Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Kermit Jizz said:
I mean maybe some points I agree with them, but I don't know what "anti-vax" really means. I don't believe in any sort of general medical mandates and I don't want to take the covid vaccine. I think there are people who have it in their best interest to take it, and I am up to date on most other vaccines. I don't know what that makes me in your eyes, I don't consider myself part of any group or side on this issue.

I think you spend too much time in the anti-vax community watch, there's a lot more shades of gray on this topic.
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Then yeah, you're anti-vax. You're saying you know more about this than doctors and medical scientists and that the vaccine is more dangerous than covid itself then, which is not true in any sense for any age group.

Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Nobody is trying to save my life. I already had your joke plague (and I had it long before getting the jab).
Spoiler alert: It ain't shit.
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My grandpa used to drunk drive every night, never got into an accident. I guess by your logic, drunk driving is totally safe. My aunt survived cancer, therefore, you are saying cancer is no big deal.

Polio only had a paralysis and death rate of 0.5%. I guess you're saying polio was no big deal, too. And you wonder why we make fun of you anti-vaxers.

It's cute how you still think it's just about you. It's also about helping reduce the spread to help reduce the toll it's taking on hospitals and such. Then again, considering you don't believe in the concept of herd immunity and can't handle math involving percentages, it should not shock anyone that you are inept at logic and science
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
You're saying you know more about this than doctors and medical scientists
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"If the Secretary of Defense says we need to invade Russia, and you disagree with invading fucking Russia, then you must think you know more about how to fight a war than the SecDef."
"I don't want to fight a war with Russia."
"Listen, denier of the experts. There is no way we can win this war against Russia if you keep insisting you know more than the SecDef."
"I never said I know more, I said I disagree that we should be fighting a war with Russia!"
"Why do you think you know more than career military officers?"

Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
It's cute how you still think it's just about you.
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Yet the fact you expect me to participate would seem to suggest otherwise.
 
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mr.moon1488 said:
>you'd better have some evidence to back up your claims
Why? I'm not the one demanding other people do anything.
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Badungus Kabungus said:

Just gonna leave this here, I'll come back to harvest cope from the usual suspects later.
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I'll "cope" using the very article you've provided:
But experts say the trend probably stems from statistical “biases” — the nature of the people who have been getting tested and who most frequently were exposed to the virus — and definitely not some strange quirk of immunization.

In essence, they suggest that people who are vaccinated are more likely to seek a PCR test for employment and other reasons — and more apt to be exposed to COVID, skewing the statistics as the Omicron variant spreads rapidly.
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And past research on other diseases suggests it’s likely that people already vaccinated simply have a greater inclination to get tested if they fall ill, said Dr. Peter Jüni, scientific director of Ontario’s COVID science-advisory table.

“It’s their health-care seeking behaviour,” he said. “People who get vaccinated are more likely to access health care.”

Loeb agreed, saying a greater proportion of the vaccinated are almost certainly seeking out tests in the first place.
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Until provinces imposed new lockdowns after the onset of the Omicron variant, the vaccinated were putting themselves at greater risk of exposure to the virus, Jüni noted. That’s because their status allowed them to attend restaurants, gyms and theatres that required vaccine passports.

“This was not a problem in the pre-Omicron era when Delta and the previous variants were reasonably well controlled with distancing, capacity limits and casual mask wearing,” wrote Deonandan. “But Omicron changed all that. The vaccinated are now almost as vulnerable as the unvaccinated in becoming infected with Omicron (though much less severely).”
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The text I've bolded for emphasis is the most important point to draw from the article; the vaccinated still are far less likely to be seriously ill from Omicron.

Also, quite an interesting point about those who have been boosted:
And in one province where the data are available, people who have received a third, booster dose have a lower rate than the unvaccinated of testing positive.
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So give your social worker a call and get her to make your appointment for your first vaccine; since the immunity provided after being fully vaccinated won't wane for quite a while, you probably be at a similar situation as the boosted regarding antibodies.
 
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Fuck It We'll Do It Live said:
I'll "cope" using the very article you've provided:



The text I've bolded for emphasis is the most important point to draw from the article; the vaccinated still are far less likely to be seriously ill from Omicron.

Also, quite an interesting point about those who have been boosted:


So give your social worker a call and get her to make your appointment for your first vaccine; since the immunity provided after being fully vaccinated won't wane for quite a while, you probably be at a similar situation as the boosted regarding antibodies.
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Do you understand the definition of "cope" you fucking spaz?
 
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Fuck It We'll Do It Live said:
I'll "cope" using the very article you've provided:



The text I've bolded for emphasis is the most important point to draw from the article; the vaccinated still are far less likely to be seriously ill from Omicron.

Also, quite an interesting point about those who have been boosted:


So give your social worker a call and get her to make your appointment for your first vaccine; since the immunity provided after being fully vaccinated won't wane for quite a while, you probably be at a similar situation as the boosted regarding antibodies.
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Thanks for the first cope harvest.

