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Also, the Veibae thing is a "Damned if you do, Damned if you Don't" situation since if Kiara refuses she's being a bitch, if she accepts then she's forgiving the bitchiest member of VShojo like it's nothing which can go bad.
The only shit I've heard about Veibae regarding her being a shitty person is in regards to something she said several months ago, when she was shitting on HoloLive. But I can tell that's not the only reason people hate her. Too lazy to do research so maybe someone can give the deets.
 
If it's left up to Kiara, it will happen. If it doesn't, then this new mention is just Vei talking, something she does a lot of, or it's Cover stopping it.

I have to wonder if the other members are looking for reasons to push Veibae out or if Veibae has recently been taken down a notch. I'd imagine at this point Veibae is beneath Hime in the Vshojo hierarchy and she only half exists
Kiara was a huge numberfagging, I doubt she would even consider Veibae at this point even if it’s for “power of friendship”.

Veibae is done with any hope of collab with Hololive especially after her being a typical white immature stuck up betch incident. Unless she show remorse by shaving her head or sth then maybe the collab can be put on the table. Right now it’s Nyanners, Mouse and maybe get some trash taste crew members like Connor. The unlikely but plausible is the Hololive reject Sydnap/Hime for the Omegalul factor.
 
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Can't wait to see Vei say some dumb shit if ever the collab pushes through. Imagine her wimping out more than Nyanners after such sas she's displayed, then a few days after the collab, she'll sperge about being restricted and shit lmao
She burned, shitted and napalmed that golden ticket by being a royal bitch, a smart person would sideline her until she fade or graduate on her own accord, not even Zentreya was that stupid
 
I don't like it tbh.

Too much autotune, and sounds like generic edgy anime jpop. Her voice is beautiful, yet they turned it into something soulless.

I was expected something more acoustic, an English song at least. I don't believe this is the kind of music she wants to make.
Not autotune but her other voice has the weird effect that just feels off to me. I was also expecting something more acoustic as I think that's where she shines the most.

They drown out her vocals too much and it overall sounds like a JRPG song. It's a good track but probably nothing I'll listen to a lot.
I agree. If they tone down the music a bit her vocals might come off better. She has a great voice and I feel like its lost in this.
 
Well, she does consider Yagoo a best friend :smug:
She considers Yagoo a best friend for good reason. Her past life with Up8 was fucking miserable. Now that was a black company, she had no control over her social media account, content and collabs until she finally graduated.

I'm sad to hear how terrible her life was, but thankfully it ended up fine and I think about this now and then.
 
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I guess Ina got permissions to play PSO2 NGS, and I cant wait for the drawing stream.
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Veibae is done. Even if she tried to play victims, no one will bat an eye. Nyanners and Mouse collab were view as salvage what left and the scenario which people (Veibae’s fan) will call Kiara a bitch for not answer the collab will not as loud as the KFP cult slandering campaign. Plus Kiara gains nothing with Veibae vs continue with high profile members like Nyanners or even Mouse.
Among the VShojo shitshow maybe only Mousey has a fair rep since she's gravely ill since birth and isn't a bitch overall, Melody isn't bad either but she's got that past of hers on her back which torpedoes pretty much any collabs.

She considers Yagoo a best friend for good reason. Her past life with Up8 was fucking miserable. Now that was a black company, she had no control over her social media account, content and collabs until she finally graduated.

I'm sad to hear how terrible her life was, but thankfully it ended up fine and I think about this now and then.
It's something when even Tsunderia exists while getting less views and subs than low profile clippers and a company with a big roster simply vanishes in less than 2 years. She and Suisei got their lucky breaks when defecting, Signal doesn't even exist anymore as well and she'd be fuuuuucked if she stayed.

Imagine her wimping out more than Nyanners after such sas she's displayed, then a few days after the collab, she'll sperge about being restricted and shit lmao
It's pretty much self-absorbed bitchy behaviour so it's a given. I'll be surprised if she doesn't pull that off, it's not like she gives a fuck to begin with.
 
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I guess Ina got permissions to play PSO2 NGS
You can thanks Iofi for that, i even mentioned a lot of pages ago that Indonesia and iirc some of JP were shilling NGS but Iofi paved the way because she has been going to it since waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the update

Also >The wonderful 101, hope she is playing on switch, the game rely a lot in touch screen and is difficult to nail the gestures sometimes on the steam version
 
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Among the VShojo shitshow maybe only Mousey has a fair rep since she's gravely ill since birth and isn't a bitch overall, Melody isn't bad either but she's got that past of hers on her back which torpedoes pretty much any collabs.
What Melody past are you referring to if its the nsfw stuff thats ongoing as far as I know

Edit: in other news calli is collabing shadowverse with a new coach apparently some kind of professional player iashiK

