Plymouth shooting: Multiple fatalities in Keyham

IMO I would say it exists if you have major issues like Schizophrenia or major learning disabilities, but does not if you happen to be borderline/undiagnosed. But I'm not really sure what the fix is - as I ended up feeling the "help" was more depressing than just learning to deal with it.

I mean tbf when it comes to depression or anxiety, I think some books are better than the "Therapy" you'll get on the NHS anyway. CBT does work but yes you have to be willing to put in the leg work to fix your shit rather than expecting pills or some magic formula to do the trick. In a best case scenario it might help pinpoint why you have the sadbrains and stabilize you (assuming the side effects are not worse than the original issue) but Therapy often just felt like a vent session with rarely much good advice on where to go from current position.

Mind's approach is a social media service for people who have anxiety issues, which turns out to be mostly people whining about how awful life is and then getting dinged by moderation for trigger terms anyway. Hard to have a happy positive space that helps people when the community entirely consists of people that struggle with that and then encourage each other to wallow in the misery pool with them.
Mental health issues are entire personalities for some people. For example; all the people who claim to be bipolar and post about it online ad nauseum. Attention seeking behaviour like that is also a form of mental illness but one that's symptomatic of too much social media use.

Davisons YouTube uploads seemed like his way to vent and cope. They're not on the same level as say Elliott Roger where you can see the sociopathic madness plainly. I think he held back a lot of his darker thoughts.

He worked construction and lamented his lack of pussy. If he'd have gotten some shit kicker office/call centre job he'd have gotten his dick wet with some office trim and realised life isn't all about the pursuit of china. Although he'd have probably just gone postal anyway upon completion of his love quest when he realised that his life was still just as hollow.

I get offing family and adults, but why did he have to shoot up little kids?

Looks like gun licensing background checks in this country are just as sloppy as in the colonies.
 
the moral of the story when poorly socailized weirdo let the anger out is can be found attractive....by awful people who happen to be woman
Then how the fuck can't IT people get laid when they talk about fucking server issues and retard employees who shove USB sticks they find on the ground and cause a network wide problem?
 
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Dude need some post nut clarity.

Seriously though Fuck this guy and I hope the victims families are ok
 
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british cuisine does things to a nigga huh
 
If you look at twins reared apart studies being spawned from a single mom and deadbeat dad is the problem. You have all their crap traits.
That's putting it all on nature. A child removed from a 'welfare queen' still has a better chance than it they were to remain, right?

The fundamental problem is the feminist belief (the Suzi Leather 'you don't need a man' play) that the disadvantages children from 'welfare queen' family units are the fault of everybody else. It's classic structural marxism.
 
A lot of people are missing why incels do this stuff, why they can't get a GF, etc.

If you look at a lot of their posts, especially this guy's, they tend to coalesce around nihilism. They believe their lives are meaningless, that they have no purpose unless they have a GF. Most of them are atheists, those who aren't have a highly exteriorized and moralistic form of religion that indicates only superficial belief and pure conformism. This causes them a lot of angst that they tend to exteriorize in lieu of sitting down and contemplating existence and purpose.

These guys hyperfocus on external problems rather than making an honest effort to build inner strength, willpower, and social skill, maybe this compounds a little bit with narcissistic superficiality. They earnestly believe women rebuff them because they're ugly, short, overweight, or dorky, so they start "maxxing" things as if real life is an RPG and women are NPCs with some kind of LOOKS check. They'll start "liftmaxxing," "looksmaxxing," and so on. They'll try to look like Chad, they'll buy designer -- equip the highest level gear -- but it always just amounts to making a more perfect turd, since the problem is what's on the inside.

Davison betrays his nihilistic illness himself: "There's nothing really to look forward to as an adult, other than getting rich." "I'm not advocating this, but if I have to I might even try and use drugs to make up for it, maybe cocaine fuelled sex or something, maybe that can make up for that missed teenage experience."

Failing to have any kind of transcendent, interior meaning really fucks a guy up. I remember having a nihilist phase until my mid 20's, and it really puts you in a bad spot internally. It causes all sorts of awful emotions to start welling up, and can turn into contempt and anger for the world. This existential angst is the same thing that caused the goth scene in the 90's. In impulsive and hateful people, like Davison, it becomes outright violence. There are a lot of people like this in the world where "God is dead." The absurdists pre-empted incidents like this, whilst also prefiguring existentialism. There were absurdist mass-killings.

