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How much do you think betterhelp would sell boogie's info for, and who can I contact to buy it?
 
Shaftie said:
How much do you think betterhelp would sell boogie's info for, and who can I contact to buy it?
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you know (((who))) you should talk to, and they won't sell unless you're willing on paying hundreds of thousands
 
stupidpieceofshit said:
I will agree with you that at the very lease the spirit of the law shouldn't allow a small clause in the ToS, if some one wants to go digging more this may (or may not) be of use: https://www.healthit.gov/topic/health-information-privacy-law-and-policy

As far as Fax machines I am going to say its more of 1 ) the cost of encrypted email systems 2) laziness/"too much money" 3) HIPAA what I will call "there was an attempt" loop hole. I have been in offices were the non fax machine was in a common area, and the only way to "prevent" PHI/PII form printing out was to take the paper out, yet this was "okay", as was having non network segerated Windows 2000/2003 boxes that were connected to the internet with PII/PHI in it.

The security of fax machines are bad at worse and debatable at best. If you send an encrypted email if you send it to the wrong email depending on system at lease you can revoke access from the incorrect receiver immediately before damage was done.
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Just to clarify what I meant, there’s significantly less legal bureaucracy with fax machines and snail mail than other methods of communication like email and chats for doctors. That is why many still opt for the fax machine as opposed to using a system with the require encryption. In addition to cost as you mentioned, many are just terrible.
 
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Boogie seems to actually be somewhat of a fan of the Killstream. Boogie1488 redemption arc?
Information on the woman Boogie was hooked up with for his BetterHelp:
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Some information:
  • Boogie didn't make it apparent that he was boogie when dealing with the company -- good move
  • He signed up for a monthly plan of $260
  • He is too fat and lazy to get actual help
  • He will get his manager to see if they can access internal stuff such as the shill panel
  • He presumed the service is safe, doesn't want his conversation with his therapist to be out there... hmmmmmmmm I'd love to have a look
  • He didn't realise that they can sell his personal shit, lol. People still love to think of ToS as a 28734 paged document, nowadays it's just 2 webpages
  • He said if this thing is fucked up, he won't sleep at night because he misled his audience... how about stop doing these sponsored shit?
  • He got an offer of $200 per sign up

I must go now... hope someone else keeps track of the stream.

Mr Care said:
Is this motherfucker advertising NORDvpn while getting exposed for shilling data-miners?
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Giving him the benefit of the doubt since he is currently relaying more information, I think he just either wasn't aware of it or rather indifferent to it -- AI is the future like it or not, everyone does it and there's no stopping it. A massive black pill, just like the 20-inch Jamal that incinerated his ex-wife.
 
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Based on conversations I had I believe in the ponzi-style affiliate marketing system.

If you go to the first post, open any archive link of any YTer who's been advertsing BetterHelp, and then check the URL bar for &utm_campaign=, they will show you who their top-of-the-pyramid referrer is.

I'll pick some at random to show you.

V-Squared https://archive.is/M0mBi
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Kati Morton https://archive.is/rGUBH
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Milo Stewart https://archive.is/oVdjZ
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Laci Green https://archive.is/XaNp9
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Destiny https://archive.is/8cRFN
&utm_campaign=Branded+Entertainment+Network

H3 https://archive.is/fNaOx
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic
 
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Based on conversations I had I believe in the ponzi-style affiliate marketing system.

If you go to the first post, open any archive link of any YTer who's been advertsing BetterHelp, and then check the URL bar for &utm_campaign=, they will show you who their top-of-the-pyramid referrer is.

I'll pick some at random to show you.

V-Squared https://archive.is/M0mBi
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Kati Morton https://archive.is/rGUBH
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Milo Stewart https://archive.is/oVdjZ
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Laci Green https://archive.is/XaNp9
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic

Destiny https://archive.is/8cRFN
&utm_campaign=Branded+Entertainment+Network

H3 https://archive.is/fNaOx
&utm_campaign=InfluenceLogic
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So is phil the guy that has more fingers on the scam pie? Or is it someone else?
 
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So is phil the guy that has more fingers on the scam pie? Or is it someone else?
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Yes. If they're paying the 2nd rung $200 a referral, then the top rung probably earns half that.

InfluenceLogic and Joel Robbison probably make $100 per referral, then whoever they recruit makes $200 per referral, and so on. When you register your account, your referrer is stored.

Joey refers Josh. Joey is Josh's referrer.
Josh refers Danny. Josh is Danny's referrer.

Danny refers Michael. Danny gets $200, Josh gets $100, and Joey gets $50.

