Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Kermit Jizz]

I was going write a response, but

The journalists care

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[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

>I never said they were infallible
Then why trust them without question?

Because I trust them a hell of a lot more than conspiracy believing retards like you. These people know a hell of a lot more about medicine and vaccines than you do, despite what you claim.

Come on, you claim conspiracy blogs are super duper reliable. So why isn't Trump president again, with JFK Jr his VP? Conspiracy tards said it was happening and you say they're super reliable, so why hasn't it happened?

>proudly uneducated people who hate education
It amazes me how you can so easily miss the irony of throwing this line towards people who are questioning things rather than just blindly trusting things.

Except you do. You're a right-wing, holocaust denying, uneducated conspiracy believer.

>99% of the world's scientists or doctors are wrong
There are plenty who are skeptical. The inventor of the mRNA vaccine, Robert Malone was banned on Twitter not too long ago for being skeptical.

He was all for them until he found out he wasn't getting money for it. Then he changed his tune. He isn't the inventor of it, either, and hasn't done research on it in many years. He wasn't involved in the development of the covid vaccine or for the use of it in humans. He just appeals to grift you tards now.

>you'd better have some evidence to back up your claims
Why? I'm not the one demanding other people do anything. If people want to shoot themselves up with something sketchy then that's perfectly fine. Do you have evidence that justifies forcing people to take the vaccine?

You're the one claiming to know more about a subject than people who devoted their lives to studying it. You need to provide evidence

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I'm not saying that though.

You sure are. You are anti-vax, so thus, you're saying the vaccine is super duper dangerous and more dangerous than covid itself. Otherwise why be anti-vax?

Are there any new talking points from the Covidians yet? It's the same old for over a year now. Thread is getting stale and in need of new content.

We're still waiting for you uneducated retards to come up with evidence to back up your claims that it's super duper dangerous and killing tens of millions of people

 

[mr.moon1488]

Because I trust them a hell of a lot more than conspiracy believing retards like you. These people know a hell of a lot more about medicine and vaccines than you do, despite what you claim.

Come on, you claim conspiracy blogs are super duper reliable. So why isn't Trump president again, with JFK Jr his VP? Conspiracy tards said it was happening and you say they're super reliable, so why hasn't it happened?


Except you do. You're a right-wing, holocaust denying, uneducated conspiracy believer.

He was all for them until he found out he wasn't getting money for it. Then he changed his tune. He isn't the inventor of it, either, and hasn't done research on it in many years. He wasn't involved in the development of the covid vaccine or for the use of it in humans. He just appeals to grift you tards now.


You're the one claiming to know more about a subject than people who devoted their lives to studying it. You need to provide evidence

>Because I trust them a hell of a lot more than conspiracy believing retards like you
Lol, but you don't have to trust me because I'm not demanding that you do anything...
>Except you do.
I don't. That's why I find your nu-religion beliefs so amusing.
>You're a right-wing, holocaust denying
Yes, though it's debatable how right-wing National Socialism is.
>uneducated conspiracy believer.
Lol and you're an unhinged lunatic.
>He was all for them until he found out he wasn't getting money for it. Then he changed his tune
...
>He isn't the inventor of it, either, and hasn't done research on it in many years
It's amazing how fast someone stops being an expert when they cease to agree with you.
>He wasn't involved in the development of the covid vaccine or for the use of it in humans
He was largely accredited with pioneering the messenger RNA type vaccines.
>You're the one claiming to know more about a subject
lol I'm not though.
>You need to provide evidence
I really don't, though I did provide ample evidence to the points I was arguing. You're asking people to do something against their wills. The burden of proof is entirely on you.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

You sure are. You are anti-vax, so thus, you're saying the vaccine is super duper dangerous and more dangerous than covid itself. Otherwise why be anti-vax?

I'm anti-vax? That's news to me.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I'm anti-vax? That's news to me.

So are you anti-vax? If not, you're arguing anti-vax points.

>Because I trust them a hell of a lot more than conspiracy believing retards like you
Lol, but you don't have to trust me because I'm not demanding that you do anything...

Lol you're the one saying doctors and scientists are wrong and you are right.

>Except you do.
I don't. That's why I find your nu-religion beliefs so amusing.

You sure do.

>You're a right-wing, holocaust denying
Yes, though it's debatable how right-wing National Socialism is.
>uneducated conspiracy believer.
Lol and you're an unhinged lunatic.
>He was all for them until he found out he wasn't getting money for it. Then he changed his tune
...
>He isn't the inventor of it, either, and hasn't done research on it in many years
It's amazing how fast someone stops being an expert when they cease to agree with you.

Are you saying a guy who did research on it 25 years ago knows as much as the people who developed the vaccine 2 years ago that is in use now? Oh, right, Joe Rogan says he knows what he's talking about so you say he does too since you're a good right-wing conspiracy believer. He literally admits himself that is why he's against them, lol.

