2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[JosephStalin]

Both Waco and RR had the government alleging that they had weapons the government didn't authorize them to have, which proved true.

If it weren't for that, Randy Weaver and the Waco people would not have been shot at.

For example, there's a huge Scientology complex out in Riverside County that restricts members' movement while indoctrinating them incessantly and forever. If asked, those people will uniformly say they are following their faith and creed, and are happy doing that. The FBI looked into this in 2010 and concluded that nope, they can't do anything.

ETA: The FBI apologized because their person took kill shots at unarmed combatants and/or used otherwise insane amounts of force. They do that less, but if they did decide to do it, saying that someone had amounts of bump-stocked, scoped, silenced, pistol gripped ARs would provide the best cover.

Frankly, I do not see why people think that ARs/AKs specked out with bump stocks, pistol grips, high-end scopes, silencers etc. will get the government to back off. The government has SWAT units of 7-12, all with better firepower. They can get helicopters. Drones. Full-autos. Tanks. And them having a reasonable case that you have a couple illegal spec'd out ARs is the best ammunition they have to go after you.

A thought. The idea of a few people with illegal weapons doesn't scare the US government, or for that matter any government, as much as the idea of a few people, or even one person, with computers and hacking ability. The person or people with some illegal weapons are little or no threat outside the range of their weapons. The person or people with computers and hacking ability can pose a much larger, much more severe threat. Some will say the government has cyberwarfare specialists. True, but for every measure there's a countermeasure. And I wonder about some of the government's cyberwarfare specialists. Case in point:

USAF Major Arrested in the Case of His Missing Wife - Law Enforcement Today

A USAF major was arrested Sunday in connection to his wife’s disappearance after police said they found suspicious items inside their Texas home.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

To be sure, this major was probably not a hands-on cyberwarfare specialist. Most likely he was a division chief within the unit. But people like him are supposed to be the cream of the crop, carrying out a vital, 24/7/365 mission. Sure doesn't give me a warm fuzzy.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I get that. People will defend themselves against the government if it violates their rights. But can you give an example of that happening ? Or did the US government never violate the right of the US people ?

So the second amendment was already useful before it even existed.

No, they sure as hell don't appear to. But again if that's what the American people want who the fuck am I to say they should do otherwise, I don't live there.

Battle of Athens (1946) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Chew on that son.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

During the run-up to the Iraq war after 9/11, US ISPs with or without the blessing of the government blocked Arabic news sites, pretty sure Al-arabiya was among them at the time. That was before the Patriot Act, even. People would get on London-bound flights and be amazed at the copies of British newspapers calling out GWB for being a crusading asshole and, especially, calling out the pro-Israeli stance/people who had a lot to do with it.

So, since then, the US government has appeared to take a back seat while letting Silicon Valley drive. The government shuts down most TV towers because cable, DVD recorders no longer work but you get HD, what you really need is Alexa or really Google Home. RIAA puts up with extensions that let people download songs off YT or off the regular Internet while making sure they see lots and lots of ads. Tor, torrents /bitcoin become entrenched as something only drug dealers/CP/terrorists would use. If you got kicked off Twitter/FB/Reddit/WordPress etc., you must be one of those marginal people society should avoid. Because, let's let Silicon Valley drive, because it'll do so on behalf of the establishment, and it'll keep our "safe spaces" safe.

Now, SV is thinking that because they were too "lenient" w/social media that resulted in people electing Trump when in fact a lot of that was Americans being fed up with being told what to think. A public that is increasingly reliant on their platforms.

You're misremembering. But it's basically right. I don't reember if Al-Arabiya was blocked before the Iraq War (the 3rd gulf war), but I think I remember Al-Jazeera was. Al-Arabiya wasn't blocked (in Canada at least, during the start of the Afghan War, everything happened too quickly).... But The Patriot Act came in well before. It was weeks after 9/11 that the US went into Afghanistan (does anybody even remember that the Taliban said they had OBL and offered to turn him over to the Hague, but not the US?)....

It was days after 9/11 the patriot act came in, and maybe a month before the AFghan War. It was probably a year and a half to two years before the Iraq War. ICBATG, though.... Google is our friend, but I'm too lazy, but your mixing conflicts.

 

[HG 400]

Point taken, but the laws on the commoner were often so stiff and most people so poor any random guy with a weapon of military grade ordinance was exception rather than rule most of the time

Also not true, weapons were dirt cheap and plentiful. In northern Europe it was practically expected for all free males to own swords, in eastern Europe peasants carried long-handled battleaxes as walking sticks. In England it was mandatory to own and regularly train with the warbow. Societies that relied heavily on militias and levies tended to want their people armed. The cultural differences between America and the rest of the world in this regard don't go back very far and have more to do with America still relying on militias and irregulars when the constitution was written.

