Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Syaoran Li]

Whatever the outcome of the anime ending will be, I'm sure it will be a spectacularly hilarious shitstorm either way.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I feel like AoTs popularity was more bandwagoning than anything. It was a pretty boring anime

Season 1 was just meh with many of the issues being the way Isayama wanted the anime team to make changes (like the whole stupid one where Eren whines about not turning into a Titan when the final fight happened). But it would’ve been for the better if the anime didn’t get as popular as it did since that made Isayama change the entire story due to its popularity

 

[Kosher Dill]

Also you should all watch Char's Counter Attack

I've heard that said many a time, but I don't know anything about Gundam. Can you just pick up the movie and watch, or do you have to have already watched however many seasons of the anime first?

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Seeing all the unironic (anime only) Eren simps just reminds me of this one guy i saw in random communities

He went from commie fag degenerate to born again tradcath, and after his love of hentai got him kicked out of the latter he went full Eren fascist larper, complete with the edgyfag profile pic, also i think he was 14 to 16 and he got defensive anytime someone inferred he was a kid

I havent seen the tard in a while but when the full ending dropped and he was still sporting the edgy Eren larp pfp i just had a hearty laugh

 

[Random Internet Person]

But it would’ve been for the better if the anime didn’t get as popular as it did since that made Isayama change the entire story due to its popularity

Has that ever happened before in Japanese enterrtainment?

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

I've heard that said many a time, but I don't know anything about Gundam. Can you just pick up the movie and watch, or do you have to have already watched however many seasons of the anime first?

Ideally you would have seen the original Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam, ZZ inexplicably has nothing to do with it, but it works fine as a standalone movie too. Char's Counter Attack was actually my introduction to the main UC. If you have a vague idea of who Char and Amuro are it's still very enjoyable and you can figure a lot out through context.

 

[Neo-Liberal Bugman]

Are their better stories that scratch a similar itch to AoT but without its plot weirdness?

 

[Protistology]

Watch 8th MS Team for a taste before you commit to the series.

All the background you need: In the near future, mankind has colonized Earth's Lagrange points (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_point). One of the colonies, Zeon, declares independence from Earth and the other colonies and launches a blitzkrieg first strike with nuclear missiles and mass drivers dropped from orbit. In a week, half of humanity is dead and most of the Australia land mass is underwater. WMDs are quickly banned by both sides and conventional war begins with the Zeon invasion of Earth.

There, you're all caught up.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Has that ever happened before in Japanese enterrtainment?

Wasn’t it fairly common for stories to get derailed by editors demanding the mangaka to continue them past the logical stopping point because they were too financially successful?

If you mean the authors themselves choosing to alter the course of the story due to fan reception, I’m 100% certain that’s happened before, but unless they came out and said it, it would be very difficult to prove.

 

[UzumakiLeaf]

I was thinking about getting into Attack on Titan, but I think I will just stick to this and pretend this is it. This is all there is to Attack on Titan and save myself the heartbreak

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Has that ever happened before in Japanese enterrtainment?

Yugioh Technically, the first parts of the original story were Monster of the Week with random games. Then Duel Monsters became super popular after it was introduced the story was retooled to focus on it.

(For the better because there is only so much "Random Game Evil Yugi makes up..that the antagonist attempts to cheat and and gets bit in the ass" a series can do)

 

[Protistology]

Wasn’t it fairly common for stories to get derailed by editors demanding the mangaka to continue them past the logical stopping point because they were too financially successful?

If you mean the authors themselves choosing to alter the course of the story due to fan reception, I’m 100% certain that’s happened before, but unless they came out and said it, it would be very difficult to prove.

Dragonball Z and Death Note famously.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Yugioh Technically, the first parts of the original story were Monster of the Week with random games. Then Duel Monsters became super popular after it was introduced the story was retooled to focus on it.

(For the better because there is only so much "Random Game Evil Yugi makes up..that the antagonist attempts to cheat and and gets bit in the ass" a series can do)

The best part is that the original Yugioh actually ended where it was supposed to.

