@Android Raptor Hate Thread

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If 15 year-olds are post-pubescent, are they adults?
low- and middle-income countries (LMICs)

The average age at which the onset of puberty occurs has dropped significantly since the 1840s.[75][76][77] In every decade from 1840 to 1950 there was a drop of four months in the average age of menarche among Western European females. In Norway, females born in 1840 had their menarche at an average age of 17 years. In France, the average in 1840 was 15.3 years. In England, the average in 1840 was 16.5 years. In Japan, the decline happened later and was then more rapid: from 1945 to 1975 in Japan there was a drop of 11 months per decade.

A 2006 study in Denmark found that puberty, as evidenced by breast development, started at an average age of 9 years and 10 months, a year earlier than when a similar study was done in 1991. Scientists believe the phenomenon could be linked to obesity or exposure to chemicals in the food chain, and is putting females at greater long-term risk of breast cancer.[78]

"Boo hoo, pregnant niggers die often on a diet of flies."

False equivalency again. Post-pubescent doesn't mean adult and I never implied it did.
 
But there is a comparison to a novel that features fags and all other minorities brutally murdered.
Your argument is that written fiction about killing fags is as bad as pornographic drawn imagery of children, which may also include explicit violence?

It's hard to even imagine, but there's a hentai genre called gore, and I'm sure some sick fuck out there has combined it with loli. You think that imagery is equal to some dry text about killing fags? Seriously? And that should be protected...?

Except that's not quite the case. I'm sure there are people chomping at the bit to ban Berserk. Works like that have been banned in the past.
If anyone wants to ban Berserk then it's probably over other factors, not his backstory of abuse. Anyway, I doubt an impartial judge would not see the difference.

Also, what works like that have been banned? None to my knowledge.

Yet people like you are still aware of who he is and what he did, and just how common people like him are in conservative religious communities.
Source? It's extremely uncommon amongst conservative Christians, but it's quite common among libtards, especially LGBT, like the 7 shitskin libtard fags who raped toddlers that you ignored.

There probably weren't even 7 such marriages to kids in the last year, yet fags did much worse than marriage to kids much younger, all in one day.

And you can say the exact same thing about the Turner Diaries, especially since it's just as connected to real world crime as lolicon is. Including some of the most infamous terror attacks of the past 40 years.
How is Turner Diaries connected to real world crimes, that's like saying Doom was connected to Colombine, which I said earlier but you ignored.

I'm OK with obscenity being banned, but the US judicial system tends to permit "freedom of expression" with a broad brush in rhe defence of First Amendment principles. I agree with you in principal. In practice, you have to look at countries that actually ban shit to see what a mess it makes and what it goes hand in hand with. Look at the UK, Dubai, Australia, the UAE

EDIT: and Canuckistan as AR pointed out^^, fuck that shithole.
I understand free speech principles are important, but there does need to be a limit. In certain times and places we restrict certain speech already, it's not absolute.

As one of many examples, swearing at a judge in a courtroom can result in contempt of court, your speech is literally limited. If you can't even tell a judge he's a retard then I don't see why loli can't be restricted. We should just bring back common sense.

Loli isn't actual CP, so banning it sets a very problematic precedent.
Of course, it's orders of magnitude less bad, I've never suggested otherwise, but as a society we still have an obligation to ban and condemn it.

You really think gay men are marrying minors?
No, I think they're more predatory in general, not marrying specifically.

Do you think 15 year-olds can consent to sex with adults?
They can't even consent with other minors. There was some stat from the UK that minors there commit 18 rapes per day or something crazy like that, and they were certainly only counting minors forcing themselves upon others, otherwise those already high numbers would be much higher.

It's bad enough the terms like grooming and gaslighting basically mean nothing at this point.
Grooming still means exactly what it meant, you just don't like people calling out drag queens for grooming toddlers.

But if they're completely post-pubescent, why is pregnancy and giving birth riskier for them than women in their 20s?
I'm not a biologist, but I'd assume it's because growth continues, not puberty specifically, but I'm just assuming.
 
It's hard to even imagine, but there's a hentai genre called gore, and I'm sure some sick fuck out there has combined it with loli. You think that imagery is equal to some dry text about killing fags? Seriously? And that should be protected...?
Yeah it's called the Tumblr Gravity Falls fandom. If you don't think it's protected speech and should be illegal, you should bring it to the Supreme Court.

I think fictional imagery many child abusers have and enjoy is comparible to a novel many terrorists had and enjoyed and specifically cited. Including ones who murdered LGBTQ people like the London nail bomber.
 
Of course, it's orders of magnitude less bad, I've never suggested otherwise, but as a society we still have an obligation to ban and condemn it.
I agree with you, but practically speaking would it be banned on a Federal level? State level? Local level? Library by library?

If it is banned on a Federal level, what would be the statute or case precedent? Does one exist?

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Your argument is that written fiction about killing fags is as bad as pornographic drawn imagery of children
"Blood Meridian" has explicit descriptions of murdered babies and child rape. Does it fall into the ban category?

