Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Car Won't Crank]

How cucked.

Yeah some people aren't fighters. When they're in icu they don't want to fight, they just give up and die. Very depressing.

Shouldn't you be asleep aussie? Sleep is good for your health.

 

[redcent]

Shouldn't you be asleep aussie? Sleep is good for your health.

So'a taking a crap

 

[What the shit]

I respect your views on the vaxx and covid but you and HHH need to stop this slapfight.

Dude, HHH vs rightoids slap fights are on of the best things to witness from a distance.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Science is right far more often than not, and I think I will trust the people who study a subject for a living a lot more than people who post on PatriotBlog1488 and get their science info from Boomer Facebook memes and 4chan


So you think that the vaccines are giving us 5G coverage and infecting us with nanobots? Good to know you're a schizo retard then.


Except the unvaccinated are dying in far higher amounts than the vaccinated are. At least according to official numbers. However, to conspiracy theorists, these numbers can't be trusted because they're from hospitals and the government. I am not saying you're a conspiracy theorist, because you don't seem to be, but the others who are.

>Science is right far more often than not

Science, particularly medical science is like a game of Russian roulette with five cylinders loaded with live rounds and one cylinder loaded with a cure.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Dude, HHH vs rightoids slap fights are on of the best things to witness from a distance.

It is even better than ever with Bingo now.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

How cucked.

Cucked?
How is it cucked to directly go against the mainstream position pushed by government, media, big corporations and international organizations?

Yeah some people aren't fighters. When they're in icu they don't want to fight, they just give up and die. Very depressing.

The fuck do the boomers & fatoids who somehow manage to end up in ICU from this mild shit have to do with it?

 

[Kermit Jizz]

The vaxes offer some protection, but on their own they won't fix the wuflu outbreak. The masks & mandates won't fix it on their own either. They have work in tandem together to get a foothold on this outbreak. Everyone needs to put in a concerted effort for this to work.

Can't throw enough rainbows at this. We will never get this under control, it is here to stay forever and we need to accept that and move on. You're chasing an unachievable goal that will require you to trample over countless lives into perpetuity.

Things slow this down like anti vaxxer protests being super spreader events. And once we beat the virus down, we need our governments to pull their socks up and get serious about quarantine because third world countries are going to take a bit to be inoculated and until then they will have mutations happening there.

What is this anti vaxxer cope people like you are obsessed with? This notion that if everyone would just get the jab and wear their shitty cloth mask everything would be over is ridiculous. Vaxxed masked wearers are just as responsible if not more so for spreading coof. It's like these ridiculous incidents of women getting hysterical over people not wearing masks on planes.

Vax and masks mean nothing in terms of eradicating covid, the only way that will ever be accomplished is by a global lockdown, like a proper one not all the pussy footing we did before. And that's just flat out impossible, the infrastructure simply doesn't exist to support that. As I said before, getting rid of covid is a pipe dream.

This is how life is. Now we are in the face of an epidemic we can beat it down. But of course, doing so is too much effort. Heaven help them if back in the 2000s terrorists decided to use Biological warfare. If this is the attitude if the western world to handling an epidemi.you guys would be fucked, and Islam would own your asses.

"Too much effort". You throw that around like the aggressive human rights violations needed to actually stop covid are just some empty concern. To truly eradicate covid would require climbing over a mountain over corpses and keeping the rest of the GLOBAL population quarantined to their houses for months while barely scraping by on rations.

Herein lies the problem. You get people with somewhat reasonable arguments why not to take the vax. Then there are folks who come up with this and I think, "no, they don't have any solid reasons. They're just so terrified of being "obedient" or "controlled" that they'll ignore common sense and become a hindrance to solving a problem." This is the weakness I'm seeing. So much fear of being controlled you guys go head first into the rabbit hole rather than following common sense.

Why is not wanting to be controlled by the psychotic oligarchs in power so ridiculous to you? These demons would literally eat babies to extend their lives and sell the entire country for a nickel if that was the best deal they could get. Why aren't you afraid of evil people having more power over you?

Except the unvaccinated are dying in far higher amounts than the vaccinated are. At least according to official numbers. However, to conspiracy theorists, these numbers can't be trusted because they're from hospitals and the government. I am not saying you're a conspiracy theorist, because you don't seem to be, but the others who are.

