Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
You seem to simultaneously know him very well and know nothing worth posting that isn't in defense of him.
Wait a minute... Played with Dream on the server he developed, was aware of his friend group but wasn't close, seems to know more than he lets on, signed up after Fuckwad was called out... Financhu is "sus" as the zoomers would say, or in other words.

Hi Fuckwad.
 
Wait a minute... Played with Dream on the server he developed, was aware of his friend group but wasn't close, seems to know more than he lets on, signed up after Fuckwad was called out... Financhu is "sus" as the zoomers would say, or in other words.

Hi Fuckwad.
Incredible news for you - more than one person can play on the server. Bro, take off your foil cap
 
Wait a minute... Played with Dream on the server he developed, was aware of his friend group but wasn't close, seems to know more than he lets on, signed up after Fuckwad was called out... Financhu is "sus" as the zoomers would say, or in other words.

Hi Fuckwad.
nah I never played MCPVP and I never hacked or got blacklisted on Munchy. Idk who Fuckwad is, but there's a good chance I know them ingame. There's not many people who played MCPVP back then, and got unblacklisted before Dream blew up on youtube, so I know a lot of people it isn't... but I'm not sure who he is.
 
I think he realised he cheated before he sic'd his fans but after the mods proved he cheated in multiple runs, earlier on in your timeline.
You think Dream knew he cheated before the mods published the PDF? He said otherwise unless I'm mistaken.
Either way it doesn't alter my point.
I wouldn't call it defending him saying he acted out instead of admitting, or that he never even considered he'd made a mistake earlier. But I wouldn't call it attacking him either. People think he's maliciously cheated, but to me it just seems he was a prideful moron.

I knew him as a developer and admin because I played his server, but we weren't friends. We had and have mutual friends though.
We may just read into things differently but with his behavior and the circumstances surrounding the cheating it's pretty clear to me he did it with intent.

As for defending him, I'd say passing the buck to his mod dev sucking at QA and communication and saying Dream shifted mods around frequently is defending him. The latter is something he said to defend himself.
Saying he's just a super competitive guy who sticks within the rules to maintain the competition is also defending him, whether it's true or not.

I'm not trying to convince you that he cheated or anything, just saying you seem very one sided on the issue when it's pretty well established that Dream is an asshole who will try to tear someone down using his own "clout" as a defense mechanism instead of just defending himself and cooperating. The Minecraft speedrun mods had to put out the PDF because of how much of an asshole he is, knowing he wasn't going to take it very well.
 
What was that quote by our resident speedrun youtube content creator; Speedrunners cheat not to get faster times, but to get faster times faster? I can see why it's annoying with RNG deciding if you're gonna waste 2 weeks or 2 years, but that's why it's an autistic way to play games and why we mock it. I've no fucking clue how Dream managed to make MC speedrunning of all things hip.

The worst part about all of this is the fact that Dream and Co somehow managed to foster a fanbase full of adult women fantasizing and schlicking off to thoughts of these underage boys engaging in homoerotic scenarios and what not. I'm getting huge "hot teacher preys on male students" vibes. You'll see both attractive adult women and thug-ass niggas defend this entire MC community. How? Why?
 
Late reply, but I'm starting to see just how incompetent Dream actually is with anything do with "mods" and the like considering even though he's on Fabric he's still running OptiFine.

You know, instead of using the performance optimisation mod specifically built from the ground up for Fabric, he goes for the more convoluted patchwork not-even-remotely-officially-supported alternative of using a bridge that forces a Forge mod to work with Fabric. He still has no idea that the shit he's using already has a more suitable alternative than this.

Everyone already knows not to trust him any time he mentions anything about maths, and now, coupled with him also referring to basic resource pack edits, I know not to trust him on any of the shit he chats about mods and modding in general. Moron.
So he is using a modloader. I wondered if he was getting his shit mixed up between mods and datapacks. In that case couldn't the autists over at speedrun have kicked his submission for being presented as a vanilla run when it wasn't?
 
Does anyone feel like his manhunt vids are scripted now? One way or another.
They're definitely not 100% "organic".

Came across Dream and his manhunt videos before the whole cheating controversy and watched a couple out of curiosity because the concept of "speedrunner vs pvp tryhards" sounded interesting.