>He wasn't involved in the development of the covid vaccine or for the use of it in humans
He was largely accredited with pioneering the messenger RNA type vaccines.

Right, but he wasn't involved in the development of the covid vaccine at all, or it in humans. He just did it in rats like 30 years ago. There's been tons of research since. He thought he was gonna get money for them and was for them until he found out he wasn't gonna get cash for it, so now he's upset about that. It's funny how easily you conspiracy nutjobs believe grifters though. Also, not all covid vaccines are mRNA. Come on, you claim to have done your research and claim to know more about this than doctors and scientists and you don't even know that? You nazis are adorable in how retarded you come off.

>You're the one claiming to know more about a subject
lol I'm not though.

You sure are. It's cute how you're denying it though.

>You need to provide evidence
I really don't, though I did provide ample evidence to the points I was arguing. You're asking people to do something against their wills. The burden of proof is entirely on you.

No you didn't. You said because some advertisement was in the newspaper 100 years ago (that didn't even mention doctors, lol) that means doctors now are wrong about everything and you and your conspiracy blogs are right. I am saying since you believe everything conspiracy blogs say, since Trump wasn't reinstated with JFK Jr as his VP, that means conspiracy blogs are now discredited, so you're wrong.

 

[mr.moon1488]

No you didn't. You said because some advertisement was in the newspaper 100 years ago (that didn't even mention doctors, lol) that means doctors now are wrong about everything and you and your conspiracy blogs are right.

Lol this is a lie though. I linked a site that contained a study showing that the vast majority of drugs and treatments don't even pass clinical trials and then explicitly named a drug that was pulled from the market years after passing its clinical trials. The Radium ad was just meant to show you how gullible people who trust the soyientists without question are. I don't really care to elaborate on the rest of this sperg out.

Edit:
At the end of the day, you're still unable to articulate, or even touch on how the burden of proof is on the people you're trying to persuade to do something, which is why you've dodged that topic every time I've brought it up.

 

[valerian]

id rather not until they enforce it here. my doctor has recommended me not to for now because it would be pretty risky for my health conditions but even if i was totally safe in getting one id wait until the very last second. i dont necessarily think its poison or whatever people are saying but im just very careful with what i let into my body and i dont trust this too much yet. that being said im not anti vax nor pro vax either, both sides make good points but both also make bad ones. it is a bit funny to watch all those "anti government anti pharma antifa" people stumble around and tell everyone to get the vax, guess its suddenly okay to support pharma now? no idea. the anti vax side is funny too, especially when theyre presented with facts.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Lol this is a lie though. I linked a site that contained a study showing that the vast majority of drugs and treatments don't even pass clinical trials and then explicitly named a drug that was pulled from the market years after passing its clinical trials. The Radium ad was just meant to show you how gullible people who trust the soyientists without question are. I don't really care to elaborate on the rest of this sperg out.

Yeah, and the fact that only 10-15% pass shows they actually take safety seriously. Unlike the supplements that Alex Jones sells you, those are not regulated at all.

Lol it's cute that a holocaust denier who claims to know more than medical scientists and doctors is calling someone else gullible. Like I said, you claim that somehow an advertisement from 100 years ago that doesn't mentions doctors means that your conspiracy blogs are right and doctors and scientists are wrong... well, then I guess you're saying Trump is now president and JFK Jr is VP since your beloved conspiracy blogs claimed that, too.

It's adorable when uneducated, right-wing conspiracy nutjob simpletons that proudly hate education and educated people like you claim to know more than doctors and scientists.

Edit:
At the end of the day, you're still unable to articulate, or even touch on how the burden of proof is on the people you're trying to persuade to do something, which is why you've dodged that topic every time I've brought it up.

No, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that 99% of the world's doctors and scientists are wrong and your uneducated, simpleton ass is right. You haven't done that. The studies have shown the vaccines are safe, so the onus is on you to prove otherwise.

Then again, you're gullible enough to believe the holocaust is fake because you read it on PatriotBlog1488HH.com and you are a neonazi that claims to be a patriot because you support Republicans, so we know you're a gullible mark

 

[Kermit Jizz]

So are you anti-vax? If not, you're arguing anti-vax points.

I mean maybe some points I agree with them, but I don't know what "anti-vax" really means. I don't believe in any sort of general medical mandates and I don't want to take the covid vaccine. I think there are people who have it in their best interest to take it, and I am up to date on most other vaccines. I don't know what that makes me in your eyes, I don't consider myself part of any group or side on this issue.

I think you spend too much time in the anti-vax community watch, there's a lot more shades of gray on this topic.