 

[GethN7]

Also not true, weapons were dirt cheap and plentiful. In northern Europe it was practically expected for all free males to own swords, in eastern Europe peasants carried long-handled battleaxes as walking sticks. In England it was mandatory to own and regularly train with the warbow. Societies that relied heavily on militias and levies tended to want their people armed. The cultural differences between America and the rest of the world in this regard don't go back very far and have more to do with America still relying on militias and irregulars when the constitution was written.

You're right, now I think about it, I own myself for an ass for being wrong on this.

 

[UY 690]

Not to go off topic but Infowars is going to do a live stream on their website about the censorship of our tech giant overlords.

It's gonna be related to the New Zealand shooting and how now New Zealand wants the world to now ban hate speech. Let's see how this goes before the world turn to crap.

Also, they wanna pull an EU where the world's internet will be censored hard. So given so many things are happening today and many days. And if they do censor the internet?

Well......

Replace this with killing the internet will cause Anarchy around the world. Now that is how we blackpill the world. So do it world. Censor the internet worldwide.

 

[nonperson]

Can we get back to discussing Shithole Countries?

I'm glad you asked.

• Even 8Chan founder agrees that the Internet has gone too far, and self censorship is just not quick enough:
  
  

  Founder of 8chan, one of the internet's darkest corners, expresses regret following Christchurch mosque shooting

  Fredrick Brennan admits 8Chan has gone too far.

  www.nzherald.co.nz

• Everybody loved the prime minister's leadership, except for a solitary subhuman who dared criticize her accent:
  
  

  Christchurch mosque shootings: Sam Newman slammed over remark about Jacinda Ardern

  Former AFL star sparked outrage on both sides of the Tasman for criticising PM's accent.

  www.nzherald.co.nz
  We must defame him for his crime:
  
  

  The disgusting past of former AFL star Sam Newman who slammed Jacinda Ardern

  After he was slammed by thousands, former AFL star doubled down.

  www.nzherald.co.nz

• The tax payer will fork out 100mil to buy back rifles from gun owners, a sound investment into self cuckery:
  
  

  Christchurch mosque shootings: Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says assault rifles and military-style semi-automatics banned

  PM signalled gun laws changes after Christchurch terror attack.

  www.nzherald.co.nz

• The saga just wouldn't be complete without a feminist making an article about white privilege, implying that it somehow contributed to the shootings taking place:
  
  

  Brodie Kane: 'I am white and privileged ... It's time to make big changes'

  COMMENT: I can no longer live the privileged life I live, Brodie Kane writes.

  www.nzherald.co.nz

• Showing this is ok, because the gunman didn't film it himself:
  
  

  Christchurch mosque shootings: CCTV footage: Gunman's drive-by shots during attack, pedestrians take cover

  A pedestrian dived for cover after alleged gunman shot from his car during massacre.

  www.nzherald.co.nz

• The police is so incredibly incompetent, they charged the gunman for murdering A LIVING PERSON, with 50 bodies to choose from:
  
  

  Christchurch mosques gunman mistakenly charged with shooting live person

  Police say they will own the mistake of charging the alleged Christchurch mosque shooter with killing the wrong person.

  www.stuff.co.nz

• Bernie praises the prime minister for her swift ban on guns, vows to do the same (I guess nothing new in America):
  
  

  World reacts to New Zealand's new gun laws after Christchurch terror attacks

  US presidential candidate Bernie Sanders applauds PM Jacinda Ardern saying: "This is what real action to stop gun violence looks like."

  www.stuff.co.nz

• Oh my, could this be an article about how we're being shortsighted by embarking on this ideological jihad?
  
  

  Christchurch mosque shootings: Are we as open minded as we think we are?

  The attacks have forced us to challenge our assumptions — about ourselves.

  www.nzherald.co.nz
  "We can't pretend this was an aberration from overseas. The truth is it happened here, and it began with hate speech allowed to grow online,"
  Nope.

After having effectively outlawed anything that isn't positive towards Islam, it's now time for the witch hunt to begin. It's worth noting that all of these occurred after 'complaints were received':

• A doctor gets stood down because two years ago he posted on an Internet forum, about how he thought it's not a good idea to let in mass amounts of muslims without properly vetting the jihadikins among them. He also suggested that multiculturalism doesn't work very well. He has 3-4 decades of experience, but who wants to be treated by Hitler's favorite nephew, amirite?
  
  

  Christchurch mosque attacks: Auckland doctor stood down over anti-Muslim comments

  The doctor's employer has launched an internal investigation.

  www.nzherald.co.nz
  "The posts are still online." - the article reads, to the echoing sneers of triggered zealots.