Don't forget that being "seriously ill" from Omicron is about as dangerous as having a bad cold unless you're an obese bloboid.

Point is that no matter how the "experts" try to cope and try to make excuses so they don't have to say the words "negative efficacy" out loud, the numbers don't lie.
 
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Fanatical Pragmatist said:
"If the Secretary of Defense says we need to invade Russia, and you disagree with invading fucking Russia, then you must think you know more about how to fight a war than the SecDef."
"I don't want to fight a war with Russia."
"Listen, denier of the experts. There is no way we can win this war against Russia if you keep insisting you know more than the SecDef."
"I never said I know more, I said I disagree that we should be fighting a war with Russia!"
"Why do you think you know more than career military officers?"
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I forgot, you Republicans think that despite being uneducated simpletons you know more about a virus and vaccine than 99% of doctors and scientists.

Which is hilarious considering you don't even know what herd immunity is and thought all covid vaccines were mRNA until I pointed out that wasn't the case.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I forgot, you Republicans think that despite being uneducated simpletons you know more about a virus and vaccine than 99% of doctors and scientists.

Which is hilarious considering you don't even know what herd immunity is and thought all covid vaccines were mRNA until I pointed out that wasn't the case.
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Hey what kind of animals usually live in herds?
 
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PumpkinSpiceBitchMeringue said:
It's hilarious how you go from "Listen fellas, I'm REALLY open minded", to immediately start slinging ad hominems with "The 'ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS AN ANTIVAXX HITLER LOVING MAGA QTARD' a child's guide to online arguments" when you get answers you don't like, then proceed to moralfag with "Y'ALL MURDERIN' MUH GRANNIES", and somehow not realize why you are getting treated like the dumb faggot you are.
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underrated and absolutely timeless post from all the way back on page 18
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
than 99% of doctors and scientists.
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Citation needed? Anyways, some of us don't do "99% said" logic, that's not really how proof works. Try something like 99% of times X happens in Y fashion and this has been shown 99% of the time by 99 studies that were designed 99% well over 9.9 years. I'd accept lower numbers than 99% and co. if the proof was provided like that. It's not. It's somewhat disjointed and the (brief) history of this science-tific endeavor, from day one, is fraught with confusion and hastily drawn conclusions. 2 years is a long time to freak out about nothing when human life has gone on normally around the globe (with the exception bizarro regulations being alternately implemented and then withdrawn), but it's NOT a long time in terms of record keeping, quality control, and proving numbers that go down to the hundred thousandth decimal. Yes a tiny fraction more people died in a world of 8 billion, but we don't even know how many and they're already officially saying the numbers are bad.

Not so long ago 99% of westerners watched TV. That means it's good. 99% of kids probably like awful nigger music, which also means it's good. 99% of people eat filth and garbage, so that's good too, and 99% of them are considered robots for the creation of obscene wealth which is then transferred disproportionately to that elusive 1% which also makes the rules. 99% of people will shit their pants and cry, rolling over to offer their ass for fucking, when a gun is pointed at their head - the ultimate good?

There's a lot of noise here and none of this is to say catching CVOID is necessarily better than taking a shitty drug and then catching CVOID. I've seen most of the available relevant numbers up to when I lost interest (and even a few since then) and there's still wiggle room and unanswered questions, but besides the absurdity of having steadfast faith in the processes of modernity (decrees, globalist directives, media, corporate industries, government, and the like) there's the question of why do YOU give a fuck?

You're not my family, you likely don't live within 1000, never mind 10, miles of me... so why don't you fuck off? Literally no one you talk to online gives a shit what products you want to shoot up or how your personal risk calculations work. 2 years of sitting in a tower and lecturing people who probably already had CVOID, are you not tired?

Let me help your abstract thinking along: There is no "society" in the sense that you frame it for your argument. People don't even know their neighbors, never mind identify with their "countrymen", tens of millions of whom are actual FOB foreigners. That's the new system. That's what an inhumanly scaled country (and world) looks like, and it was created in part by the same people you're relying on to bolster your argument. You are wrapped up in this juggernaut, and because of this you fail to understand that we're not even arguing about percentage numbers of deaths and similar minutiae, or morals per se, but about the perception of reality as a whole.
 
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Pissmaster said:
I can't wait until march so i can celebrate an entire year of this shitty thread not convincing a single soul to either get or not get the shot that has now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to turn you autistic
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And this is impressive, why? You can get into tl:dr arguments with trannies with their female soul nonsense yet despite it being all bullshit you can't get any of them to give up their stupid. Being obstinate is nothing to celebrate, it is just another trait that makes a lolcow a lolcow

Anyway, best not to beat a dead horse. That's what anti vaxxers do
 
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