So you take every single one of these YTers shilling for this shit with InfluenceLogic at the top and multiply that by $100, and that's probably how much money this spindly faggot has earned feeding unprotected therapy data to the Facebook money machines.

But the YT influencers are actually being paid by the tier-1 in most instances. It's just in the case of Shane Dawson he has referred other referrers.

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(The second attached one contains an error regarding who had the affiliate link going to Boogie.)
 

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(((((EDIT))))) ADDITIONAL FILES ARE ATTACHED (((((EDIT)))))

1) VENTURE CAPITAL AND NAMES OF INVESTORS - CTRL+F AROUND IT
2) SEPTEMBER OF 2017 REPORTS PPT - SHORT, BUT FAIRLY INFORMATIVE

ALON MATAS -- FOUNDER OF BETTER HELP:

FACEBOOK: https://web.archive.org/web/20181003065934/https://www.facebook.com/alonmatas(edited)

Alon Matas' StyleToGO App ---- Pet Project? New Project? Pretty much just a copy+paste of the Better Health format of subscribe, "consult", scam?

https://web.archive.org/web/20181003064813/
http://www.styletogoapp.com/

SPEAKING CONFERANCE LIVE RIGHT NOW 2-4th:::::::::::::

https://vsee.com/conference/speaker/alon-matas/

https://archive.is/RN8Kh

TELADOC AQCUISITION OF BETTERHELP circa 2015:::::::::::::

https://web.archive.org/web/20181003071124/

https://www.crunchbase.com/acquisition/teladoc-acquires-betterhelp--4d8d5d6c

BBB Site Link to BetterHelp::::::::Time to get Kikey

https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/sunnyvale...ral-service/betterhelp-1216-262454/complaints

https://archive.fo/1GUSa

ADDRESS ON BBB.COM ---- GOOGLE MAPS IT TO --->>>>>>

https://www.plugandplaytechcenter.com/

https://archive.fo/nTxa5

MASSIVE TECH COMPANY [DATA COLLECTION?]

But wait... There's Jews.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/K...6c63d71f5763c!8m2!3d37.3835693!4d-122.0128687

http://ci-cc.org/

https://archive.fo/5yPQA

http://ci-cc.org/committees-p/?com=Big Data/SaaS/cloud&po=28

https://archive.fo/UwLAW

This is literally a massive data collecting agency ran by Silicon Valley Jews...................

They're housed in the exact same building that CICC is, but get this shit --------

http://ci-cc.org/committees-p/?com=Cyber Security&po=31

https://archive.fo/VgHxh

"Big (((((DATA))))) and Cloud"

__I think i can make the link__

https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacapplbaum/

https://archive.fo/d2BJL

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/california-israel-chamber-of-commerce#section-current-team

https://archive.fo/cZWI4

CICC is in the building with tech companies that ALL HARVEST DATA
Isaac Applbaum is on the board of CICC
Isaac "Yitz" Applbaum runs MizMaa Ventures ___

http://www.mizmaa.com/companies/

https://archive.fo/qyxR5

AI OUT THE ASS

https://www.orcaai.com/technology

https://archive.fo/58wwc

https://allegro.ai/index.htm#keeplearning

https://archive.fo/hBNDP

@Null ---- I'm a newfag when it comes to archiving. Baby Bitch-tits' first internet autistic weaponization.

(((((((((((((possible alternate rabbit hole that involves marketing to kids)))))))))))) ----------

https://www.commonsensemedia.org/app-reviews/yakit-kids
https://archive.fo/Nu57l



 

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Memology 101 said:
I am sorry, but at first, nobody knew shit, and it was and is an ongoing investigation, a joint effort between me and my viewers, finding information and so on.
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Don't apologise, It was just my perspective and for all I know I'm being retarded, just let us know if I can help in anyway as I've disbanded the idea of making a video because of all the attention it's already getting. I've archived as much content as I can so if you're missing anything as well, let me know
 
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DeeplyFlawedMan said:
Does anybody know whether or not Shane was offered this promotion before he started working on his latest series? How far back does this organisation go with youtubers?
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as far as 2013

Mr Care said:
Don't apologise, It was just my perspective and for all I know I'm being exceptional, just let us know if I can help in anyway as I've disbanded the idea of making a video because of all the attention it's already getting. I've archived as much content as I can so if you're missing anything as well, let me know
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I feel bad for the series, don't get me wrong. The editing could improve and having a 9 part shit does down on me. I just wanted to make sure to get word out as fast as possible to make sure people had this knowledge before using the service.

