Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[lemonsolebrother]

of course, this pod is advertising itself as just “guys bein dudes”

as for caldwell-kelly’s “islamic faith”, well, it’s all part of the MO to mock that which you larp i guess

IIRC his exact words were "nut so hard it would blow a hole in the International Space Station" (don't know why that stuck in my mind)

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Which one is it, Muslims are strictly adherent to no graven images or Muslims break the rules all the time? Cause you can search and find all sorts of paintings of Ayatollahs.

Muzzies, just like Jews or Christians or anyone else really love to break rules in creative ways.

For example usury (money lending) is haram, but gifting someone an amount of money is not. And hey, if he decides to gift you an even bigger amount of money in a couple years - why refuse it? Then there's drinking. Alcohol is haram - but what if you were to visit an establishment where they serve drinks in opaque tumblers and you drank something with your eyes completely shut?

Islam having multiple sects with sometimes wildly different tenets doesn't help either. See also: the Shia-Sunni conflict.

 

[aughtist]

IIRC his exact words were "nut so hard it would blow a hole in the International Space Station" (don't know why that stuck in my mind)

edited in a screencap

yeah, it definitely stuck in mine like a parasite. the uncannyness of seeing this person be deep enough in a larp and enough of a pervert for it to be the hottest thing they can imagine, so clearly not giving a shit about being a muslim public figure sharing it. mask off as the wokies like to say, that the whole game is auto____philia

 

[Karras Rising]

the uncannyness of seeing this person be deep enough in a larp and enough of a pervert for it to be the hottest thing they can imagine, so clearly not giving a shit about being a muslim public figure sharing it.

The absolute state of everything when this kind of stuff is going down. I’m too lazy to completely sperg out about it, it just kinda makes me sad, sitting here offended on behalf of fundamentalist Muslims. It is treating lifestyle choices and beliefs as commodities to throw about like they are worth absolutely nothing, while also vehemently defending your commodity fetishism as a lifestyle choice and belief that is not allowed to be made fun of.

Olly (who STILL doesn’t understand philosophy, after all these fuckin’ years) is doing exactly the same thing with womanhood, painting woman out to be this airheaded bimbo stereotype but defending it as True and Honest-hood.

EDIT: Consider this my vote for a separate Alice thread at some point in the future, btw.

 

[narcissistic injury]

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In the latest podcast episode, Olly states he’s on a “waiting list for a pussy” and the waiting list “in this country” is 26 years

 

[fax machine]

Like all of you I find the directionless chaos noise of Kill James Bond unlistenable, so I haven’t paid attention. But I just clicked over to their Patreon out of curiosity and

Assuming 1,436 patrons at the lowest $7.50 tier, they're making at least $10,770/month. Insane. You could calculate a higher floor by counting the names in the Role of Honour (which I can't find) and the names read out on the pod (which would require listening to the pod so nah). Per Graphtreon, it looks like they're still growing too:

Even if they plateau here, that's an extra $43,000+ in the coming year for each host, provided a three way split. (It isn't a technically complex podcast, so I doubt they're paying much to produce it.) Pretty fucking golden for a podcast that hasn't even hit 10,000 Twitter followers.

For PT, that means an extra $43,000+ this year on top of the $350,000+ he's earning through the Philosophy Tube Patreon, maybe a little less because he's lost ~600 patrons since this calculation.

Patreon calculation
8,106 patreons

Big credits = $20 x 243 = $4,860
Small credits = $5 x ~2,958 = $14,790
Other = $2 x 4,905 = $9,810

Total = $29,460 per month

Olly's tiers go up to $125 but this is the bare minimum (assuming no one donates $1 and excluding taxes and Patreon fees).

So a guy that makes at least $353,520 per year is asking people to fund his play that he refuses to rein in the budget on. During a time when many have lost work.

Edit - According to this, Olly was making an average of $3.71 per Patreon before he hid how much he was making.

