2 Weeks to Flatten the Curve

[nym]

It'll be harder to make those accusations stick, yes. I don't see how that is debatable.

I didn't debate that. I said exactly that.
You are the one who said that they could not be made. I debate that.

Even trolls should be judicious about whose information they spread and specifically what information is spread, determine if it's worth it and justifiable, but I do think it's absolutely retarded to declare "we need to ban doxing".

 

[Doppio Vinegar]

Today, I warmly embrace having genitals that I don't need to dilate.

 

[siegemeister675]

No lol. Nobody truly gives a shit about doxes. People give a shit when they think the wrong people are doxed. Dox the supreme court justices on twitter or an anonymous twitter user in a news article and you're just exercising your right to free speech. Dox a cow who makes it their life goal to be internet famous and all of a sudden doxing is such a HUGE problem.

This is true but the culture is hostile we can't expect fairness.

 

[lolwatagain]

why are you the author of every bad take ive seen in the last 24 straight hours

He has to live up to the Pink Triangle seal of QUALITY.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Phoneposters get fucked.

Nah just if you use chrome you got fucked I'm able to use it on Tor and I do hope it goes back online to the clear net and can do in-house DDos protection. It's pretty obvious we need Clearnet access but with our own DDos protection that we use and archive.

Because it's pretty clear currently relying on others won't work and the farms needs to have one that's in-house. Perhaps we can lease it out to stormfront, 8 chan and many other people who operate on the gray side of the internet.

 

[PixarsTedKennedy]

I'd never even heard of Keffals before this. I came here purely to lol at Lucas Werner. A fat middle age weirdo from Spokane who thought his semen, when combined with Gen Z pussy, would create the next evolution of humanity.

I never particularly liked the troons, but I'd never considered paying attention to them until this.

I'll have to check out the thread on this Lucas Werner fella...while I still can...

 

[Bob's Vagene]

It won't work.. but we should try.

 

[lolwatagain]

This is true but the culture is hostile we can't expect fairness.

Oh man, you're almost there.

You almost understand Null's posts and articles.

We don't need fairness. We need business partners and service providers with fucking spines.

 

[siegemeister675]

I think he's saying he'd rather have nothing than a defanged and bitch made site and I have to agree. We've been through too much to cuck.

If we're still able to say "nigger", "faggot", "troon" and "retard" and we can still make fun of anyone we haven't "cucked." Real talk, besides facilitating retards doing illegal things what humor value does the doxing add?

 

[Skuntank]

Fuck that. People deserve to know if these sick grooming fucks are near them and sending bathtub brew HRT to their kids, and more importantly than that, it won't change a thing. The only people who are even paying attention to this are the tech companies cowtowing and the troons screeching. Most normies don't give a shit, and that wouldn't change just because we play nice and don't document the pedos - after all, too many of us say nigger and other "mean" words.

To sanitize the site to make it approachable to normies would essentially require a total overhaul of everything, not just doxing. And TPTB that are pushing for this, ie the former glowies, don't give a withering shit about the troon drama either. They want this place down because it's an easy test case to allow them to further censor the internet, and if anyone challenges it, "oh well see X Y and Z sites were all hate sites that said no no words like niggerfaggot" when in reality it's more about closing the loop on the whole net.

I can understand Josh's frustrations, and if he decides to pull the plug that's up to him. But these people will not stop. It is not about Josh, or the Farms, or any one thing. They want absolute control over free speech on the internet, they want to be the gatekeepers who decide what is acceptable, and the people pulling their strings and funding these efforts know they'll be useful enough idiots to keep pushing for it without ever noticing they're heading for the pot as well. Kiwifarms is just the most convenient place to start for them but they absolutely will continue this crusade and if they're not stopped it will irreparably damage the internet as a medium of free communication.

Lucas and his goons are NOT the status quo for this site. Most thread subjects on this site are lolcows that are not a real danger to those around them. They are simply retards who are funny to laugh at.

And I must repeat. It says it on the fucking registration page.
We. Are not. An autistic vigilante group. The most we should be doing on this website is compiling incriminating evidence against those kinds of people. Then it should be Josh and for almost any thread only him to make an executive decision to contact the responsible authorities.

 

[siegemeister675]

What do you mean "how much intimate information we're willing to publis?" The stuff published is freely supplied by these dumb shits. This is more of a repository of the retarded shit they put online themselves. Especially the keffals situation. Nobody went elite hackerman on this idiot. They just put all their faggotry in a centralized location and made fun of them.

Your justifications are just spergy bullshit. It doesn't matter what justifications you come up with, and again it doesn't matter that it's legal (many, many people erroneously think it's illegal) the doxing makes people hate us who might otherwise be sympathetic or not care. We're trying to win public opinion, not an argument here.

I can't believe anyone is even with a straight face saying "but if we appease them with this one thing then they'll leave us alone and all the normies will love us!" How the fuck does anyone think that at this point? Seriously?

No one's saying either of those things retard. We're saying if we stop the doxing keffals and co won't be able to whip up the moral panic to nuke us everywhere, and we'll go from absolute scum of the earth to mere bottom feeders, which would be a significant improvement in reputation. Can you explain what comedy value the doxes actually add?

 

[AnOminous]

Then it should be Josh and for almost any thread only him to make an executive decision to contact the responsible authorities.