 

[redcent]

I was going write a response, but

lmao
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"bottom text"? Incel confirmed. You live in mom's basement too? Unemployment might explain your seething hatred of people working in professional fields.

id rather not until they enforce it here. my doctor has recommended me not to for now because it would be pretty risky for my health conditions but even if i was totally safe in getting one id wait until the very last second. i dont necessarily think its poison or whatever people are saying but im just very careful with what i let into my body and i dont trust this too much yet.

that being sad im not anti vax nor pro vax either, both sides make good points but both also make bad ones. it is a bit funny to watch all those "anti government anti pharma antifa" people stumble around and tell everyone to get the vax, guess its suddenly okay to support pharma now? no idea. the anti vax side is funny too, especially when theyre presented with facts.

Not all of us are left wing though

 

[valerian]

Not all of us are left wing though

yes which is one of the reasons why im not completely disagreeing with pro vaxxers, not an issue with the left wing itself but its just obvious that those people simply repeat these phrases because its The Right Thing To Do even if it contradicts with their anti pharma/government message.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

bottom text"? Incel confirmed. You live in mom's basement too? Unemployment might explain your seething hatred of people working in professional fields.

You forgot to dab at the end, 2/10 put more in more effort.

Seriously though, why are all you posts disjointed? Are you drunk posting too?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

You're not going against shit but health professionals trying to help. You wanna go against say an ambulance dude who's trying to save your life if things go south?

Nobody is trying to save my life. I already had your joke plague (and I had it long before getting the jab).
Spoiler alert: It ain't shit.

What "they" are trying to do is make people participate in a collective action, often against their personal skepticism and right to decide their own health, in order to maybe walk back restrictions they (the government & corporate chimps) put in place, all justified by metaphysical notions of "doing the right thing" and "we're all in this together".

You want to say science and health should never be trusted and your more likely to die listening to them?

Never said that. Strawman harder, please.

Saying someone is wrong is different than saying you know more than they do.

"If the Secretary of Defense says we need to invade Russia, and you disagree with invading fucking Russia, then you must think you know more about how to fight a war than the SecDef."
"I don't want to fight a war with Russia."
"Listen, denier of the experts. There is no way we can win this war against Russia if you keep insisting you know more than the SecDef."
"I never said I know more, I said I disagree that we should be fighting a war with Russia!"
"Why do you think you know more than career military officers?"

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

No I'm not getting the therapeutics for another couple years. I'd like it to have more time to be studied and perfected and I am not of an age or comorbidity cross-section for which it is advisable. And maybe by then they can actually crack the secret of making a vaccine for this sort of illness. That would be pretty great!

 

[Gun Safety]

I would but I'm lazy and scared of needles.

 

[redcent]

You forgot to dab at the end, 2/10 put more in more effort.

Seriously though, why are all you posts disjointed? Are you drunk posting too?

Are they now, hmmm?

Nobody is trying to save my life. I already had your joke plague (and I had it long before getting the jab).
Spoiler alert: It ain't shit.

I'm sure the people in icu say the same thing.

What "they" are trying to do is make people participate in a collective action, often against their personal skepticism and right to decide their own health,

You all have the ability to be skeptical. Information is out there. No guns to people's head.

in order to maybe walk back restrictions they (the government & corporate chimps) put in place, all justified by metaphysical notions of "doing the right thing" and "we're all in this together".

See, when things like this are said...

Never said that. Strawman harder, please.

... Yet you paint all these professionals in such a negative light. You have all this mistrust and disdain. You're asking me to distrust people I may very well have met. Just normal people who drive home love their families and enjoy netflix. Compared to, who? Random people online who claim "it's all a conspiracy? "

You guys paint them as sociopaths. Yet all the sociopaths I've seen in my life come from randos online. The same randos who say grandma should die. Yeah, it's obvious who I'm going to trust. You don't like it, or me criticising what you put up? Maybe you folks should have thought of that before speaking all your edge talk. (not you per se, but folk here). What do you expect?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

My request:

Never said that. Strawman harder, please.

Your reply:

... Yet you paint all these professionals in such a negative light. You have all this mistrust and disdain. You're asking me to distrust people I may very well have met. Just normal people who drive home love their families and enjoy netflix. Compared to, who? Random people online who claim "it's all a conspiracy? "

You guys paint them as sociopaths. Yet all the sociopaths I've seen in my life come from randos online. The same randos who say grandma should die. Yeah, it's obvious who I'm going to trust. You don't like it, or me criticising what you put up? Maybe you folks should have thought of that before speaking all your edge talk. (not you per se, but folk here). What do you expect?

Impressive.
We are reaching levels of strawman I have never thought possible!

 

[Product Intervention]

No way. If I get sick I hope I am a superspreader and can take out a whole county. Fuck people.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

No way. If I get sick I hope I am a superspreader and can take out a whole county. Fuck people.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you'll take out a handful of boomers and fatoids at best...