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PhilosophyTube Patreon earnings, statistics, graphs, and popularity rank updated daily

graphtreon.com

$3.71 x 8,106 = $30,073.26 per month or $360,879.12 per year

Add in YouTube ad revenue, and he easily clears $400K this year.

 

[aughtist]

Olly (who STILL doesn’t understand philosophy, after all these fuckin’ years) is doing exactly the same thing with womanhood, painting woman out to be this airheaded bimbo stereotype but defending it as True and Honest-hood.

even when PT videos had the veneer of educationism, i never once thought that he actually comprehended even his own ontological framework, he was always just reading text. sort of how in his early stand up comedy, he’s not actually speaking to the audience, he’s just orating his prepared material like a podcast at 1.25x speed.

 

[Calculus]

Finally caught up on 20 odd pages of posts. Some points from them:

Ship of Theseus argument, comparing replacing car parts as a troon analogy. I've heard it before, possibly from PT himself

It was Contra who used this in his terrible debate with Blaire White

Speaking of Glinner, just thought I’d throw a bit of levity back into the thread.

I want to see Olly deepfaked into this. The hair is actually pretty similar.

How do they get away with making such statements? Forgive my ignorance but aren’t a lot of “cis” women getting hormones post hysterectomy, or because their menopause is causing health/discomfort issues? Maybe vaginal dryness? All seems a far cry from wanting (essentially) fake boobs or softer skin or whatever the fuck. The entitlement and monomania of it is so galling. I know we are deep into clown world but how do people not shout troons down when they publicly compare their bizarre body modifications (to put it charitably) and cosmetic surgeries alongside legit health issues?

HRT for women replaces the hormones that their bodies used to make naturally. It actually can be quite difficult for women in the UK to get HRT. Many GPs don’t know much about menopause and so women are fobbed off with anti-depressants. I’m surprised Olly wouldn’t know this if he has visited Mumsnet as it’s a pretty common topic there and I think they even have a section devoted to it. In contrast, “motherhood is a social construct” is something you’d find mentioned once 7 pages deep in a thread about something else.

what’s that shiddy show actually about? all i’ve heard from them (twenty mins is all i could bear of shit., awkward nerd banter, over explained min jokes, general flat creeping cringe) is nonce baiting chat. baiting themselves out. what’s the title about?
also lol “but on our show, she rips the piss” wow, oh! how punk.

I love that, eager as we all are for more Olly insider info, the idea of actually consuming his content is just too much. Users here are literally going through hundreds of tweets and hours of livestreams but a podcast episode is impossible. No one even calls for a sacrificial lamb to listen to it as that would just be inhumane.

 

[AfghanBlue]

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In the latest podcast episode, Olly states he’s on a “waiting list for a pussy” and the waiting list “in this country” is 26 years

jesus christ, if he’s going to be a defense barrister that is a public harm.
i got represented once by a guy the judge clearly hated just cos he was young and smarmy. imagine what they are gonna make of a smarmy fake islam fake woman with a voice like fucking bill nighy.
chronic illness.
how much is the cheeky cunt pulling in on that podcast?
one of those donations is for five hundred quid.
between this and people spending forty grand on an am hole- i really need to reasses my conception of how skint i am.

this kind of thing contrasted with the amount of people winging online self identifying (like it’s some race thing) as ‘poor’
it just doesn’t figure.

on that subject i had a thought the other day RE PhilTroon- he doesn’t have gender dysphoria- he has class dysphoria- or maybe should we say, privilege dysphoria;
someone as narcissistic as him can’t stand that he- big clever genius boy- might not be anywhere to thank for his own success at any point along the line-being an upper clas white male in the uk with roots in the aristocracy just doesn’t give him enough credit for being amazing- so he’s had to acclaim himself the lower privelledge position on the totem pole, so now everything he has achieved has been at great stride and off his own back- every time he considered his own greatness next to the current year evaluation of his own class and status it tore at him- could it be that he isnt in fact, extremely exceptional?

even that wasn’t quite enough for him and so he had to add in a hefty portion of making a first world culture leading country sound like Beirut.
that’s how you get his current situation. lmao he wasn’t lying about never having gender dysphoria.

