ActuallyBPD / ActuallyNPD / ActuallyASPD - People with mental disorders who think expecting them to be nice is ableist

[LazarusOwenhart]

I tend not to get too involved in these threads as these people make me genuinely angry rather than amused (for powerlevel reasons) and anger isn't why I come to this forum but here's my two cents:
Pretending to have a mental illness because it's 'cool' is the ultimate in low hanging fruit as far as attention seeking goes. Its the easiest thing in the world to fake as it has no outward symptoms other than acting like an insufferable cunt. Anybody cowardly enough to fake these symptoms for asspats needs to experience actual hardship as genuine sufferers of these conditions struggle every god damned day just to survive. People who live with sufferers of real mental health problems have to watch as people they love are inexplicably torn apart. I'm lucky, the person I know had a good outcome, many people don't.
Pretending to have these conditions is tantamount to pretending to have cancer. It's a despicable and deeply disgusting act designed to manipulate the emotions of the persons friends and caregivers and anybody who engages in it deserves to live a lonely life.

 

[DatBepisTho]

I'm glad that MDD and other forms of depression aren't en vouge anymore.
I mean clearly low self-esteem and crying over every little thing when untreated is the norm for the crowd, so it makes it impossible to get that needed attention.

Can't imagine they have many friends other than other attention seekers with those 'tudes and labels, tho.

 

[Lunete]

Mental illness is not cool.
Mental illness does not make you quirky or interesting.
Mental illnesses are real problems that affect millions of people and it's not a fashion trend.
If you fake a mental illness to get attention then you are an asshole.

 

[Goku Black]

*stabs a person*
dont u know i have a mental illness??? i literally cant help it

 

[Kuwomi]

The ones who actually talk about how abusive they are are the grossest to me. And they never wanna seek out help either or else they might get a little better and lose their tumblr cred.

 

[cuddle striker]

I honestly think the cluster b disorders should not be considered mental illness. Beyond the early stages they're pretty much untreatable, there's little we can do to stop them from acting like shits, and any discussion about them attracts them like flies.;

Yes, narcissism is repulsive. Yes, sociopathy means you are unlikable. and yes, Virginia, BPD means you're a soul-sucker.

that section of the dsm needs ripped out. only the mildest cases have any hope of leading non-harmful lives, to others even more than themselves.


Threads about them attract them. And they will never forget who it was that didn't pay enough attention, who said bad things about them. Sociopaths not so much but narcissists and borderlines always remember any slight and magnify it with clarity and recall, forever, at a moment when they want to lash out.

if you want an example of discussions about this being like flame for the moths, check out Sa.m Vak nin, (improper spelling as he constantly Googles himself) - a complete waste of oxygen who likes to pontificate about himself, because everyone cares what a narcissist thinks.


Also self diagnosis of these disorders is one of two things:

a response to PTSD that the person is in denial about
or
yeah, they've got the shit, don't catch their cooties.

be careful not to mix up real mental illnesses with cluster b personality disorders. bipolar can be treated or managed, as can schizophrenia, depression, and the rest.

personality disorders deserve a stigma, as they're destructive to other people. People with actual mental illness are more likely to be victims of crime than to commit it.

EXCEPT cluster b. their statistics are exactly the opposite. They're not sick. They're assholes.

 

[cuddle striker]

Checked the actuallybpd tag after long time and it has actually some good posts about taking responsibility of your shit and how other people don't owe you everything just because you are ill. Better than last time I checked the tag.



To be realistic lot of personality disorders of B cluster are caused by traumatic experiences of some kind and commitment to therapy does make difference. Tho unfortunate some do not seek help and some do, but managed already cause suffering for others due not understanding their constant flipping was some ass of a disorder. This stuff isn't some impossible to cure, but usually starts as some illness like depression and it takes times to figure out it was personality disorder when the puzzle pieces click together and get treatment for it.

those would be the ones I said "have PTSD and are in denial". if it's treatable, it's more likely trauma based PTSD than an actual personality disorder.

here's something interesting, too. people with a cluster b, can bring out symptoms of personality disorders in people who don't have one. once the asshole is gone, the person with (usually BPD), if they get treated for PTSD, they don't have those symptoms anymore.

it's why I say they shouldn't be considered mentally ill. that classification puts them in contact with more vulnerable people who really don't need that shit around them.

Looking for a pervasive, life long pattern of behavior is important with these as a diagnosis. almost all cluster b types claim they've been treated poorly by lots of people, will lie, so it's hard to figure out. trauma causes similar symptoms to BPD, but not to the others. people with ASPD and NPD will claim abuse that never happened.

something hilarious about the Tumblr posts is people claiming multiple illnesses. a lot of these are diseases of exclusion- if you have BPD, you don't have NPD. they'll only diagnose one.

same way they won't diagnose depression in a schizophrenic- schizophrenia has passive, negative symptoms that can look just like depression, but it's not that the person has two separate illnesses.

there's a certain utilitarian approach to mental illness now too. it's less a concern about your label and more a concern about how to treat your actual symptoms as a whole. it means that they want you in treatment for your symptoms and only slap a diagnosis on to get your insurance to approve a medication or two.

 

[Cripple]

The ones who actually talk about how abusive they are are the grossest to me. And they never wanna seek out help either or else they might get a little better and lose their tumblr cred.