• A realtor drops 2 agents "Following complaints about their recent social media posts that disparage Africans, Muslims, multiculturalism and Māori culture,". Their extremist drivel included shocking statements, such as "This [documentary about african IQ average] is politically unpalatable but it is supported by science." or "How can any one after viewing this possibly think Islam and Sharia does not and will not present a threat to any non Muslim nation."
  
  

  Ray White real estate agents removed over racially charged Facebook posts

  Ray White has parted ways with agents who distributed racially inflammatory content.

  www.nzherald.co.nz
  "Multiculturalism is and always was a doomed dogma - he wrote in another post in October 2018." A thought criminal, if I ever saw one.

I think I hear the police knocking.

 

[AnOminous]

I think I hear the police knocking.

This is exactly what the shooter wanted because what he did is what people do when discussion is over.

 

[N836BA]

the tax payer will fork out 100mil to buy back rifles from gun owners, a sound investment into self cuckery:

Some gun expert on the radio estimated there were about 1.5 million guns in New Zealand, although they really don't know exactly how many there are. They could only do $100 per a gun at that rate. Let's give a conservative number even 200,000 guns would only be $500 per gun. Guns aren't cheap, they better be offering good money for them otherwise that buyback is going to be mighty unpopular.

 

[Buzz Killington]

The NZ police has a dedicated gay 24 hour ops team:

‘If somebody is raped, no one complains they didn’t see the footage’

If you’re sharing or spreading footage of the Christchurch attack, there is a small team of digital detectives on your case.

www.news.com.au

 

[JosephStalin]

Some gun expert on the radio estimated there were about 1.5 million guns in New Zealand, although they really don't know exactly how many there are. They could only do $100 per a gun at that rate. Let's give a conservative number even 200,000 guns would only be $500 per gun. Guns aren't cheap, they better be offering good money for them otherwise that buyback is going to be mighty unpopular.

That's if the gun owners even choose to sell their guns back. Since guns aren't registered, some may choose to just keep their guns, just hidden.

 

[AnOminous]

The NZ police has a dedicated gay 24 hour ops team:

‘If somebody is raped, no one complains they didn’t see the footage’

If you’re sharing or spreading footage of the Christchurch attack, there is a small team of digital detectives on your case.

www.news.com.au

Hey shithole country digital detectives, suck my fucking dick.

 

[AltisticRight]

Can't even access the site from Rooland without a tor browser.
When these dumbass kiwis aren't fucking sheep, they are either killing sandniggers or selling their land to Chinks.

Shithole country for the shithole human. I guess that's what racemixing with abos do to you.

Fuck you and your censorious laws. Eat a goat dick you sheepshagging fuckwits.

 

[Juggernaut1977]

Full retard status achieved.

https://www.theunshackled.net/rundo...dV7O4JJyDs1yAbJuW5def7k2oMXCZRW6dIIVZoGHC9z4I

 

[TheChivalrysOath]

I hate the overwhelming support for this ban. If people feel safe with guns it should be their right to have them.

Can't even access the site from Rooland without a tor browser.
When these dumbass kiwis aren't fucking sheep, they are either killing sandniggers or selling their land to Chinks.

Shithole country for the shithole human. I guess that's what racemixing with abos do to you.

Fuck you and your censorious laws. Eat a goat dick you sheepshagging fuckwits.

Australians shouldn't be punished or censored. This is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Coccxys]

There actually is a kiwifarms.nz site for... New Zealand farm exports. I stumbled across it at the start of this shit show. It has been taken offline. I feel sorry for those guys for the amount of shit they probably got over this media narrative.

Way back machine version:

Kiwi Farms

web.archive.org

And now:

Kiwi Farms

www.kiwifarms.nz

 

[Male Idiot]

There had been ways around the no weapon tradition. Hungarian peasants usually carried a walking stick with an attachable axe head hidden in a pocket.

Also while I support the 2nd amendment US needs it more as this time, since unless you fuck with the maffia, common criminals usually only have knives.

It would be good id we could conceal carry though. Never give it up americans.

 

[AnOminous]

There had been ways around the no weapon tradition. Hungarian peasants usually carried a walking stick with an attachable axe head hidden in a pocket.

Also while I support the 2nd amendment US needs it more as this time, since unless you fuck with the maffia, common criminals usually only have knives.

It would be good id we could conceal carry though. Never give it up americans.

Farmers generally needed things to cut crops and perform other legitimate functions, which were also often easily converted for combat use. Most pole arms at least started their lives as some kind of farm implement, although many evolved into use primarily as weapons.

 

[Pixy]

selling their land to Chinks.

I'm pretty sure they passed laws against foreign nationals buying NZ properties.

 

[DoTime]

I had to become a kiwi after I saw the reply, thanks for having me, fags