(ps- i read some archived 4chan thing about some post that mentioned he only got into his sub Oxbridge uni cos of nepotism- if anyone has any more info on that OG shit i’d love to see it)

 

[A Very Big Fish]

Podcast tag line should be: "Just a bunch of guys being troons"

Sorry if someone already made the joke and I'm too illiterate to notice

 

[esmeggs]

Don't know why it took me so long but it just hit me that the "icon" that Olly wanted to collab with on his upcoming video was probably Nigella Lawson.

Also is this what he's going for with his hair??? Olly please try another hairstyle of hers, this one doesn't work for you. I remember there was a tweet a while back that somewhat alluded to him basing his """"woman"""" persona off of her.

Spoiler: Said Tweet

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Second:
It's extremely rare in Islam to consider any visible hair acceptable with the headscarf. It blows my mind that a Muslim convert would choose to be portrayed in a drawing with visible hair like that from the scarf slipping back. Converts are usually much more strict in their religious beliefs than someone who was brought up in the culture. I know people brought up in Muslim households who don't wear the scarf except to the mosque, but again, converts are usually more radical.

You are overanalysing things - just like LARPing as a "woman", him being a "muslim" is just a fetish. He doesn't actually give a shit about the religion itself, just the parts that makes him coom (ie being a submissive whore, which is how he views women and muslims - so woke).

 

[Calculus]

(ps- i read some archived 4chan thing about some post that mentioned he only got into his sub Oxbridge uni cos of nepotism- if anyone has any more info on that OG shit i’d love to see it)

He originally failed his philosophy A level (lol) but got his teacher to request that all of that marker’s papers be remarked. Following this, he had the grade he needed to go to St Andrew’s for the conditional offer he was given. This would never happen in a state school, either because the school wouldn’t care or because working class people are not entitled like this.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

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Congrats on 1 million Olly

"...come out the other side.....with all their dormant mental illnesses fully formed." That's a funny way of saying "trooned out", Tom.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

there was a trans protest in london today Was ollie there doing his worst impression of mel Gibson in braveheart?

 

[AfghanBlue]

Don't know why it took me so long but it just hit me that the "icon" that Olly wanted to collab with on his upcoming video was probably Nigella Lawson.

oh shit, yeah maybe, I was thinking it was gonna be a woman accademic in/around philosophy, maybe like paglia or something. someone who he might disagree with and hnceforth might add some spark, and def someone who would turn him down. But of course not. Because that might be interesting. Of course its some shallow BBC 1 shit. Duh duh food, duhh Nigella!


Extra bonus that it probably was Nigella- his twitter reply posted on the last page here, to someone bitching about female columnists- the little profile he gave of a stereotypical posh woman at the daily mail, most conspicuosly , the family connections - literally Nigella.

lmao cant take the rejection from a busy, famous woman well, must lash out at thier very existence immediately.
Makes you wonder why he wanted her anyway? Oh yeah= Starfucker.
Must have been a little bump to earth to realise actually no one anywhere 'up there' knows, cares, or wants anything to do with your little youtube vids.

He originally failed his philosophy A level (lol) but got his teacher to request that all of that marker’s papers be remarked.

Man. Hope it didnt fuck up that markers job for a while. Thats quite a large amount of work to end up have to be completely redone, could get you sacked. Also wonder if any fellow students ended up getting fucked over it? Probably not, I'm assuming the guy was 'too harsh'. . How do we know this? Olly oversharing?

Probably. I yearn for someone he knew in school to come up with the real goods. But i can easily see him writing about this in a 'lol, relateable, im also a tiny bit thick like you plebs, BUT like the clever rebel I am, i got it sorted, guv, FIGHT THE POWER' way.

