embarrassingly pseudointellectual and Youtube actively encourages it through the algorithm. I enjoy a negative-focused video essay from time to time, but I also make sure to follow creators who engage with content on an appropriate level which is something that's definitely not happening here.
 
I've spoken about Jerry's skewed view of King numerous times so read those if you like. Here's what I have to say this time.

Jerry has never done an ounce of research on Martin Luther King Jr.

King was heavily devoted to his principles of nonviolence. Jerry believes that King would've picked up a shotgun and gone postal on the KKK, King's own words contest that, as he argued that violent revolution was impractical in the context of a multiracial society and further expanded on his principles of nonviolence in his Letter from Birmingham Jail, which he wrote during one of his angriest and passionate times. He does say that while he has his strong opposition to violence, he does believe in a sense of "constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth". I wonder what Jerry might have interpreted that to mea- who are we kidding Jerry hasn't read Letter from Birmingham Jail. King was very pragmatic in a sense based on this, but he was also a very devout, spiritual and moral person. To say that he didn't stand for a degree of moral purity is just... wrong. Straight up, plainly, blatantly wrong.

As I explained here, King used an assassination attempt on him in 1958 (that he survived by a literal HAIR) to preach about the necessity of nonviolence. If that happened today or if he lived back then, Jerry would talk more shit about King than he does Lizzy. Guaran-fucking-teed.

While their views were noticeably different King and Malcolm X did hold each other in high regard, at least sometimes (Malcolm X famously reamed King and called him an "Uncle Tom"). However their general beliefs and approaches to their oppression have naturally gotten people to put them both on opposing ends of the "how did civil rights leaders fight racism" spectrum. It's hardly wrong and not an unreasonable conclusion to view them as dichotomous, by any means.

I'm not even an expert on King or anything, it's just that Jerry's image of him is so noticeably and laughably distorted that it falls apart with a few seconds of basic research. Lol
Nuh uh

Martin Luther King was a super no fuck-giving pragmatic girl boss who was really nice and other gay shit but would also curb stomp you if you were being gross. Cause he was just quirky like that. The people on my discord said so.
 
Bismuth is actually a nuanced and interesting character. She's a good person who cares deeply about others but even she fell into an "eye for an eye" cycle of violence. But Rose still fucked her over and that is the point. It's the first truly bad thing Steven finds out his mother did making him question the idealized version of her he's heard about his whole life.

THIS WAS MADE FOR EVEN CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND, JERRY.
Lily really just doesn't get the show.

And I'm not saying that a fan of Steven Universe (I've seen some episodes and I appreciate what it's going for, but it never really grabbed me). Like... she just literally doesn't understand it. I remember watching her Garbage video and she finally gets to talking about the reveal about Rose Quartz and she legitimately just thought that Rose had always been presented as perfect and pure.

As somebody who, again, only saw a handful of episodes... it is blatantly obvious that Rose was never supposed to be viewed as 'perfect' by the time the twist is revealed. She's viewed as perfect by the other gems, and Steven puts her on a pedestal, but as we learn more about her as a person is becomes increasingly clear that Rose was deeply flawed and the others have an appropriately tinted and biased view of her. The other gems can't accept that Rose was actually a pretty shitty person who spent her whole life trying to overcome her worse nature and never quite managing to do so, but Steven becomes his own person and starts questioning his own assumptions and what he's been told by the Crystal Gems. When it's revealed that Rose Quartz is actually a shapeshifting Pink Diamond, her shitty behavior fully clicks and you realize that well, of course she acted like an entitled brat-- she was. Of course she viewed humans as cute as inferior-- she was a diamond, she was geologically formed to be the apex of her own race, which were already considered more advanced than humans.

It was being built up throughout the entire show that the Crystal Gems had a skewed perspective of Rose. The whole show was a slow deconstruction of her as a flawless hero. I got that figured out just by watching "We Need to Talk". Lily watched the whole damn show up until that point and couldn't get it in her head that just because the Good Characters repeatedly said she was a great person it didn't automatically make it true.