Second edit: here she is
 
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I do think that out of all the vshojo crew Veibae would possibly be the worst to pair up with pretty much anyone involved in any other professional agency, I mean she pretty much has one thing and that's the slutty succubus schtick which isn't that entertaining without someone that can play off of it well. For all the complaints that get lodged against Vshojo because of the constant toilet humor and sluttiness, Vei is one I would definitely agree on, because from what I've seen she has literally two default modes and that is being a thot or being bitchy... And yet, I've seen so much sperging since she mentioned it on /vt/ and elsewhere, even here, from people who are still so obsessed with the puritanical image of vtubing they picked up from hololive or people just throwing gas on the fire in general. It would make it worth it just to see the meltdown. The drawback of course is I'm fairly certain that if it did happen, Kiara would spaz out as she is wont to do, Vei would start being a catty bitch as she is wont to do, and it would kill off any and all chances of future collabs, even the tiny microscopic Schrodingers chance of a Melody/Coco collab as Coco is on the way out the door.

She's still camgirling? I heard it was a thing of the past, might be misinformed however, thanks!
Yeah I think she will continue to do that even if she stopped Twitch streaming. For better or worse she does seem to genuinely like sex and talking to people about it.
 
I do think that out of all the vshojo crew Veibae would possibly be the worst to pair up with pretty much anyone involved in any other professional agency, I mean she pretty much has one thing and that's the slutty succubus schtick which isn't that entertaining without someone that can play off of it well. For all the complaints that get lodged against Vshojo because of the constant toilet humor and sluttiness, Vei is one I would definitely agree on, because from what I've seen she has literally two default modes and that is being a thot or being bitchy... And yet, I've seen so much sperging since she mentioned it on /vt/ and elsewhere, even here, from people who are still so obsessed with the puritanical image of vtubing they picked up from hololive or people just throwing gas on the fire in general. It would make it worth it just to see the meltdown. The drawback of course is I'm fairly certain that if it did happen, Kiara would spaz out as she is wont to do, Vei would start being a catty bitch as she is wont to do, and it would kill off any and all chances of future collabs, even the tiny microscopic Schrodingers chance of a Melody/Coco collab as Coco is on the way out the door.


Yeah I think she will continue to do that even if she stopped Twitch streaming. For better or worse she does seem to genuinely like sex and talking to people about it.
Aight, I got a very simple reply to this. People dislike Veibae not because she's sex positive, but because she's positively annoying.

Let's go further and I'll say, I've seen very few really damning sentiments on Melody in this thread. Guess what, unlike Veibae who uses sex as a joke, Melody just is sex obsessed, but has a really nice and nuanced personality. She is a nice person who also loves sex, which is grand. There ya go, that's why Veibae bad and yet Melody not bad.

Edit: Anyone trying to push puritanical views because of Hololive would be stupid, we have three Holos (Mel, Choco and Noel) who through ASMR effectively sell sex. Once again, they also have amazing personalities and try to entertain people.
 
Level with me, I usually skip over hateboner posting; what's the key difference between Veibae's horny vs Gundo vs Marine.
 
Aight, I got a very simple reply to this. People dislike Veibae not because she's sex positive, but because she's positively annoying.

Let's go further and I'll say, I've seen very few really damning sentiments on Melody in this thread. Guess what, unlike Veibae who uses sex as a joke, Melody just is sex obsessed, but has a really nice and nuanced personality. She is a nice person who also loves sex, which is grand. There ya go, that's why Veibae bad and yet Melody not bad.

Edit: Anyone trying to push puritanical views because of Hololive would be stupid, we have three Holos (Mel, Choco and Noel) who through ASMR effectively sell sex. Once again, they also have amazing personalities and try to entertain people.
Fair, though I still very much want to know what reasons make people think she's a bitch, besides what she said about HoloLive a while back.
 
Level with me, I usually skip over hateboner posting; what's the key difference between Veibae's horny vs Gundo vs Marine.
I can't speak for others, but mine haven't really been hate boners I'd argue.

As for key difference, I think I summed it up in the post above yours', but of those 3 specifically. Gundo and Marine try to not make it their characters. Gundo's comes out while streaming and especially in collabs, it's more natural entertainment than just "lol sex, are you horny yet?" Marine's is her joking, but there's more to Marine's personality and character than just sex and she tries to downplay this a lot lately to avoid coming off as what people criticize Veibae and Vshojo as. Veibae is neither of those things and lacks any sort of subtlety, wit or personality beyond sex and crass to sell her character and viewer engagement.

Edit: @Nolan Crush I just think what she said was shallow, uninformed and bitchy, in that regard. I can't speak for others, but her canceling the collab and her response after doing so rubbed people the wrong way and I don't blame them.
 
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