They concern me because if they don't have a genuine personality disorder they're in danger of meeting a genuine unapologetic psychopath who gets them to do something heinous because of the insecurity and gullibility that got them to self-dx in the first place. If I was a predator I couldn't imagine a better hunting ground. Just imagine if Manson or Bundy had had access to tumblr.

If they do have a disorder they are not seeking help and are unconcerned with harming others. I was only being slightly facetious about the "future serial killer" remark. A lot of these sound like Gacey or the Green River Killer in interviews.

(Yes serial killers are a hobby of mine.)

 

[Android raptor]

BPD has such a ridiculously high cooccurence with having been abused, particularly sexually abused, that some psychologists have hypothesized it's actually a form of PTSD. While it's difficult to treat DBT has been proven to be effective with it, it's also been observed that symptoms tend to lessen in severity as a patient ages. The other cluster B disorders I don't know as much about, other than most people with NPD never seek treatment due to the nature of the disorder and I don't think it has nearly the corolation with being abused that BPD does.

Of course this has fuckall to do with a bunch of kids on tumblr who almost certainly don't actually have these illnesses and are just sticking themselves with labels as an edgy fashion statement and excuse to get away with being bratty little shits. Real people with BPD wish more than anything they didnt have it since it's a living hell, there's a reason 10% of people that have it ultimately kill themselves. It really is like pretending to have cancer or leprosy or some other horrible disease that causes immense suffering for shits and giggles.

 

[cuddle striker]

They concern me because if they don't have a genuine personality disorder they're in danger of meeting a genuine unapologetic psychopath who gets them to do something heinous because of the insecurity and gullibility that got them to self-dx in the first place. If I was a predator I couldn't imagine a better hunting ground. Just imagine if Manson or Bundy had had access to tumblr.

If they do have a disorder they are not seeking help and are unconcerned with harming others. I was only being slightly facetious about the "future serial killer" remark. A lot of these sound like Gacey or the Green River Killer in interviews.

(Yes serial killers are a hobby of mine.)

modern serial killers are online. I'm sure there's plenty on Tumblr.

 

[Cripple]

modern serial killers are online. I'm sure there's plenty on Tumblr.

If my kid had shown me this tag as one girl said she showed her parents she would have been banned from using the internet until she was 18+ (as much as possible, phone and home access be cut off at least) and in psych counseling. Too many people underestimate who you can run into online.

 

[Android raptor]

I want to add that AFAIK personality disorders can't be diagnosed until someone is over 18. The reason being that the brain is still developing in childhood and symptoms in a minor could very well just be stuff associated with age-typical drama and immaturity that'll clear up on their own when they reach adulthood. So any of these kids who claim to have these disorders yet are under 18 are 100% full of shit, especially if they claim to have been professionally diagnosed.

 

[cuddle striker]

I

oh that's so narcissistic
/sneed

 

[PT 404]

Oh joy. Another group of people who will contribute jack shit to humanity's growth as a species.

 

[cuddle striker]

I want to add that AFAIK personality disorders can't be diagnosed until someone is over 18. The reason being that the brain is still developing in childhood and symptoms in a minor could very well just be stuff associated with age-typical drama and immaturity that'll clear up on their own when they reach adulthood. So any of these kids who claim to have these disorders yet are under 18 are 100% full of shit, especially if they claim to have been professionally diagnosed.

the childhood diagnoses that end up as preconditions for PDs are ODD and behavioral disorders. you have to have some of those symptoms as a kid to get the pd rating as an adult later. ODD is usually just rebellion though, that the parents want to medicate out of existence.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Ultimately it's just another step in the mental illness arms race. Kids claim a mental illness to feel special, then everyone else claims to have the same mental illness, so a new, more special mental illness must be found.

 

[Android raptor]

the childhood diagnoses that end up as preconditions for PDs are ODD and behavioral disorders. you have to have some of those symptoms as a kid to get the pd rating as an adult later. ODD is usually just rebellion though, that the parents want to medicate out of existence.

A lot of ODD kids are also kids in abusive or otherwise toxic situations lashing out, which I guess can be a precursor to BPD at least since as I mentioned there's a ridiculously high correlation between bpd and having been abused.

That said most tumblrinas seem to be kids in more or less healthy, if not boring situations looking for an excuse to be bratty that's also trendy. It's actually not new behavior at all, I remember back in the day on dA and MySpace you'd see tons of kids claiming to have mental illnesses they blatently didn't. The exact conditions that are in vogue have varied (back when it was usually bipolar and schizophrenia, not personality disorders) and social justice bullshit hadn't yet gotten drawn into it, but the same shit was still going on.

 

[Leveilleur]

From what I understand splitting isn't anything like this and I see so many posts to this degree where being upset or angry at someone equals splitting. I'm not even sure what splitting means anymore. (Phone posting and getting used to the farms so I hope this pic uploads fine this way.)

 

[mdrop22]

The self diagnosis tag is pretty funny too

 

[m0rnutz]

The self diagnosis tag is pretty funny too

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Actually, you can grow out of autism to an extent. You adapt and relearn your behaviors and become a functioning adult.

The ones who don't *coughChrisVadeZachcough* are the ones who are forever autists.