And how would you enforce that? Anyone who saw the info could pick up the phone and drop a dime and nobody would be the wiser.

No one's saying either of those things retard. We're saying if we stop the doxing keffals and co won't be able to whip up the moral panic to nuke us everywhere, and we'll go from absolute scum of the earth to mere bottom feeders, which would be a significant improvement in reputation. Can you explain what comedy value the doxes actually add?

Fuck off you pink triangle dumbshit, if I wanted shit out of you I'd squeeze your head.

 

[Sithis]

Lucas and his goons are NOT the status quo for this site. Most thread subjects on this site are lolcows that are not a real danger to those around them. They are simply retards who are funny to laugh at.

And I must repeat. It says it on the fucking registration page.
We. Are not. An autistic vigilante group. The most we should be doing on this website is compiling incriminating evidence against those kinds of people. Then it should be Josh and for almost any thread only him to make an executive decision to contact the responsible authorities.

That's funny because just about every one of the people involved in this shit have a history of pedo shit, zoo shit, or some other depraved fetish.

Maintaining the dox isn't about "muh vigilantism" and you're failing half the test if your stance is "well clearly if dox is posted that means people here will/must act on it". No one is saying to do gayops contacting authorities I'm saying that it's important to have this info accessible - especially considering some of the creepiest of the group haven't been officially charged despite their clear proclivities so they don't pop up on sex offender registries etc. - so that people can be aware, not so they can do gayops.

 

[lolwatagain]

Your justifications are just spergy bullshit. It doesn't matter what justifications you come up with, and again it doesn't matter that it's legal (many, many people erroneously think it's illegal) the doxing makes people hate us who might otherwise be sympathetic or not care. We're trying to win public opinion, not an argument here.

>implying people will even visit the website to see if the claims that we dox people are true.
Nigga, nobody's even doing the bare minimum amount of research to figure out that Julie Terryberry was not trans. They will just accept whatever bullshit claims retards spew as the truth.

 

[siegemeister675]

So no more Russell Greer or any legal cow threads, because all their legal documents have their "dox" in them. No more "Ethan Ralph claims to be a baller but here's his real house and he lives in a slum." Basically nothing that makes the site a repository of actual information. Why even bother having the site at that point? Just shut it down. That will get rid of any "Achilles heel."

You can blank out the home addresses and phone numbers in the legal documents. And yes in that one case with Ralph you lose some comedy value but it's worth it not to have Jersh teetering on the edge of fucking insanity and the website banned on the clearnet.

>implying people will even visit the website to see if the claims that we dox people are true.
Nigga, nobody's even doing the bare minimum amount of research to figure out that Julie Terryberry was not trans. They will just accept whatever bullshit claims retards spew as the truth.

You're wrong. People hear "doxers" and they turn their logical brains off. If we took that away from them they would have literally no true accusation to throw against us. What comedy value do the doxes add?

 

[Bell Peppers and Beef]

So while you guys keep on coping and doom-posting, I took a peek over at the sister site to find something interesting. Throw me alarm clocks my way if late, hell the mods are free to delete this post if it goes against the featured content's message. A certain Blaine Gaven Ross claims to be responsible for swatting Marjorie Taylor Greene via a threatening robo-call, whilst falsely claiming to be @AltisticRight. Make of that as you wish. Another countless example of an unhinged lolcow going haywire with power.

EtA: Post / Archive

 

[LeChampion1992]

I can't believe anyone is even with a straight face saying "but if we appease them with this one thing then they'll leave us alone and all the normies will love us!" How the fuck does anyone think that at this point? Seriously?

It is quite simple what happens with people. They believe that one side is legitimately being sincere. I mean most people are tolerant of LGBTQ people most people don't hate minorities but sadly most are forced to bend a knee and humiliate themselves.

 

[lolwatagain]

You're wrong. People hear "doxers" and they turn their logical brains off. If we took that away from them they would have literally no true accusation to throw against us. What comedy value do the doxes add?

>"People hear 'doxers' and they turn their logical brains off."
>People who hate that we're pointing out their retardation would never lie about us doxing them if we stopped.

My god you are being so fucking retarded right now.

 

[Sithis]

You're wrong. People hear "doxers" and they turn their logical brains off. If we took that away from them they would have literally no true accusation to throw against us. What comedy value do the doxes add?

The people making these accusations against us have shown they have absolutely zero qualms about not only lying, but with fabricating evidence against us. What the actual fuck do you think is going to change about the narrative when it's already been taken so far out of bounds?

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I didn't debate that. I said exactly that.
You are the one who said that they could not be made. I debate that.

Even trolls should be judicious about whose information they spread and specifically what information is spread, determine if it's worth it and justifiable, but I do think it's absolutely retarded to declare "we need to ban doxing".

Nowhere did I say we should ban doxing. I did say twice that my comments were making no value judgement. The ethics of doxing are tricky and for me depend on the circumstances. Doxing the Youtube communist begging for superchats while living in a multi-$million home(s)? Cool. Doxing a nobody who happens to have a bad take on something for no other reason than a "I know where you live now!" intimidation flex? Not cool. But that's just me and I don't make that call. I guess if you allow one you have to allow the other? Not sure, the ethics of doxing are tricky.