2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[AnOminous]

Do these warnings ever hold up in court? You can't prevent someone from sharing an email they recieved without prior comunication, right?

In general, no, with the exception of national security letters. As flagrantly unconstitutional as they are, we can thank the 9th Circuit for the last ruling holding them constitutional.

Nobody else can send you a letter unilaterally imposing confidentiality, though. You can tell them to fuck off.

 

[Bassomatic]

You fucking mad man.

It's sad we feel such a victory and so shocked someone telling another country their laws don't effect other nations and to respect the most basic freedoms is some how shocking and offensive.

You're a crazy mother fucker, and i say to you and will speak on behalf of all kiwis.

Oh captain, my captain.

 

[Broken Calendar]

Do these warnings ever hold up in court? You can't prevent someone from sharing an email they recieved without prior comunication, right?

Im far from an expert on Kiwi law but from what I could find section 50 refers to the following

50 Unlawful possession of Police property
(1) A person commits an offence who, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse,
has in his or her possession any Police property.
(2) A person who commits an offence against this section is liable on conviction to
imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months, to a fine not exceeding
$2,000, or to both.

Im guessing that unless you got unauthorized access to an email (which would be a crime in the states and im assuming in NZ) they might hit you with that as well. Otherwise im guessing in most cases people would get off under section 1. The only other exception that I could think of would be if the email contained sensitive information (i.e not known to the public) regarding an investigation. God knows why you would send that via email to someone whos identity you cant confirm but im guessing it would be theoretically possible but then again god knows how NZ laws work.

 

[drain]

I still laugh at people who thinks having IP adresses and emails mean shit. As if they could go after every single user here, with only this info who can be easily faked with vpns and false emails.

 

[Colonel J]

null is so baste pls notice me and take my updoots

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

I'll say this, man, you've got balls of steel.

 

[eldri]

Will definitely consider what you have said.

This is definitely a new random_text.txt

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

I look forward to lurking and occasionally shitposting in the future New Zealand subform, assuming these mongs are actually stupid enough to pursue this after Daddy Null gave them such a spanking. I always thought it would be Sweden, but New Zealand seems to be the dark horse in this race.

 

[Space.Muffin]

"I feel sorry for your quiet contry but also FUCK your shithole country"

"Thanks. I will think about that"

Damn, Null scared all the legal process out of him.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

this kind of delusion really doesnt reflect well on their police dept.

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

First few days here and all this happens, well rock on Null you crazy mad man.

 

[An Ghost]

happy st paddy’s day null. You must be feeling lucky.
This is 100% an intimidation/fake DCMA/Vordy tier threat. Do not expect to hear from this man again.

I still laugh at people who thinks having IP adresses and emails mean shit. As if they could go after every single user here, with only this info who can be easily faked with vpns and false emails.

Or that the police and courts would actually bother putting dozens on trial and sentencing them for a decade. Having a bunch of trials with severe sentences is a great way to play the video down. Instead of addressing actual crimes like responding to a shooting in a timely manner.

 

[Null]

I still laugh at people who thinks having IP adresses and emails mean shit. As if they could go after every single user here, with only this info who can be easily faked with vpns and false emails.

If you are in NZ and are using your domestic ISP they absolutely can figure out who you are.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

So in NZ, police can think 1s and 0s that make up email they send is "police property?"

 

[eldri]

I still laugh at people who thinks having IP adresses and emails mean shit. As if they could go after every single user here, with only this info who can be easily faked with vpns and false emails.

It doesn't matter if they identify someone accurately. It is to make examples out of people. To set precedence.

 

[Kamov Ka-52]

Kiwi PD on suicide watch.

 

[Gigasneed]

This is 100% an intimidation/fake DCMA/Vordy tier threat. Do not expect to hear from this man again.

Even if it is fake, there is still a very real NZ government perfectly willing fuck over the first person they find to make an example. NZ posters should definitely take their internet security very seriously after this.

 

[drain]

If you are in NZ and are using your domestic ISP they absolutely can figure out who you are.

Yeah, and I'm sure they already tried looking into it, but I don't think we have many kiwis who are from NZ, luckily.
It's just the fact they think they have power over citizens from other countries that makes me laugh

 

[Shady Attorney]

Good..good...
Let the autism flow through you

 

[KOVALSKY]

FUCK THE POLICE :')