Why aren't numbers from the government highly suspect from you? I can accept words directly from a medical worker, but I can't take anything from a politician or journalist seriously.

Science is right far more often than not, and I think I will trust the people who study a subject for a living a lot more than people who post on PatriotBlog1488 and get their science info from Boomer Facebook memes and 4chan

Science isn't about being right or wrong. Science is a process and people end up being right or wrong (or just fucking lying) while using it. It's not science I'm worried about, it's people.

 

[Mr Bunny]

One thing to add Kermit, even if you were to have the entire human population on lockdown, you still wouldn't eradicate it, animal reservoirs are a bitch, I warned you hairless ape that the Rabbit empire will rise.

 

[Alex Krycek]

Science is right far more often than not, and I think I will trust the people who study a subject for a living a lot more than people who post on PatriotBlog1488 and get their science info from Boomer Facebook memes and 4chan


So you think that the vaccines are giving us 5G coverage and infecting us with nanobots? Good to know you're a schizo retard then.


Except the unvaccinated are dying in far higher amounts than the vaccinated are. At least according to official numbers. However, to conspiracy theorists, these numbers can't be trusted because they're from hospitals and the government. I am not saying you're a conspiracy theorist, because you don't seem to be, but the others who are.

Okay but even with that logic, you have to concede that the vaccinated still get it and die from it in rather larger numbers and hence why I said the real issue is that the vax just doesn’t seem all that effective at this time. So what happens next is of course you have people who are going to have a hot take on why this is. Then you have people willing to listen to ridiculous things because of a myriad of reasons. Not all of these people are insane who believe or say these things but there’s a patented mistrust of the Federal Government right now, and when vaccinated people still die of the disease in larger numbers than other vaccines it pushes them to be more mistrustful. As I said, it would be far more prudent of the Pro-Vax crowd to not insult the Anti-Vaxxers and just concede that maybe the Vax isn’t that effective, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. It’s being fine tuned and that’s not exactly an easy task given how quickly the virus mutates. Perhaps it will eventually work just as effective as the Diptheria Vaccine, but for now it’s still in its “beta” stage. I might also add that given how frequently this virus mutates, I don’t know that it is possible to fully vaccinate.

I remember some old Russian guy at Church talking about how Pravda was back in the 80s, the old Soviet Newspaper. He and his family would often say “I wonder what lies they’re going to tell us today”. I see a similar current going on in American politics. Basically both sides accuse the other of being nothing but lies. There’s seemingly no room for civility anymore which is honestly a pity.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

>Science is right far more often than not
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Science, particularly medical science is like a game of Russian roulette with five cylinders loaded with live rounds and one cylinder loaded with a cure.

That's why I said "usually" it's better. Just because some retard snake oil salesmen from 100 years ago did that doesn't mean you uneducated spazes know more about medicine than doctors and medical scientists.

Since you're saying some advertisements from 100 years ago means you know more than doctors and scientists, then I will use some rednecks drinking bleach to cure covid to prove you wrong

Okay but even with that logic, you have to concede that the vaccinated still get it and die from it in rather larger numbers and hence why I said the real issue is that the vax just doesn’t seem all that effective at this time. So what happens next is of course you have people who are going to have a hot take on why this is. Then you have people willing to listen to ridiculous things because of a myriad of reasons. Not all of these people are insane who believe or say these things but there’s a patented mistrust of the Federal Government right now, and when vaccinated people still die of the disease in larger numbers than other vaccines it pushes them to be more mistrustful. As I said, it would be far more prudent of the Pro-Vax crowd to not insult the Anti-Vaxxers and just concede that maybe the Vax isn’t that effective, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. It’s being fine tuned and that’s not exactly an easy task given how quickly the virus mutates. Perhaps it will eventually work just as effective as the Diptheria Vaccine, but for now it’s still in its “beta” stage. I might also add that given how frequently this virus mutates, I don’t know that it is possible to fully vaccinate.

I remember some old Russian guy at Church talking about how Pravda was back in the 80s, the old Soviet Newspaper. He and his family would often say “I wonder what lies they’re going to tell us today”. I see a similar current going on in American politics. Basically both sides accuse the other of being nothing but lies. There’s seemingly no room for civility anymore which is honestly a pity.

They actually don't. Vaccinated people dying from covid is pretty rare. The vast majority of deaths are unvaccinated, despite most people being vaccinated

 

[mr.moon1488]

That's why I said "usually" it's better. Just because some retard snake oil salesmen from 100 years ago did that doesn't mean you uneducated spazes know more about medicine than doctors and medical scientists.

