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This Paypal saga is so stupid and epitomizes Phil's autism vortex. If you can't trust a guy with any of your information, why are you giving him money? And giving him money for NOTHING (besides appreciating his "work")? As I always think, what are these people?

I legit can’t believe twitch hasn’t just banned him with how shameless his grifting has gotten now that they aren’t profiting from it.
Me too. Which makes me still believe that Phil has someone behind the scenes protecting him, and will get his partnership back eventually because he brings in good money. Twitch regularly bans people for far less than his egregious e-begging, feigning disaster for financial gain and toxic negativity.
 
tbf with pigroach luck it wouldnt surprise me if one day some rich oil sheikh joins the stream drops 5 million $ on phil, phil saddles his horse/wife and rides of into the sunset.
That could happen on the morning stream and by the evening stream Phil would be talking about how that tip definitely helps keep him afloat but he's still going to need your support over the next two weeks to hit the tip goal.
 
I mean I'd need to drop at least a half-mil just to really own the haters though. OIC and Swagginz would have to commit seppuku.


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To be fair, this is ROUGHLY what Phil was earning before... BY HIS OWN ADMISSION. I'm sure it was a generous estimate, but it's basically what cheers subs and tips amounted to, he said. We don't even know about those generous juicy BTS contributions, either. So yeah, Phil obscures how much he gets. Are you counting how much he used to get from cheersubantips during the vest streak, or just the tips? Paymetons? Youtube? The chargebacks that he actually wins, because he sure as fuck isn't telling us about those? It's not impossible to have a fairly accurate estimate, but it does require some digging.

He's definitely gonna have a 15K month at least, and he's sure as shit going to expect this support to continue, much like the vest streak was "unprecedented" before becoming the norm. And it's not about whether if Phil could hack it with 1%ers from the stock market, or big pharma people, it's mostly the fact that his empire is based on begging and crying poor.

How can a man, simultaneously, ask for enough money to pay the monthly rent DAILY, and keep crying poor, making up emergencies, hosting fundraisers, constantly crying that the sky is falling, while simultaneously denying that the sky is falling whenever someone calls attention to how he should be on YT and he should be worried since the urgency of his situation is so very dire?

Because he's a greasy scammer. That's the fundamental problem. That Phil Burnell makes top 3% yearly income by crying poor on the internet. And that these two things should, by definition and necessity, be mutually exclusive.

EDIT: If Phil had 5 million dollars he wouldn't give the fans so much as a goodbye video. He'd just quietly pack his bags, move to a mansion, put the wakhando up for sale and have someone else handle it and disappear from the internet forever. He hates that he's a laughingstock and he hates videogames, there's no reason for him to stick around. Maybe in 3-4 years he'd be back telling us all about how he did nothing wrong, he did everything correct but Kat just took him to the cleaners, while Downfromtherafters soars to uncontested #1 in every WWE Champions event.

One of the biggest issues Phil is facing in his career is how he's most likely not ever gonna be able to retire. Most showbiz people suffer from this even when they're succesful: They'll die of old age while still officially employed out of a sense of gratefulness to their fans and how they owe it to the world to still do the things they enjoy. Nobody really likes Phil, even the paypigs seem to help him in chase of an extremely misguided revenge against bullies, I.E people who see through the scam. To him, retirement followed by a name change and total radio silence would be a no brainer. He's not sticking around for his fans, either, he's purely still here because of money.

Unless this massive squeeze he's putting on the paypigs right now is the REAL ten year plan, and what that meant all along was just ten years of no holds barred begging until he has enough money to not have to work any more. Problem with that is, Phil's completely incapable of budgeting or cutting down his expenses, so after a year or two of radio silence, we'd be back at square 1. Specially if he didn't kick his gacha addiction.
 
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EDIT: If Phil had 5 million dollars he wouldn't give the fans so much as a goodbye video. He'd just quietly pack his bags, move to a mansion, put the wakhando up for sale and have someone else handle it and disappear from the internet forever.
And then return 6 months later because that 5 million would now be gone and he will say that he returned "because of the fans" and institute a $1000 per stream tips goal in order to try to maintain the lifestyle he got used to while he had 5 million bucks.
 
But is begging even against Twitch TOS? From what I've read, it's only a problem when streamers go to other streamer's chats and ask for subs/tips (for themselves).
I believe there's something in the rules that you're not allowed to feign distress. So, for example, implying that your family can't afford groceries this week if you don't get a lot of money, and you need that in tips because you get that right away, would probably be against the rules. Hey, wait a second...

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look man if you personally make that much money all the more power to you and you undoubtedly deserve it more and use it better than Phil but 7000 a week is a shit ton of money for a guy with a roommate and a cat. excluding investments and just looking at income earned he is probably in the top 3-5%. nobody is saying that phil is epstein island rich but compared to the average first world income earner he makes well well above average and would be extremely comfortably upper middle class if he had gone 5 seconds without buying jpegs at any point in the last four years.
upper-middle class. eating on paper plates,spending whole day in pyjamas. in terms of revevu,sure but my god he lives like a lazy trashy bum
 
I believe "feigning distress" is against the rules. No one has yet tested whether gambling withdrawal officially qualifies as genuine distress.
I swear the only time I've ever seen that "feigning distress" rule actually ever get enforced was that one time where the dude faked being a paraplegic, streaming in a wheelchair and talking about his gimp legs for donations, and then suddenly "magically" standing up and walking away when he thought the camera was off during one stream.