The logic goes as follows: If there is no ultimate and objective meaning to life, then what sense is there in prolonging life, which is only a temporary episode fraught with suffering and comical agitation? A man is as good dead as he is alive, since the grave is his inevitable destiny. Hence, there's an intimate link between nihilism and mass violence. Life is meaningless without permanence, and permanence cannot be found in the cycle of life. If life is meaningless, then so too are other peoples' lives, as it were.

The solution to the incel problem is to beat nihilism. How that's possible is a matter of individual suitability. Religion can work, but it must be genuine rather than externalized. One needs a serious belief in God and must receive grace. The permanence of heaven can destroy any nihilistic embrace of the temporal. But, a lot of incel types are autistic and or hyperintellectual, hence why they get into right-wing political ideologies. I don't think that's because they're attempting to fill the void with politics, they're just inquisitive and divergent thinkers in some cases. Other cases might be explained by Luciferic "nazi villain" psychology, or a kind of psychopathic contrarianism. But in any case, they would have need of something intellective or esoteric. Theology, metaphysics, or an integral occult tradition could be a legitimate source of meaning for them. Buddhism, provided they can understand it properly as an ascetic tradition rather than a devotional religion, would be perfect. One of the aryan truths, Dukkha, which is that the world is suffering due to one's attachment to impermanence, diagnoses the issue. Perhaps even certain kinds of modern philosophy, like Husserl's phenomenology, could help them find some sort of transcendent meaning.

All told, the incel problem has little to do with "mental health" in most cases, but rather, spiritual health. These people are suffering from nihilism and it's causing hateful angst to well up from within, just like it did in the 90's goths and the absurdists so long ago. Finding meaning after the "death of God" is definitely hard, but it's the only way out for them. SSRIs, "maxxing," "a good ol' beating," joining the military, none of that will work, it will just cause them to further resent the world and externalize their inner angst. Incels don't need a beating, they need a book.
 
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Everyone is getting mad over petty shit while i'm just amused that a fucking loser in noguns bongland managed to outdo couch cuck.
Imagine being such a cuck that a britbong cucks you 3x over. Hot damn. This Br*tish bastard hit a kill count on par with elliot rodger FFS. In "oi you got a loisence" Britain.

Many Couches will befall the Cuck in hell tonight.
 
How are bong incels even real. Go to any city center on a friday night and buy the first fat slag you see a kebab from the kebab shop and there's a good chance you're at least getting your dick sucked that night
 
That's putting it all on nature. A child removed from a 'welfare queen' still has a better chance than it they were to remain, right?

The fundamental problem is the feminist belief (the Suzi Leather 'you don't need a man' play) that the disadvantages children from 'welfare queen' family units are the fault of everybody else. It's classic structural marxism.
Were it so simple. But shared environment is pretty weak so you'd be asking good parents to make their kids share them with a delinquent.
 
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Everyone is getting mad over petty shit while i'm just amused that a fucking loser in noguns bongland managed to outdo couch cuck.
Who would you rather be killed by:
Tranny Phantom or an animated bog brush?
 
Were it so simple. But shared environment is pretty weak so you'd be asking good parents to make their kids share them with a delinquent
You see, what you've done there is make a strawman. Why does removing the delinquent mean that another child has to suffer?

And you seem to want to ignore the wider problem of social acceptance of women blaming their poor parenting choices on the rest of society.
 
You see, what you've done there is make a strawman. Why does removing the delinquent mean that another child has to suffer?

And you seem to want to ignore the wider problem of social acceptance of women blaming their poor parenting choices on the rest of society.
What he's saying is that genes have much more impact than environment, or that nature is more important than nurture with regard to behavioral outcomes, which is sort of true. From what I've read, bad parenting can be pretty harmful, but good parenting isn't any better than "bare-minimum-necessary" parenting. A way to think about it is that everybody has a genetic blueprint that, if they aren't abused, becomes expressed fully. If they are abused, it might not be expressed fully or could be altered.