Since you're saying some advertisements from 100 years ago means you know more than doctors and scientists, then I will use some rednecks drinking bleach to cure covid to prove you wrong


They actually don't. Vaccinated people dying from covid is pretty rare. The vast majority of deaths are unvaccinated, despite most people being vaccinated

>That's why I said "usually" it's better
This is objectively false though. Far more has been proven wrong scientifically than what has been proven right. Likewise, the snake oil salesman from 100 years ago selling radioactive water has a lot more parallels with the "experts" you're putting on a pedestal than what you'd care to admit. Namely, they're both primarily motivated by profit.

 

[Akashic Retard]

New COVID cases per capita break new world record high in Israel, where over 90% of the adult population has received 2 vaccine doses, 80% have received 3 doses, and over 500,000 Israelis have received 4 doses—which the government is now pushing for all adults.

From the country once touted as "The World's Vaccine Laboratory"

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

>That's why I said "usually" it's better
This is objectively false though. Far more has been proven wrong scientifically than what has been proven right. Likewise, the snake oil salesman from 100 years ago selling radioactive water has a lot more parallels with the "experts" you're putting on a pedestal than what you'd care to admit. Namely, they're both primarily motivated by profit.

That's not true at all. Where did you get that? And again, an advertisement from 100 years ago doesn't prove that uneducated right-wing retards from Kiwi Farms know more about a virus and vaccine than doctors and medical scientists. That's gotta be one of the most retarded things you ever said, and that's impressive considering you're a holocaust denier

So I guess since you know more than experts, you demand to fly planes when you're on an airplane. After all, sometimes planes crash. Or you don't go to the doctor since you know way more than they do about medicine.

 

[Akashic Retard]

know more about a virus and vaccine than doctors and medical scientists.

How many times are you going to repeat this fallacious crap? This entire post is just one big appeal to authority.
Secondarily, why are you here haphazardly relaying medical information that you are not qualified to relay, explain, or interpret? Repost hysterical epidemiologist tweets, post your credentials, or be quiet.

 

[Wood]

So I guess since you know more than experts, you demand to fly planes when you're on an airplane. After all, sometimes planes crash. Or you don't go to the doctor since you know way more than they do about medicine.

At least we know how many planes crash

 

[mr.moon1488]

That's not true at all. Where did you get that? And again, an advertisement from 100 years ago doesn't prove that uneducated right-wing retards from Kiwi Farms know more about a virus and vaccine than doctors and medical scientists.

So I guess since you know more than experts, you demand to fly planes when you're on an airplane. After all, sometimes planes crash. Or you don't go to the doctor since you know way more than they do about medicine.

>That's not true at all. Where did you get that?
Have you literally never opened a history book? Galen?
>know more about a virus and vaccine than doctors and medical scientists
No one is arguing that though. They're arguing that they're not infallible, and are open to being questioned.
>So I guess since you know more than experts, you demand to fly planes when you're on an airplane
No, but I also don't fly with certain airlines because they're known to not follow proper safety precautions.

 

[Wünderkind]

with vax passport and most restrictions now gone from my area i've now demoted my vaccine priority from "probably not" to "never"

it feels good not to be a big pharma guinea pig AND have all my rights back

 

[Kermit Jizz]

retards from Kiwi Farms know more about a virus and vaccine than doctors and medical scientists

You say this a lot, but I don't think anyone here claims to know more than doctors. Personally speaking it's just that I don't trust the words of doctors filtered through politicians and journalists, especially when a lot of the doctors should no be commenting on covid in the first place.

Or you don't go to the doctor since you know way more than they do about medicine.

I have been able to diagnose myself before doctors have in some instances, and that's after weeks of visits. Technical professionals are just as retarded as then gen population, and I say that as a technical professional.

 

[Pissmaster]

That's not true at all.

Look at this science denier

 

[Mr Bunny]

>That's not true at all. Where did you get that?
Have you literally never opened a history book? Galen?

To be fair, history doesn't really record the failures that often. Edison himself in his biography you'll find him talking about how he didn't fail, instead, he found a thousand ways on how something didn't work. We only know this because Edison was one of the successful ones, but he wasn't the only one trying to do what he was doing, no words were written down for those guys.