The Yugioh more commonly known about only came about afterwards because of a fuckton of calls asking if the card game Kaiba and Yugi played was real, and if they could play it.

Kazuki Takahashi, who absolutely fucking loves games and was surprised so many people liked the Magic: The Gathering knock-off he had made, decided to continue the series, and when eventually Konami called him up to try, and make Duel Monsters into a real game, he naturally jumped at the chance, and the rest is history.

He did eventually get tired of writing the series, and left it after 5ds, and he's not exactly happy with how the franchise is now, but considering it all, I think his case is one of the very few continuing a series past its original endpoint was actually a good thing

 

[MirrorNoir]

I've heard that said many a time, but I don't know anything about Gundam. Can you just pick up the movie and watch, or do you have to have already watched however many seasons of the anime first?

The first Gundam Series (MSG) is available in compilation movie format and is considered the "best" way to watch them, though they rush a lot of shit and cut out some character stuff and some villain deaths. Though it makes up for it, by doing the final battle as it was intended to be before an abrupt cancelation caused the final battle arc to be super rushed.

Zeta Gundam is next but you can skip it because Char gets a heel-face turn that doesn't mesh with the plot of Char's Counterattack as a key part of Char's arc in Zeta is him basically growing disillusioned with the politics of the colonies and Zeon and Earth, hiding in plain sight without his mask to mentor the main hero, and basically telling the people demanding that he, as the lost prince of Zeon, man the fuck up and become a major leader, to fuck off due to him realizing that the situation is fucked and can't be fixed and the people demanding he fix things just want to use him as a vessel to do the shit THEY want him to do.

Finally, there is Gundam Origin, which is a modern day Gundam that tells Char's origin and the Zeon side of the war prior to the start of Mobile Suit Gundam series. It's notable in that it makes Char more evil than usual due to the misaimed fandom he acquired and not explicitly answering key backstory questions involving how Char's dad died as far as going the route of Char's father being a war obsessed figure and implying that the Zabis were innocent in causing his death after all.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The best part is that the original Yugioh actually ended where it was supposed to.

The Yugioh more commonly known about only came about afterwards because of a fuckton of calls asking if the card game Kaiba and Yugi played was real, and if they could play it.

Kazuki Takahashi, who absolutely fucking loves games and was surprised so many people liked the Magic: The Gathering knock-off he had made, decided to continue the series, and when eventually Konami called him up to try, and make Duel Monsters into a real game, he naturally jumped at the chance, and the rest is history.

He did eventually get tired of writing the series, and left it after 5ds, and he's not exactly happy with how the franchise is now, but considering it all, I think his case is one of the very few continuing a series past its original endpoint was actually a good thing

It also sounds like it was one of the times where selling out was a good thing also.

Wasn’t it fairly common for stories to get derailed by editors demanding the mangaka to continue them past the logical stopping point because they were too financially successful?

Wasn’t that what happened to Naruto?

 

[Secret Asshole]

Has that ever happened before in Japanese enterrtainment?

Wasn’t it fairly common for stories to get derailed by editors demanding the mangaka to continue them past the logical stopping point because they were too financially successful?

If you mean the authors themselves choosing to alter the course of the story due to fan reception, I’m 100% certain that’s happened before, but unless they came out and said it, it would be very difficult to prove.

For fan reception? Hrm, I can't really think. I remember a few examples where stories that were going to end or have a sadder ending twist upwards to avoid it when they got popular.

Mangaka sabotaging a popular series or sabotaging manga because of editorial demands happens more frequently than one might think. I know High School DxD went from very very Ecchi to basically a Shonen because the editors didn't want any sex and the writer basically went 'fuck it' and switched to a majorly shonen story because his editors wouldn't let the MC fuck any of the girls, even in a harem. Which is actually a huge problem IMO in a lot of anime/series. Where you basically have very sterile sexualized situations (ironic). You might have sexualized figures, but a lot of the time they never actually have sex until the end or very close to the end. Even in highly ecchi stuff too. For all the complaining a lot of people do about 'sexualized' women in these series, there's typically very little fucking going on.