I guess it takes actually breaking US law (disability fraud in this case) for Twitch to ever do anything about this kind of shit, essentially.

EDIT: Did a quick search on it. The streamer was zilianOP and this happened all the way back in 2013. Fuck's sake, time flies.
 
I believe "feigning distress" is against the rules. No one has yet tested whether gambling withdrawal officially qualifies as genuine distress.
I believe there's something in the rules that you're not allowed to feign distress. So, for example, implying that your family can't afford groceries this week if you don't get a lot of money, and you need that in tips because you get that right away, would probably be against the rules. Hey, wait a second...
If that's true, then I imagine that it would be a difficult rule to enforce. If a streamer says they need subs/tips to avoid impending doom, then surely it's then on Twitch to prove that said distress is being "feigned". Like you would need demonstrable proof that Streamer X asked for money for Reason A, but then spent all that money on something else entirely.

Alternatively, they would be expecting streamers to effectively dox themselves in order to provide receipts of their hardships.
I know we all love to see Dave eat shit, but I don't think I'd be comfortable if Twitch operated in that way.
 
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If that's true, then I imagine that it would be a difficult rule to enforce. If a streamer says they need subs/tips to avoid impending doom, then surely it's then on Twitch to prove that said distress is being "feigned". Like you would need demonstrable proof that Streamer X asked for money for Reason A, but then spent all that money on something else entirely.

Alternatively, they would be expecting streamers to effectively dox themselves in order to provide receipts of their hardships.
I know we all love to see Dave eat shit, but I don't think I'd be comfortable if Twitch operated in that way.
Lmao you're saying this as if twitch is a court of law or something

They enforce all their rules completely arbitrarily and ban people for no reason on a daily basis. They don't havw to prove shit, they fucking wrote the rules lol.
 
Sometimes I wish we could send someone into D.S.P.'s body - yes, I know, a cruel fate - all the way back in 2010 or so and see where they can take it from there. How much better they could be seen, how legitimately successful they could be.
If he had invested just $1000 per month in a basic index fund he'd have about $300,000 in the bank today.
just found something interesting, looks like the pigroach is currently making most money doing his scam since he started few years ago, $7401 in 14 days.
So he's made more money off the partnership than he did while he was in it, and yet he still needs to do a marathon begging stream where he'll likely ask for several thousand dollars more to cover his mortgage.

Phil isn't planning on saving a single penny of his tips and expects the whales to cover the whole mortgage payment during the begathon. And you can bet this will be a monthly event from now on.
 
re 8 is now his main game. from what have read the game is around 12h long. a normal streamer would probably finish it in 2-3 sessions. how long do you think it takes philberto? 2 weeks? 3 weeks?
He went from "Resident Evil 8, doesn't feel like resident evil" to "wow dood this game is soo exciting". The chance of big tips is getting Phil excited, but watch his excitement deflate when he meets the tall vampire lady, and covers his eyes. uhhhh guys I'm married *shows ring*, why do they have to have her in this game? This is so stupid dooood.
 
9/10 people in a country of billions would still be plenty of people. Also on a forum with hundreds of users that 9/10 still makes it 10% of the group.

Again though, not sure why this became me saying "a lot of people earn more than him" when the statement I was refuting was "he made more than EVERYONE on this forum".

I get it, people think DSP makes a lot of money. He doesn't though and you'd see that if you just compare him to some of the bigger names in his field who pull in that $7000 a week without having some emergency to beg for it (and if they do have an emergency? SHIT! Get ready to see some big numbers, 5-6 digits). And I'm not even comparing him to other streamers, I'm comparing him to 39-year-olds who have careers and investments.

$7000 is a lot of money, yes, but not that much for a 10-year-long streamer who was once "white hot" on youtube.
Nice hill. Wanna die on it?
 
So he's made more money off the partnership than he did while he was in it, and yet he still needs to do a marathon begging stream where he'll likely ask for several thousand dollars more to cover his mortgage.
This is all because he missed the Tips goal for like 2 days in a row. His viewers almost hit the damn thing too, pulling in like $158 one time. But the Pokemon Snap stream only pulling in like $40 ("only", ha) really caused him to sweat.
And because he's so out of touch with his own viewerbase, Phil thought that the sky was falling at the first sign of the money faucet failing and so has to pull an "emergency" stream, even though he's pulled in $7.5k in less than a month.
No matter how much money Phil makes, and for all the claims of him being "invincible", you can always count on him to have a hilarious panic attack at the first inkling of trouble.
 
It would be absolutely amazing if Phil ends up having to stream ME1 remake with no soundtrack, so all the viewers are graced with is burps and snorts. Such immersive, quality kahntent!
 
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