Chris has been arrested

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So anyway - according to this website on the Virginia felony process - the arraignment (when the accused can plead "guilty" or "not guilty") is supposed to be within 3 days.

If Chris pleads "not guilty", then the trial should be within 5 months:


Within three days after arrest, you will have your arraignment. An arraignment is when you appear in court to give your plea. You may plead guilty, not guilty, no contest, or mute.

You have the right to a speedy trial in Virginia. If you have been accused of committing a felony and you are incarcerated, you will have a trial within five months of your arrest. If you are not in custody, your trial will take place within nine months.


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So this means that unless the arraignment was delayed due to Covid concerns, Chris should have already pleaded "guilty" or "not guilty" - if he pled guilty, then we shouldn't expect a trial for a few months.

(And if other charges get added on, I'm wondering if they'll be held as separate trials, or all get tacked onto the same trial).
 
He made a bit of a scene in court today :story:

Chandler interrupted the proceedings saying “I’m famous on the internet” loudly, and then Heilberg told her not to speak until spoken to by the court.
 
He made a bit of a scene in court today :story:

According to that article - there are additional charges pending, and people with information are being asked to contact the lead investigator:

The investigation is ongoing and additional charges are pending, according to the Greene County Sheriff’s Office and anyone with information is asked to contact Investigator Jason Tooley with the office at (434) 531-0866.
 
TBH him telling Bella that he did this is a sign that he doesn't understand what he did is wrong. I think he really needs help and I don't see him being found guilty. Unless his lawyer is horse shit and or he pleeds guilty.
IMO that's not a sign he doesn't understand it was a wrong, it's a sign that he doesn't know who it's "okay" to tell things to and who to trust. You can know that murder is wrong but still be dumb enough to tell someone you did it and then get snitched on later.
 
IMO that's not a sign he doesn't understand it was a wrong, it's a sign that he doesn't know who it's "okay" to tell things to and who to trust. You can know that murder is wrong but still be dumb enough to tell someone you did it and then get snitched on later.
I belive that how he talks qbout the situation shows that he doesn't believe he actually did something wrong.
Now if we want to argue if this is still my opinion than ... no noo it is not ... other things in other threads where pointet out to me. That is why this comment is all over the place. 🤣😂🤣
 
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Guys, jail is a lot chiller than prison. Those of you who think he’s going to get raped in county jail and murdered are way over the top. He might get bullied and intimidated a bit but people will probably just leave him alone. He might even find some jail-wife weens impressed by his notoriety.
 
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Pour one out for David Heilberg. Whatever he's getting paid, it's not nearly enough.
I already love this guy.
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I believe OP. I could have saved him the call though.


Chris isn't going to a pod. He's going to sit in a little locked dorm room with a little window he can look outside of and read one of twenty books from the library until he goes to prison. People are going to come and conduct several different types of psychological interviews and make their recommendation to the prosecutor. Nothing is going to happen past arraignment for at least two months because this is a motherfucking criminal case about mother fucking involving an autistic man.

If idiots give him money for lols, the first $100 or so is going to cover his clothes and booking fees. Pretty much the only thing the weens can do now is write him letters (he might not be given them), and give him money to see how fat he gets buying snacks and cokes in his hamster cage.
This is the truth, more or less.

So many turboauts on this board spewing some ridiculous headcanon about what the jail system is like, I was compelled to make an account just to point out the stupidity being peddled by coddled suburbanite morons. People who unironically post stuff like this:

So he’s got a week and a half until he’s raped by niggos, got it.

... and how Chris is going to get stabbed for not joining AB or his fingers broken for getting handsy or whatever else is just spreading misinfo for the more gullible and intelligence-deficient to regurgitate in consequent threads down the line, creating a never-ending cycle of sheer stupidity and decidedly tired rhetoric in general. (Just to be clear, despite my own turboautism, I can recognize the facetious nature of the above post, but there are countless examples where some sperg gets all worked up asking whether something like this is possible).

1. All jails are different to some extent, depending on the state, ownership, etc. But general, higher-level procedures are pretty uniform throughout.
Jail is where you go when you are being held for a year or less. If your sentence is 12 months or less, you will be in jail. If your sentence is 1 year or more, you will be sent to prison, in many cases after having served part of that time in jail in wait of sentencing.