Even someone like me who hasn't played Minecraft in over a decade can tell that there's a clear trend of Dream's "hunters" becoming completely retarded when Dream's health goes too low. Their accuracy drops to a point where they're missing basically all their shots even from an occasionally stationary Dream, their movements become scrambled and uncoordinated, etc.
There were a couple of parts where Dream went for a particularly risky play and his opponents ceased firing altogether until the "stunt" was done.

This was so obvious and consistent that it took out any entertainment of the potentially good concept.

I wouldn't say the videos are scripted from start to finish - but I'm convinced that the key moments are planned out at least to a degree. At the very least, Dream has a method of signaling his lackeys when he's actually close to death, prompting them to start playing like bots to make sure that Dream comes out of the scenario looking good and they don't.

This is even more plausible to me now that I know about the Dream's ego. One thing I'll give the guy though is that he's not too bad at staging, as long as the audience consists of kids and not speedrunner autists.
 
It seems to be full of horny parasocial teenagers who fantasize about Dream being a twink.
At the moment, speculating about Dream's appearance is something of a Russell paradox.

In my opinion, the point is not in his fears about the possibility of persecution, but in some kind of personal complexes. I have some theory on this subject, but I am not sure that I can clearly and consistently formulate it.
But overall, I'm not surprised by the fact that Dream fans portray him as an attractive guy, given the way he talks about himself and his ostentatious self-confidence.
 
I also found Ranboo's name/face/other info a few weeks back, it's not hidden very well since he accidentally leaked his own info in the past on an old account. However, I don't think it's worth publicly doxxing the kid as he's not really done anything lol-worthy yet apart from being a bit of a pussy and having stans he's terrified of. Dude's just an awkward highschooler who made cringe tiktoks and wormed his way into playing minecraft with his idols and is trying to cope with an army of bloodthirsty teens. He seems to be a decent person otherwise, I don't see him pulling anything crazy manipulative narc-tier like Clayton any time soon. That's just me though.
Exactly. It's pretty unsurprising that his info is quite accessible seeing as though he's a kid that doesn't have any experience of the Internet beyond tumblr and twitter. His only crimes are being cringe and being unwilling to set limits with his audience, however since he's a teenager with anxiety living around... Interesting stuff, it's easy to see why. But yeah I'm not going to doxx him publically there's no benefit, he's literally a high schooler with success he doesn't know how to handle, not an actual shitty person like Dream.
 
Even if he was, if he wants to keep his job he’ll never post about it. Unless his wife is George, I guess
That is actually such a good point. Dude can't have an active relationship, because he'd probably lose at least half of his fanbase. But that's what happens when you capitalize on thirst of lonely weirdos having imaginary relationships planned for you, and your responses are actually pandering to that.

I don't remember if it was mentioned in this or the stan thread, but his stans absolutely HATED him openly thirsting for Belle Delphine and Addison Rae, being in denial for the former and harassing the latter's instagram posts. She probably had no idea and didn't expect that being attractive and in this dude's interests would mean getting e-lynched, cancelled and burned at the stake, and that the numbers of followers attached to this guy is not a flex, but a threat.

But that's what you get when you green-light fan fictions about real life people involving you, and they become nation-sized audience's headcanons. And these people can't tell what's real or fake based on how easy it is to gaslight and manipulate them.

Dream, if not for safety and mental health of everyone involved, please at least consider controlling your stans for your boner.
 
Any group that titles themselves with some dumb phrase ending with twt should be forcibly, physically castrated as a collective.

Now I understand why this entire debacle is an autism magnet. It's not just autistic STEM faggots like me making stupid charts to show Dream's a cheating nigger, the "commentary community" is also involved, as I've recently learned about from the Gunt flagging fatwa imposed on HamberClips. I thought that JohnSwan was just some drama clout chasing grifter (he is but worse). It's like several autistic singularities colliding. This can only get worse if Dream streams on IP2.
 
This minecraft speedrun cheating shit should not be nearly as huge as it is now.

IMO speedrunning a sandbox building game like Minecraft is peak autismo already, but the fact that people give shit so much, they go out of their way to do academic research levels of math and make even more text to sperg about this excuse of a drama is simply mindblowing.

This and GDQ is why speesrunning should die for good.
 
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