(Unrelated point - it's a historical novel about the Glanton gang. I researched the subject. It turns out the reality was WORSE THAN THE NOVEL. John Joel Glanton was the devil incarnate.)
 
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If you don't think it's protected speech and should be illegal, you should bring it to the Supreme Court.
Maybe, but this is the Android Raptor hate thread, not the SCOTUS hypotheticals thread, and I'm hating on you for thinking it should be legal.

I think imagery many child abusers have and enjoy is comparible to a novel many terrorists had and enjoyed. Including ones who murdered LGBTQ people like the Lomdon nail bomber.
I disagree. Imagery depicting kids raped, tortured, and killed for the sexual gratification of the worst kind of degenerates is a little more bad than some written fiction about killing fags.

I agree with you, but practically speaking would it be banned on a Federal level? State level? Local level? Library by library?

If it is banned on a Federal level, what would be the statute or case precedent? Does one exist?
Since it's not a pressing issue as there is no direct victim involved, I suppose banning it on the state or local level would suffice.
 
this is the Android Raptor hate thread, not the SCOTUS hypotheticals thread, and I'm hating on you
you realize this is just going to earn you another write-up in the fanfic thread

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Imagery depicting kids raped, tortured, and killed for the sexual gratification of the worst kind of degenerates
please address my point about "Blood Meridian" because I'm genuinely curious what you think
 
I disagree. Imagery depicting kids raped, tortured, and killed for the sexual gratification of the worst kind of degenerates is a little more bad than some written fiction about killing fags.
Child rape is awful but I'm not sure it's worse than brutally murdering people in terror attacks (including children, since a number of McVeighs victims were children). They seem pretty equal in terms of awful IMO. It's like trying to argue whether the Belgian Congo Genocide or the Holocaust is worse.

The Turner Diaries was written by a white supremacist to titulate people who thought the actions depicted in the book were a good thing. Plus I'm sure a decent percentage of the target audience are pedos given how common noncery is amongst wignats.
 
You didn't answer my question. Are "post pubescent 15 year-olds" adults?

Shit if we're defining menarche as the end of puberty, does that make 9 year-olds that start their periods post-pubescent?
Hey cunt you completely ignored my last post about your argument on how some humans are born killers/pedos yet you think pitbulls are not.
 
Child rape is awful but I'm not sure it's worse than brutally murdering people (including children, since a number of McVeighs victims were children).
In real life? I agree, if the target is an innocent person. In fiction I disagree, there's a reason they can get away depicting murder pretty easily in media but not sex, we more strictly restrict depictions of the latter, even if it's consensual adults.

Look at GTA: San Andreas, it was taken off store shelves and rated Adults Only instead of Mature, all because a hidden and inaccessible sex minigame between two consenting adults existed in the code. Of course, you could murder all you like and it was fine.

The Turner Diaries was written by a white supremacist to titulate people who thought the actions depicted in the book were a good thing.
Debatable unless the author explicitly admitted as much. The aforementioned hentai is unambiguous in its intent.

you realize this is just going to earn you another write-up in the fanfic thread
please dont
 
"Blood Meridian" has explicit descriptions of murdered babies and child rape. Does it fall into the ban category?

(Unrelated point - it's a historical novel about the Glanton gang. I researched the subject. It turns out the reality was WORSE THAN THE NOVEL. John Joel Glanton was the devil incarnate.)
Blood Meridian was not made to titillate sickos and be used as masturbation material like your friends favorite japanese cartoons.
 
Blood Meridian was not made to titillate sickos and be used as masturbation material like your friends favorite japanese cartoons.
Neither was Kaze to Ki no Uta.

The Turner Diaries was meant to titulate sickos though.
Debatable unless the author explicitly admitted as much. The aforementioned hentai is unambiguous in its intent.
The author was an open white supremacist that openly believed white people should violently conquer the planet. It's just as unambiguous as lolicon.
Look at GTA: San Andreas, it was taken off store shelves and rated Adults Only instead of Mature, all because a hidden and inaccessible sex minigame between two consenting adults existed in the code. Of course, you could murder all you like and it was fine.
Which was stupid since the game was already M rated and the scene wasn't all that graphic.
 
Blood Meridian was not made to titillate sickos and be used as masturbation material
I don't know about that, dude - when was the last time you talked to an English Lit major?
I must've missed it, I only scanned the last half a dozen pages or so. I'm not familiar with it anyway, so elaborate if you can.
"Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy is widely considered in academic circles to be the one true Great American Novel. It's a partly fictionalized account of a gang of contract scalp hunters in the last days of the frontier, 1860s or so.


Some of the descriptions of violence are absolutely appalling for their vividness, including descriptions of slaughtered babies and a 9-year-old girl who is gruesomely violated and murdered. It's a lot to take in. What makes the novel important in most estimations is the metaphorical and metaphysical ideas that McCarthy incorporates.

The fact remains that at the center of the novel is the aforementioned child rape, a defining act in depicting the character of Judge Holden. It's not described in detail, but it's written in such a way that you understand everything that happened.

Just curious where this falls in the discussion.
 
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