 

[Calculus]

How do we know this? Olly oversharing?

Of course.

When the final exam results came in, however, all four of us in that class were shocked. We had scored significantly lower on one paper than we had been predicted. It was possible I wouldn't be able to meet the offer St Andrews had made.

Meeting the offer?

I'm not sure if this is still how they do it but in British school in my day in your final years you do what are called A-Levels. You pick 3 subjects (mine were Biology, Chemistry, and Philosophy) and just study them. While you're studying you apply to five universities (four if you do medicine), they might interview you they might not, and then they'll either make you an offer or reject you. The offer is the grades you have to get in your A-Levels (final school exams) in order to go there. St Andrews offered me AAB; so long as I got 2 As and a B, I could go. But when the exam results came in, that looked like it might not happen.

I see, go on…

I remember Howard took me aside and asked me what I had thought of the exam. I said it didn't seem much harder than the other paper, where I'd scored very highly. He chewed his cheek and said, "Right then. Leave it with me."

On the strength of my say so - on the strength of 17 year-old's opinion! - he contacted the exam board and requested that our whole class be remarked. He fought tooth and nail to get us that remark, and lo and behold after some tense weeks the board got in touch and said they'd identified a problem with the marker of that particular paper and the whole class had been bumped up two grades. I was going to St Andrews after all! Howard didn't have to do that for me, he could have just left it, but he genuinely cared what I thought and he trusted my assessment - not because I was a higher rank than him or because I'd given his mate on the rugby team a black eye in a fight - but because he was just nice like that.

This means he must have either received a C or a D. A failure is not achieving an E so he didn't completely fail then, but close enough.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Current tweet-

To celebrate reaching one million subscribers I'll be LIVE tonight at 7.30pm British time. I've got the prosecco chilled and my outfit ready!
(picture of self- same one we've seen before of course, professional shoot, no candids)

I wonder, when the novelty of Abigails Transition™ wears off for the fans, how long its going to take for 'my outfit!' this and 'my outfit!' that, to start to grate as the utter garden variety narcissism that it is?

I think the fans will get sick of it and drop off a long time before he does, and he's run out of 'philosophy' shit to talk about already, and once he completes his alphabet of obvious shit productions...he's gonnadry up within a year, so i'm saying it now;

PTroon WILL start an Onlyfans.
100%. Probably within at most two years - it will of course be couched in an amount of irony, maybe even framed as an 'experiment' or 'project', but yeah.
The feeding is endless. He lost his battle with himself and now he just has to shovel more and more stimulation into the monstrous maw of attention addiction.

 

[Calculus]

Who the fuck is Howard? a higher rank than him? in what, some cadet force shit? hows one of your peers in control of this shit? if it was a teacher, of course they are going to want a better mark for their whole class. weird stuff.
also LOL 'not because i'd given his mate on the rugby team a black eye in a fight' oh yes Olly, im sure people are prone to do favours for people who fight their friends.
Or is this just an excuse for you to show you're hard? Or are you suggesting you are in fact SO hard, that he was scared of you?
lol wtf is this situation.

I forgot to link the article. Howard is his philosophy teacher who gave him chocolate every Friday. It reads like something out of The Secret History:

ABIGAIL THORN — What Is It Like to Be a Philosopher?

www.whatisitliketobeaphilosopher.com

 

[AfghanBlue]

I forgot to link the article. Howard is his philosophy teacher who gave him chocolate every Friday. It reads like something out of The Secret History:

ABIGAIL THORN — What Is It Like to Be a Philosopher?

www.whatisitliketobeaphilosopher.com

reading that, it is quite phenomenal how far he's fallen.
Like, he doesnt talk constantly about himself, despite it actually for once being questions about himself and his life.
Almost a complete personality transplant.
Hmm, maybe he actually HAS fallen. Some head injury shit.

Edit; FUCK ME his ' favourite band' suck though
how does that coexist with all the bowie-self referentiality?