I think I've said this before, but I think Lily hates metaphors and analogies not just because they're 'damaging', but because she can't actually follow them, herself. She has little capacity for connecting information and analogues outside of what's stated on a page, which in turn loops back to her writing style of explaining things at the reader and making sure that all the good characters are always good and right (even if they're sad about it) while all the bad characters are basically just Hitler. She can't process indirect information and nuance. She can't ken the fact that a character on the side of good was a fundamentally flawed person. And I mean legitimately flawed-- soft bigotry, rampant entitlement, violently silencing opposition -- not the "Anevay cares TOO MUCH you guys!" flaws that she likes to give her characters.

Lily is just, fundamentally, a bad critic.
 
Lily really just doesn't get the show.

And I'm not saying that a fan of Steven Universe (I've seen some episodes and I appreciate what it's going for, but it never really grabbed me). Like... she just literally doesn't understand it. I remember watching her Garbage video and she finally gets to talking about the reveal about Rose Quartz and she legitimately just thought that Rose had always been presented as perfect and pure.

As somebody who, again, only saw a handful of episodes... it is blatantly obvious that Rose was never supposed to be viewed as 'perfect' by the time the twist is revealed. She's viewed as perfect by the other gems, and Steven puts her on a pedestal, but as we learn more about her as a person is becomes increasingly clear that Rose was deeply flawed and the others have an appropriately tinted and biased view of her. The other gems can't accept that Rose was actually a pretty shitty person who spent her whole life trying to overcome her worse nature and never quite managing to do so, but Steven becomes his own person and starts questioning his own assumptions and what he's been told by the Crystal Gems. When it's revealed that Rose Quartz is actually a shapeshifting Pink Diamond, her shitty behavior fully clicks and you realize that well, of course she acted like an entitled brat-- she was. Of course she viewed humans as cute as inferior-- she was a diamond, she was geologically formed to be the apex of her own race, which were already considered more advanced than humans.

It was being built up throughout the entire show that the Crystal Gems had a skewed perspective of Rose. The whole show was a slow deconstruction of her as a flawless hero. I got that figured out just by watching "We Need to Talk". Lily watched the whole damn show up until that point and couldn't get it in her head that just because the Good Characters repeatedly said she was a great person it didn't automatically make it true.

I think I've said this before, but I think Lily hates metaphors and analogies not just because they're 'damaging', but because she can't actually follow them, herself. She has little capacity for connecting information and analogues outside of what's stated on a page, which in turn loops back to her writing style of explaining things at the reader and making sure that all the good characters are always good and right (even if they're sad about it) while all the bad characters are basically just Hitler. She can't process indirect information and nuance. She can't ken the fact that a character on the side of good was a fundamentally flawed person. And I mean legitimately flawed-- soft bigotry, rampant entitlement, violently silencing opposition -- not the "Anevay cares TOO MUCH you guys!" flaws that she likes to give her characters.

Lily is just, fundamentally, a bad critic.
Putting aside my own biases as an SUfag it's objectively not a perfect show, but you hit the nail on the head: Lily does not know what the fuck she's talking about. You can't take a critic seriously if they can't even analyse basic themes correctly.
 
She has little capacity for connecting information and analogues outside of what's stated on a page, which in turn loops back to her writing style of explaining things at the reader and making sure that all the good characters are always good and right (even if they're sad about it) while all the bad characters are basically just Hitler.
I might be wrong here, but I think that is an autistic trait. As in actually autistic, not the autistic we're around here. Not getting sarcasm, subtext or basically anything at all unless it's spelled out for you or it's blatantly obvious, maybe even assuming malice off the bat because she has low empathy and genuelly doesn't understand when people are concerned or send her certain messages that are meant to be on her side.

This might also explain why she insist so much that show never saying the words wife or girlfriend is being bad representation, because she needs those words to finally understand what kind of relationship the characters have and she projects her own lack of understanding onto children as an excuse to bash the show.

That's why she's such a bad writer too: she can't trust her audience to think anything for themselves because she can't do that herself either. Just look at all the times she has plagiarized entire trains of thought, phrases, jokes, crtiques, etc. If she didn't she wouldn't have lots to say except the same three things she already said a thousands of times before.
 
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