2. Not all jails are equipped to handle Tardius Maximus the Motherfucker, but he would be transported to one that is - and most government-operated jails are (which CVA Regional IS).
Everyone who believes that they will let this sex-offending nutcase into genuine gen pop is out of their fucking gourd. The way it works for a neurotypical person, who is not a sex offender, and who is not suffering from a medical condition such as withdrawal or AIDS goes through the following process (with some greater variation here depending on the institution):

a. Processed at the police station after arrest under suspicion of a crime.

b. Assuming the charges are serious enough, they are soon after sent to jail.

c. Once in jail, even before COVID, you would spend anywhere from 1 week to 1 month in "23-and-1" (23 hours in locked cells with a cellmate, 1 hour in the public area) "gen pop" before you are sorted into a more specific "pod" - basically wing of the jail, where you would have more lenient distribution of hours and floor plan (four-person open space cubes instead of a bunkbed in a locked cell), depending on the institution (20 and 4, 18 and 6, etc.). For example, you could be sent to the pod designated for workers, or one designated for non-workers. There may be multiple of each. At that point, it comes down to when and where there is space. As more informed commenters have stated elsewhere, this is what makes jails a revolving door, and in some way more tense of a living situation than prisons.

d. Before and after being assigned to your pod, you will have court appearances - laying down the charges, setting bail (if any), getting sentenced, etc. This whole time, you may have to spend in jail. Some cases end when you are sentenced to time served, and you just go home. Some cases end when you are sentenced to additional time, and if it is less than a year, you spend the rest of your sentence in jail. If it is longer than a year, you are transferred (eventually) to a prison. The whole process is incredibly lengthy, with periods of 1-3 months between court visits not being unheard of.​

Now, why does this not apply to Chris Chan? Because he is both a sex offender and a turbo autist. These facilities will be designed to be able to handle such individuals, because of course they are. Looking at the 2018 budget of CVA Regional, it is clear that they have the space and professionals necessary to handle a non-neurotypical Lolcow like Chris. So what does the journey look like for someone like Chris?

Instead of being placed into "solitary" or whatever some of the more depressingly moronic idiots have stated here and elsewhere, he will almost certainly first be taken to medical due to his underlying conditions and delusions. Medical is generally designed more in line with an emergency room, where each inmate has their own bed that they are generally kept handcuffed to with much heavier supervision (one professional and/or guard for four-six patients is not abnormal). They wear what are colloquially known as "chickensuits" which are basically paper clothes so you can't rope yourself in jail. Everyone is heavily supervised and restrained. There will be zero physical contact between Chris and any other inmate, unless you count being able to shout whatever blathering nonsense he comes up with at the people in the next bed - and he will likely be told to stfu by the guards present and not disturb the other ill people.

But, what happens to sex offenders in jails? They generally have their own pod, with each person having their own cell. They generally follow a 23-and-1 schedule, and are handled entirely separately from all other inmates - they get fed separately, let outside separately, and are not in contact with any other type of inmate. At most, you may be able to see them in an adjoining hallway through a locked door when they are being moved from one location to another. Maybe this is what some morons on these boards call "solitary" (since you have your own cell), but it's not solitary. Solitary is completely different. I'm not going to get into it because it is irrelevant and this is already an autistic as fuck wall of text to have to deliver, but you idiots left me with no choice. One notable difference is that in some systems, these living situations are actually better than the other pods - for example, they may have heavily restricted and monitored iPads. Probably to keep them from going absolutely bonkers.

Which one will Chris Chan end up in? Well, this COVID isolation is something relatively new obviously, so I can't speak to that - but it is probably being handled within the medical section first. Eventually, pending the outcome of a first court appearance, he would likely be in the sex offenders pod if he was deemed sane enough. Otherwise, he could be wearing the chicken suit all the way up until sentencing, if any.

Sorry to drop a big fat turd on here but some of you idiots were just too stupid to tolerate.

Are inmates in the US allowed to bring any forms of devices for entertainment (Switch, 3DS etc)?
Because I've seen those Covid isolation units and they're small boxes with a bed, toilet and a small table. InB4 Chris goes even more insane there.

This is the type of shit I'm talking about. You are allowed to bring basically nothing into jail, not even your own fucking shoelaces, until you get sorted into a pod. At that point you are allowed to own stuff, but mostly shit you can get through commissary, like sweatpants, underwear, food, etc. There are, for the most part, no digital devices available to inmates except for a TV you don't get to control and is watched by you and 30 other inmates at the same time, at pre-determined periods of liberty.
 
