2 Weeks to Flatten the Curve

[Whetherwon]

Right or wrong the doxes are this place's achilles hill.

This is it. No one wants to hear it, but I'm enough of a normie to know how normies think and this is it. No one really gives a shit that people are mean to trannies on here. They care about the doxing. Doxing means that Kiwifarms opponents can argue that the site puts people in physical danger. I guess it's tradition or whatever but it's a fucking stupid hill to die on. And I believe that it's LITERALLY what is killing this site.

Now please give me all the top hats, for I am truly MATI.

 

[lolwatagain]

Yes lol?

Why are we currently talking on a dial-up onion whatever? Because of swattings and "imminent threats of violence" were used as justification. Those accusations couldn't have been lodged without doxes all over the place here. I'm not making a value judgement, just stating the obvious.

You're talking about "imminent threats of violence" that were posted on a completely different site.

It's not like if the Doxes went away, the accusations would vanish. Doxbin exists. Google exists. Users are not limited to the content of a single website.

They aren't calling us terrible people because we're reposting information that they willingly posted on the internet. They are calling us terrible people because we laugh at them, mock them and criticize them for the retarded things they post online.

The truth doesn't matter, because people are unwilling to take the time to determine what the truth is. They'll figure that someone at MSNBC, Washington Post, or some other other "legitimate" rag put that time in. As long as you have scumfucks using that illusion of legitimacy to spread lies and bullshit, nothing will change. You'll be regarded as evil, because they said so. Not because people are dumb, but because people are lazy and feel like their time is spent on better things.

How many people do you think would use Twitter if they knew that it was full of pedophiles buying Child Porn from people claiming to be Children? Or the doxing and targeted harassment? You could bring this up to any normie Twitter user, and they'll probably stare at you like a goldfish. They'll think it can't be the worst fucking place on the internet, it's "legitimate". It's a publicly traded company, Wendy's posts funny tweets there.

The problem is that "legitimacy" has become a shorthand for truth. It shouldn't be.

 

[nym]

Those accusations couldn't have been lodged without doxes all over the place here.

You really think that?
You think that if we just never posted an address or a telephone number here but just made long threads making fun of insane people these accusations couldn't be lodged? I'll admit it would make the accusations less likely...

 

[cultural_marks]

At some level, ending up where we are was as inevitable as it was unthinkable 6 short years ago. Deplatforming has become an industry. Originally it was assembled to deal with a movement that could legitimately be called fascist. Later, as the trump movement morphed into more or less a far-right anti-government movement, the machinery was already there to be wielded against it. Kiwi farms is none of the above. IIRC Marjorie Taylor Greene has been calling for deplatforming the farms too. Fuentes prefaced his opposition to deplatforming the farms with whining profusely about his own thread on Kiwi farms...This is or could be a real turning point. Null seemed to hint that this is how general wrongthink will be dealt with from now on. It suddenly sounds like a very reasonable thing to think.

 

[AnOminous]

Yes lol?

Why are we currently talking on a dial-up onion whatever? Because of swattings and "imminent threats of violence" were used as justification. Those accusations couldn't have been lodged without doxes all over the place here. I'm not making a value judgement, just stating the obvious.

The only "threat" was against every poutine shop in Belfast. How the fuck did that have anything whatsoever to do with dox?

 

[PixarsTedKennedy]

The worst part is that I don't even give a shit about Fatrick or Keffals. I'm here to read about Chris and KingcobraJFS. Maybe laugh at some BenTheLooney from time to time.

 

[DaBigBopper]

The entire thing is odd to me. I've been on vacation (I got fucking roasted, got too much sun and am nursing a sunheadache and hangover), but throughout this whole thing there has never been a court order to anyone. At most it's been brigading companies with vague TOS or ethics violations that is supported by bitching on Twitter or through MSM. At no point has the troon squad showed up with a court order, they've simply bitched and bellyached. I've seen schizo theories that the Chinese Crimson Chin is using Lucas as a puppet or that one fat Weekend Warrior troon is bankrolling it. It does make sense because $100,000 is a lot to fundraise for someone who is effectively a fat communist who barely breaks 25,000 on twitch.

What really gets me is MTG being swatted. MTG pissed off a lot of people, including troons and AF. I think Null actually needs to be assertive on this because you have a bunch of people pulling shit that's been getting done over the years all the time. There are falseflags, false narratives, and false facts being spun about everything. You effectively have to have someone go on the attack or you're gonna crumple like Warski.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Yes lol?

Why are we currently talking on a dial-up onion whatever? Because of swattings and "imminent threats of violence" were used as justification. Those accusations couldn't have been lodged without doxes all over the place here. I'm not making a value judgement, just stating the obvious.

Those things happen 200 times more on twitter every day. Hell, even knockout.chat has a problem with their users constantly getting banned for advocating violence, MORE than here. And those accusations were baseless, and you know this. Baseless accusations BY DEFINITION have no basis in fact. So they would still levy them even without doxes.

At the end of the day, even if there never were ANY doxes on the site, we would STILL be in the same situation. The clearnet will no longer allow you to speak ill of those who hold the societal power. Thems the breaks. Time to gear up for the long haul. Any site that is not kosher according to the twitteratti WILL be attacked until it's taken off the clear net, doxes, no doxes, doesn't matter.

 

[CervixHammer]

well, as long as they know that they are fat and I would not have sex with them.