Now that I'm done with that tangent, I think Food Wars! Was a victim of editorial interference and generally suffered at the end because the writer who did the food descriptions went on maternity leave. It gets very weird and stupid at the end with food superpowers and just in general dumb bullshit with self-sabotage.

But yes, creators sabotaging their own works due to editors is not uncommon in Japan.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

The best part is that the original Yugioh actually ended where it was supposed to.

The Yugioh more commonly known about only came about afterwards because of a fuckton of calls asking if the card game Kaiba and Yugi played was real, and if they could play it.

Kazuki Takahashi, who absolutely fucking loves games and was surprised so many people liked the Magic: The Gathering knock-off he had made, decided to continue the series, and when eventually Konami called him up to try, and make Duel Monsters into a real game, he naturally jumped at the chance, and the rest is history.

He did eventually get tired of writing the series, and left it after 5ds, and he's not exactly happy with how the franchise is now, but considering it all, I think his case is one of the very few continuing a series past its original endpoint was actually a good thing

Oh I didn't know that was supposed to be the ending.

Okay Takashi is better than I gave him credit for, he knew exactly how far the gimmick could go and bailed before it got too dull.

 

[Rezza]

Man, I wish I knew of this thread back when the shitshow that was the ending happened. It was a glorious moment for it proved just how much of a hack Isayama actually was.

Years ago, when I started reading this manga right before the anime started, I immediately felt something off about the story. It was the moment when Eren got put on a trial that I finally realized what it was, the author is a naive person, and someone narcissistic. If you looked at it with that in mind, everything then makes sense, because everything that happened, no matter how stupid and ridiculous it was, to Isayama's mind that was genius. I mean if you looked at the interview with him, you can see why he was rejected over and over again, because he didn't want to admit that his art is shit. He had a very interesting premise, but that itself wasn't something entirely unique, and you see just how good he was at developing it. Someone here was right, AoT wouldn't be as successful if not for the Zombi Craze people had years ago, it's nothing but a fluke.

I can't wait to see the reaction of the Anime-only when the last season dropped, especially the ending. I really hoped they didn't change the ending or made something new just so people can actually see just how bad this series and Isayama actually is.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Man, I wish I knew of this thread back when the shitshow that was the ending happened. It was a glorious moment for it proved just how much of a hack Isayama actually was.

Years ago, when I started reading this manga right before the anime started, I immediately felt something off about the story. It was the moment when Eren got put on a trial that I finally realized what it was, the author is a naive person, and someone narcissistic. If you looked at it with that in mind, everything then makes sense, because everything that happened, no matter how stupid and ridiculous it was, to Isayama's mind that was genius. I mean if you looked at the interview with him, you can see why he was rejected over and over again, because he didn't want to admit that his art is shit. He had a very interesting premise, but that itself wasn't something entirely unique, and you see just how good he was at developing it. Someone here was right, AoT wouldn't be as successful if not for the Zombi Craze people had years ago, it's nothing but a fluke.

I can't wait to see the reaction of the Anime-only when the last season dropped, especially the ending. I really hoped they didn't change the ending or made something new just so people can actually see just how bad this series and Isayama actually is.

I didn’t even read the manga (dropped the anime halfway through season 3) and following the shitshow as the manga was ending was easily one of the most entertaining experiences I’ve had on this here fruit forum.

 

[Random Internet Person]

. It was a glorious moment for it proved just how much of a hack Isayama actually was.

I don't think anyone ever thought Isayama was the next big thing, let alone a genius like Hirohiko Araki or Eiichiro Oda or Akira Toriyama. He just manged to strike gold with his first big entry into the industry.

I mean if you looked at the interview with him, you can see why he was rejected over and over again, because he didn't want to admit that his art is shit.

I just remeber Isayama saying that Weekly Shonen Jump wanted him to change the style for their magazine, but Isayama wasn't having that.

Man, I wish I knew of this thread back when the shitshow that was the ending happened.

I wish I was learning of this thread as I was reading it. Maybe I could have seen what people here would have said over the "glory days".