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Are inmates in the US allowed to bring any forms of devices for entertainment (Switch, 3DS etc)?
Because I've seen those Covid isolation units and they're small boxes with a bed, toilet and a small table. InB4 Chris goes even more insane there.
No. They might have a TV. In some prisons they have more access to things like the internet and the occasional shared gaming system depending on what kind of unit they live in, but in jail you definitely can’t have a gaming system or even a cell phone.

edit: from googling it it looks like the following are the things commonly allowed to be brought in by inmates:
  • Prescription eyeglasses
  • Necessary prescription medications and/or proof of prescription
    Prescriptions should be current and in an authentic pharmacy-issued container displaying the patient’s name, date of RX, and any dosage instructions.
  • US dollars (less than $200 is recommended)
    Most jails and prisons deposit your money for you into a personal spending account usable for their in-house commissary. Commonly up to $300 USD can be maintained in your account.
  • Piece of paper containing the contact information of your legal team, family, and anyone else you want to be able to contact during your incarceration.
  • Foam earplugs
  • Flip flops made of rubber or foam (cannot contain metal) for showers
  • After you’re admitted I guess loved ones can send you things like cards, books, magazines etc
 
I dont think any judge worth their salt would ever let him represent pro se
You have a constitutional right to represent yourself (the Faretta right), although the judge will often appoint "standby counsel" if you realize how utterly stupid that is to do. You can do this even if you're literally nuts like the Long Island Railroad shooter. Unless you are actually held incompetent to stand trial at all, you are (generally) presumed to be able to make informed choices about your own legal representation.a

There are few exceptions to this and generally include extreme disruption of the proceedings or repeatedly abusing the right by continually firing your lawyers and delaying the proceedings, or by being mentally incompetent, which would probably be the sole relevant reason for denying the right in this case unless he starts throwing autistic tantrums in court. The fact that he is literally on disability for mental reasons is at least somewhat probative, and enough for the court at least to look into it, but generally the bar is low, as witness the LIRR shooter, Colin Ferguson.

Naturally it's a really bad idea to do this because it is ridiculously awkward to be cross examining witness after witness who personally witnessed you committing the crime(s), like Colin Ferguson. The witnesses were actually getting pissed with him, basically saying "Yes I saw YOU SHOOT THOSE PEOPLE YOU SON OF A BITCH" (not from the actual transcript).

You're also fighting against someone who does this shit every day, and you probably don't know the stylized formal combat that is cross examination. A skilled prosecutor will break up your flow by throwing around objections, especially if you don't actually know the rules well enough to respond to an objection or evidentiary argument on the fly.
 
Guys, jail is a lot chiller than prison. Those of you who think he’s going to get raped in county jail and murdered are way over the top. He might get bullied and intimidated a bit but people will probably just leave him alone. He might even find some jail-wife weens impressed by his notoriety.
Many people in jail are desperately waiting to go to prison. Why?

1. You are no longer "in limbo", which many people in jail are. That obviously leads to tensions between people who don't have the emotional capacity to handle such uncertainty. When the two options are that you are either going home or going to prison, you are anxious to find out which.

2. Jails are still incredibly cliquey and there is inter-group conflict and violence all the time, not to mention individual conflicts over stolen commissary, gambling, and other bullshit. Jail is potentially more volatile in that regard because of the revolving cast of inmates, the general lack of predictability about new inmates' ability to cope with jail life, their street affiliations, etc. People absolutely do get murked, severely injured, and others commit gruesome suicides by doing shit like jumping off the third floor of the pod by climbing over the barely-restraining guardrails.

3. There is very little stability in general in jail, simply because of the number of times you may be forced to switch pods or cubes. You first have to sit in 23-and-1 or similar, or medical, then you may get assigned to a pod. But even after that, if you want to start working off your debt, you will probably have to switch to a working pod. You don't know whether your whole pod is going to get moved to a different wing for one reason or another. Your cube might get broken up if they think that it is problematic, for example if one of your cubemates is making hooch or gets into a fight with another individual in the cube or even outside of it. Hard to build foundations on shifting sands. When you get to prison, for the most part, you can make your cell "yours" and feel relatively secure. And, as mentioned before, you and those around you generally know how long you're likely to be in for (even if you may have pinned your hopes on parole/early release, at the very least you know when you can apply for them).

4. Limited freedoms even relative to prison further aggravate the above issues.
 
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