 

[AnOminous]

Those things happen 200 times more on twitter every day. Hell, even knockout.chat has a problem with their users constantly getting banned for advocating violence, MORE than here. And those accusations were baseless, and you know this. Baseless accusations BY DEFINITION have no basis in fact. So they would still levy them even without doxes.

At the end of the day, even if there never were ANY doxes on the site, we would STILL be in the same situation. The clearnet will no longer allow you to speak ill of those who hold the societal power. Thems the breaks. Time to gear up for the long haul. Any site that is not kosher according to the twitteratti WILL be attacked until it's taken off the clear net, doxes, no doxes, doesn't matter.

I can't believe anyone is even with a straight face saying "but if we appease them with this one thing then they'll leave us alone and all the normies will love us!" How the fuck does anyone think that at this point? Seriously?

 

[PoopyFarts]

The worst part is that I don't even give a shit about Fatrick or Keffals. I'm here to read about Chris and KingcobraJFS. Maybe laugh at some BenTheLooney from time to time.

I'd never even heard of Keffals before this. I came here purely to lol at Lucas Werner. A fat middle age weirdo from Spokane who thought his semen, when combined with Gen Z pussy, would create the next evolution of humanity.

I never particularly liked the troons, but I'd never considered paying attention to them until this.

 

[UmQasaan]

Right or wrong the doxes are this place's achilles hill.

If doxxing bothers Ameritards so much why don't they actually find out why their data is public instead of going for what people are just gathering of which is available? I mean it's pretty obvious that some entity sells and distrubutes their address, phonenumber, email , etc. Why not try to find out who and go after them?

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

This is it. No one wants to hear it, but I'm enough of a normie to know how normies think and this is it. No one really gives a shit that people are mean to trannies on here. They care about the doxing. Doxing means that Kiwifarms opponents can argue that the site puts people in physical danger. I guess it's tradition or whatever but it's a fucking stupid hill to die on. And I believe that it's LITERALLY what is killing this site.

Now please give me all the top hats, for I am truly MATI.

Oh god I just realized I misspelled heel somehow. I have to fix it, how embarrassing.

 

[Spergerella]

I don't get the hysteria over doxing. Isn't that essentially what they do to -Karens- who spazz out in public? They are recorded with a cellphone, then that video is posted to social media, within minutes they are identified, named and their location/place of work is posted. That's okay, but doxing a grooming tranny isn't.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

You really think that?
You think that if we just never posted an address or a telephone number here but just made long threads making fun of insane people these accusations couldn't be lodged? I'll admit it would make the accusations less likely...

It'll be harder to make those accusations stick, yes. I don't see how that is debatable.

 

[nym]

IIRC Marjorie Taylor Greene has been calling for deplatforming the farms too.

I know Rekieta got Tim Pool to directly talk to MTG about KF and how she was being retarded. I have no idea what came of that, though, but I assume she stopped campaigning against KF.

 

[Sithis]

Another unpopular idea: doxing should be bannable. And "doxing" should be defined as posting phone numbers and information of where people live (IMO calling them to get them fired from their jobs is fair game since that's the left's favorite tactic). The phone number, address, social security number etc doxes don't add to the humor and even if it's not illegal it makes people in other places on the internet hate us.

Fuck that. People deserve to know if these sick grooming fucks are near them and sending bathtub brew hrt to their kids, and more importantly than that, it won't change a thing. The only people who are even paying attention to this are the tech companies cowtowing and the troons screeching. Most normies don't give a shit, and that wouldn't change just because we play nice and don't document the pedos - after all, too many of us say nigger and other "mean" words.

To sanitize the site to make it approachable to normies would essentially require a total overhaul of everything, not just doxing. And TPTB that are pushing for this, ie the former glowies, don't give a withering shit about the troon drama either. They want this place down because it's an easy test case to allow them to further censor the internet, and if anyone challenges it, "oh well see X Y and Z sites were all hate sites that said no no words like niggerfaggot" when in reality it's more about closing the loop on the whole net.

I can understand Josh's frustrations, and if he decides to pull the plug that's up to him. But these people will not stop. It is not about Josh, or the Farms, or any one thing. They want absolute control over free speech on the internet, they want to be the gatekeepers who decide what is acceptable, and the people pulling their strings and funding these efforts know they'll be useful enough idiots to keep pushing for it without ever noticing they're heading for the pot as well. Kiwifarms is just the most convenient place to start for them but they absolutely will continue this crusade and if they're not stopped it will irreparably damage the internet as a medium of free communication.

 

[Barry McKockner]

I can't believe anyone is even with a straight face saying "but if we appease them with this one thing then they'll leave us alone and all the normies will love us!" How the fuck does anyone think that at this point? Seriously?

It's like they haven't seen this story play out 100 times already. Placation never works, period.

 

[Sweetened Condensed]

People who don't know about KF conclude we're scum when it becomes known that we're doxers. It also lends credence to all of the other terrible, false things they say because people don't like doxers. We can't stand alone against the whole world, we need to become more popular. Not popular with everyone but to stop being regarded as the worst scum on the internet is essential.

why are you the author of every bad take ive seen in the last 24 straight hours

 

[AnOminous]

It'll be harder to make those accusations stick, yes. I don't see how that is debatable.

So no more Russell Greer or any legal cow threads, because all their legal documents have their "dox" in them. No more "Ethan Ralph claims to be a baller but here's his real house and he lives in a slum." Basically nothing that makes the site a repository of actual information. Why even bother having the site at that point? Just shut it down. That will get rid of any "Achilles heel."