It's kind of up in the air imo. Maybe his mother was insanely abusive, that could have fucked him up. But, if his mother is fucked up, what are the chances he inherited his fuckedupness from his mother, and what appears like an effect of bad parenting is actually just genetic confounding? Dude's probably right, I think he inherited some fuckedupness. I'd go further and say that since the default position in society today is nihilism, he started feeling existential angst, which pushed him to the breaking point. Fucked up philosophy + bad genes.
 
You’ve made a point to stalk users who give ratings that you get upset over. Just noticed your join date barely missed getting a Post Merge badge by a short handful of days. You ever been an active part of a forum which isn’t an incel place or other hug-box? (That’s rhetorical btw)
This thread is weird because reeeeeee…” & “I feel many here…” as well as your borderline to outright stalker behavior over stupid stickers, or dumb jokes cast your way, is getting tired.

You’re possibly just as alright as the next person, so, in spirit of benefit of the doubt, & because it’s not my M.O. to single anyone out on the reg, I’m going to say, point is, if you creep into a place, do shit like you do, plus explicitly do faggoty things like stalk people who aren’t, at all, doing any extraordinary shit towards or near you, I don’t expect anyone is ever going to give 2 shits, let alone 1, about your opinions, (or your “feelings” you keep vomiting all over) except in the basest, most curious sense, as is already happening when people are asking you about incel things, out of morbid curiosity, in a thread about an incel who killed a kid. It’s not about you.View attachment 2446445
Fuck off from the retaliatory moves dude, it’s frowned upon here. As a neutral party even, my point is
lurk moar. Hope to come across a less assumptive, “actually,” asshat, version of you, down the line maybe, once you stop the Serious User routine & get a sense of humor.

There’s loads of different types & varying thoughts here on KF, which is cool & refreshing, & top hats 🎩 or puzzle pieces 🧩 aren’t gonna kill you, unless they are.
Don't corner him. He might do a mass shooting
 
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You see, what you've done there is make a strawman. Why does removing the delinquent mean that another child has to suffer?

And you seem to want to ignore the wider problem of social acceptance of women blaming their poor parenting choices on the rest of society.
Where does the child go that’s better than its subpar parent? Anyway, this is quite an ordeal being proposed on your part. And our society is hostile to parents imo.


It's kind of up in the air imo. Maybe his mother was insanely abusive, that could have fucked him up. But, if his mother is fucked up, what are the chances he inherited his fuckedupness from his mother, and what appears like an effect of bad parenting is actually just genetic confounding?
Very fair summary. I just find it rich to say a MASS MURDERER had a bad mum :(
 
What he's saying is that genes have much more impact than environment
Um, in stuff like diabetes, yeah. But people aren't born to shoot up their families. You're born with a higher chance of having mental illness. But unless you have a mum whose going smoke weed when pregnant with you, or shit like that, the 'the genes made me do it' gag is a bit too hooey for me.

You might as well as believe in predeterminism. Some hyperbole for comic effect.

Also, I think that paying women to be shit mum's isn't a good idea. Or letting the overwhelming female run social services to cover up how damaging their beloved Marxist thunk is. Call me a fascist.
 
Um, in stuff like diabetes, yeah. But people aren't born to shoot up their families. You're born with a higher chance of having mental illness. But unless you have a mum whose going smoke weed when pregnant with you, or shit like that, the 'the genes made me do it' gag is a bit too hooey for me.

You might as well as believe in predeterminism. Some hyperbole for comic effect.

Also, I think that paying women to be shit mum's isn't a good idea. Or letting the overwhelming female run social services to cover up how damaging their beloved Marxist thunk is. Call me a fascist.
There are some people who are just straight up chronic criminals despite all interventions, or who have genes that give them a kind of subclinical psychosis/psychopathy. It's not far-fetched to say that some people are born to kill. There are a ton of murderers and serial killers who exhibited violent behavior from a young age despite growing up in loving and supportive upper class families.

"Gene predestination" isn't actually as fringe as you think it is. There are some researchers who speculate about it and there is a LITTLE BIT of evidence to support something like that. People who look the same and who have very similar genomes tend to like the same things, get similar jobs, and have similar milestones in their lives like getting married at X age or dying at X age from X illness. Monozygotic twins are a well-known example of this phenomenon, they're known to have similar interests and remarkably similar lives, even similar tastes in music and romantic partners when reared apart.
 
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