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How the fuck did they dig their slimy hooks into everyone so damn quickly?
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Jacksepticunt said YouTube hooked him up with Kati Morton. YouTube has ties to the campaign.
 
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IIRC Teladoc is a publicly traded company that has nearly $2 billion in value and "acquired" Betterhelp in 2015. while no doubt there is a bunch of crossover, Teladoc is likely where you are going to find the majority of spin offs where each shares management and officers with each other in order to attract investment and either be sold or acquired and boost the parent company's stock. this isn't an unusual circumstance as long as certain procedural and regulatory rules are adhered to.

why am i aware of this? because in my investment club it was circulated that the Scientologists are seeing them as major competition in the existing online-therapy market and they want to break into it with their own initiative.
 

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wes said:
I'd just like to put in my two cents regarding their practices. I'll use therapist as a broad term so I don't have to write out an alphabet soup of certification/degree acronyms.

It's not unheard of for therapists to outright tell a patient that they are not the appropriate professional for them, but this is usually in the case of people who don't bother to listen to or apply what the therapist is saying. You'll see this a lot with kids who are forced into seeing someone after a guidance department recommends it and well-meaning parents go down the list of professionals covered under their insurance until they find someone who is accepting new patients. Same with the more dramatic of personality disorders; they'll tell you about how they're following what the therapist suggests, but will return the next week to wail about the same issues because they are too stuck in their behaviors to actually change. People who will not follow what the therapist suggests are wasting their time, their therapist's time, and the time of someone who would actually benefit from therapy. Another thing to consider is that certain illnesses respond better to certain treatments, like DBT being more effective for Cluster B personality disorders than the traditional approach of CBT.

This, of course, is not how this scam is approaching people they know they can't pull the wool over on.

What also strikes me as odd is that $35/week is touted as more affordable than most therapists out there. While private practices will usually hand you a bill upwards of $100 per session because most insurances don't cover them, there are actual clinics with actual professionals out there for both therapy and psychiatry I know with co-pays as little as $25/week. $35 might be on the cheaper end of payments, but it certainly isn't the deal of a lifetime.

Letting your insurance know about receiving treatment is important, especially in regard to chronic disorders. If your insurance can see that you have a history of issues, they may be more willing to review prescriptions or treatments they normally would not consider to pay for. (Keyword may, however) Then there's the tax aspect, which I don't have enough knowledge to go into regarding deductibles and their ceilings. There are pros and cons obviously, but when dealing with something as chronic and severe as mental illness, I think having your insurance clued in is important. While non-consenting admittance to psychiatric wards may be a huge signal to an insurance provider, it certainly is not cheap in both the short and long term.

Watching Memology's videos were very interesting, though around the 5th video the special effects turned from an alright gimmick to almost giving me a migraine. (An informational video should not look like a teenager's first go at Sony Vegas.) Watching the people advocating for Betterhelp gave me the impression that I could probably recreate the list of talking points given to them by the company. Most, if not all, people shilling this scam barely came off as genuine to me. But, I can see many kids who don't really know what therapy should look like and what it entails thinking this is the real deal. When children are at arguably the shittiest end of the mental health industry, in my opinion, it brings down how important seeking out therapy can be to a person who genuinely wants to better themselves.

EDIT, accidentally hit reply too early: This is diving into conspiracy levels, but Scientology runs a similar style of claiming privacy, though ultimately having literal rooms of dossiers filled with people's history, secrets, and even fake memories they were cajoled into believing happened. Scientology makes use of these dossiers in the form of leverage to make sure dissidents either stay in or stay quiet if they manage to escape from the cult. I don't see Betterhelp pulling an act like this, but I thought I'd mention it.
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I use Filmora. I got carried away with the wormhole transitions.

Also I was planning a 10th episode, but you guys are covering it so well.
 
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Boogie1488 said:
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/app-reviews/yakit-kids
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"Parents need to know that YAKiT Kids makes kids' safety and creativity a priority. No personal information is requested or collected. There are no in-app purchases or ads. There's not even an option to share their adorable creations via social media or email through the app. Creations can be saved to the camera roll and shared outside of the app, though"
Why the fuck would you need to make this huge as fuck disclaimer when all your app does is poorly edit photos of your children??
 
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Memology 101 said:
I use Filmora. I got carried away with the wormhole transitions.

Also I was planning a 10th episode, but you guys are covering it so well.
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In my opinion if you're going to make anymore on this topic, have it being an over arching video covering everything up to this point, get someone to do voice for ya (who knows, null might) and just try to summarise the key points in a sharp, concise manner with a decent script. ezpz
 
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